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    #32
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    boobookitty wrote: »
    LMAO. The film is absolutely horrible. It differs from the book in so many ways. Actors can't act and character descriptions are totally off.
    .
    Cinema Paradiso? It's regarded as a cinematic classic.


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    #33
    boobookitty
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    K4t wrote: »
    Cinema Paradiso? It's regarded as a cinematic classic.

    Sorry, I was referring to " Philly.. here I come... or will I?"

    Those notes sound very tempting. I must do that, thanks heywhatever.

    I'm striving for a B1/A2 in Engrish.


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    #34
    K4t
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    boobookitty wrote: »
    Sorry, I was referring to " Philly.. here I come... or will I?"

    Those notes sound very tempting. I must do that, thanks heywhatever.

    I'm striving for a B1/A2 in Engrish.
    Eh good luck with that :pac: :D


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    #35
    boobookitty
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    How is everyone finding the quotes?

    We got so many, we practically learnt the book off by heart.


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    #36
    phasers
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    bythewoods wrote: »

    According to my new English teacher, "How Many Miles to Babylon?" is off the syllabus this year?
    (Check that one out phasers)

    From what I've checked out, your teacher is right. Well, it looks like I have to find myself a new text to study... I'll probably do curious incident myself because I've already read it and it seems simple enough. God I hate my teacher. This is just like her.


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    #37
    K4t
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    boobookitty wrote: »
    How is everyone finding the quotes?

    We got so many, we practically learnt the book off by heart.
    We weren't told to learn quotes for the comparative :confused:

    Just MacBeth and Poetry require quotes in the answers as far as I know.


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    #38
    xOxSinéadxOx
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    I haven't learnt any quotes for anything yet, I'm probably going to fail :(


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    #39
    SarcasticFairy
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    An Fhile wrote: »
    One of the most influential books in the English language ;)

    Still a load of s**t.

    I'm doing Philadelphia, Here I Come, My Oedipus Complex and A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. A Portrait is totally random when you put it with the other two books, but apparently we needed a "hard" book to impress the examiners because teh other two are too easy. :confused: I would have preferred to do three reasonable books rather than try and understand that heap of crap. But whatever.


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    #40
    smndly
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    SarcasticFairy wrote: »
    Still a load of s**t.

    I'm doing Philadelphia, Here I Come, My Oedipus Complex and A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. A Portrait is totally random when you put it with the other two books, but apparently we needed a "hard" book to impress the examiners because teh other two are too easy. :confused: I would have preferred to do three reasonable books rather than try and understand that heap of crap. But whatever.

    AHH Portrait is an amazing book!!! Its probably been ruined for you by over-analysis for the leaving but as a stand alone book for pleasure I think it's fantastic.


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    #41
    lorr3
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    weve got..
    cinema paridso
    curious incident
    philadelphia

    pretty ok really! not over excited about curious incident tho, love cinema paradiso!!!:)
    some one asked whether philadelphia can be done as teh single text would reccomend gettin that checked out????? pretty dodge to chance it!!!!


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    #42
    Aisling(",)
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    my films been changed from the truman show to cinema paridiso

    why is there an italian film in my eglish course?:confused:


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    #43
    Aisling(",)
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    my films been changed from the truman show to cinema paridiso

    why is there an italian film in my eglish course?:confused:


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    #44
    Fad
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    Aisling(",) wrote: »
    my films been changed from the truman show to cinema paridiso

    why is there an italian film in my eglish course?:confused:

    More importantly, how can anyone enjoy that film, I read something in a supplement in the Irish Times, with politicians listing all their favourite music and films, and at least half said Cinema Paradiso.

    I seriously found it to be one of the most tediously boring films I have ever had the misfortune of watching, the unpleasantness accentuated by the fact that my failing eyesight prevents me from reading the subtitles, the first time we watched it. The second time, I could read them all, and was like WHY THE FÚCK AM I READING THIS :mad:


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    #45
    ironictoaster
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    Aisling(",) wrote: »
    my films been changed from the truman show to cinema paridiso

    why is there an italian film in my eglish course?:confused:

    That's a shame. Truman Show is a great film.


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    #46
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    Theres one thing I don't understand: Why on earth is Cinema Paradiso on an English course? I thought the English course was the study of the English Language; why would we study an Italian film in an English class? Doesn't make sense to me at all. Next we'll be studying French in Maths class.

    Oh and P.S. Im doing:

    Cinema Paradiso,
    The Curious Incident etc etc.
    Philidelphia! Here I come

    Anyone else think The Curious Incident... Is a rubbish book?


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    #47
    Fad
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    -JammyDodger- wrote: »
    Next we'll be studying French in Maths class.

    SSSSSSHHHHHHHH


    The DOE has ears everywhere!


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    #48
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    Wouldn't suprise me!

    It's ridiculous though, whoever chose the comparative choices this year really doesn't understand that they're are different languages, and you can't just throw an Italian film in an English studies class!


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    #49
    implausible
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    -JammyDodger- wrote: »
    Wouldn't suprise me!

    It's ridiculous though, whoever chose the comparative choices this year really doesn't understand that they're are different languages, and you can't just throw an Italian film in an English studies class!

    I think they might have noticed that it was in Italian! You are studying the film, as a piece of literature, not the language. Surely you don't think that you have to quote huge chunks of Italian dialogue from the film in your essay? At the end of the day, all you have to do is compare it with 2 other texts using your 3 modes. The fact that an element of the film is a bit different (dialogue in Italian) makes it easier to compare!


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    #50
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    deemark wrote: »
    I think they might have noticed that it was in Italian! You are studying the film, as a piece of literature, not the language. Surely you don't think that you have to quote huge chunks of Italian dialogue from the film in your essay? At the end of the day, all you have to do is compare it with 2 other texts using your 3 modes. The fact that an element of the film is a bit different (dialogue in Italian) makes it easier to compare!

    That would be fair enough if it were a literature or media studies etc. class, but it's an English class! You couldn't justify studying a German film in French class could you? At the end of the day the class is called English, it's contents should technically be confined to the bounds of the English language. It's as simple as that.


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    #51
    smndly
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    -JammyDodger- wrote: »
    That would be fair enough if it were a literature or media studies etc. class, but it's an English class! You couldn't justify studying a German film in French class could you? At the end of the day the class is called English, it's contents should technically be confined to the bounds of the English language. It's as simple as that.

    Well looking into the mind and inner turmoil of Macbeth is more philosophical than language related yet we do that in english. We also look at politics and war in michael longly's poetry. English is a study of literature and opinion more so than language.


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    #52
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    smndly wrote: »
    Well looking into the mind and inner turmoil of Macbeth is more philosophical than language related yet we do that in english. We also look at politics and war in michael longly's poetry. English is a study of literature and opinion more so than language.

    Yah I guess that's true enough; But they're are still so many great films in the English language out there (Not saying Cinema Paradiso is a bad film), I don't understand why they felt obliged to put a film spoken in a different language on the course. Could be worse I suppose!


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    #53
    smndly
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    -JammyDodger- wrote: »
    Yah I guess that's true enough; But they're are still so many great films in the English language out there (Not saying Cinema Paradiso is a bad film), I don't understand why they felt obliged to put a film spoken in a different language on the course. Could be worse I suppose!

    I don't think they felt obliged; its a fantastic film and they decided it fits in with a lot of the other texts. Its the teachers who choose anyway so blame them if your unhappy!!


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    #54
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    smndly wrote: »
    I don't think they felt obliged; its a fantastic film and they decided it fits in with a lot of the other texts. Its the teachers who choose anyway so blame them if your unhappy!!

    I know it's a fantastic film! But I'm just saying that they're are undoubtedly better films out there told through the English language that may fit just as well with the other texts as Cinema Paradiso does.

    It just doesn't make sense to be studying something in another language in an English class. And on your other point, it doesn't matter how philisophical Macbeth or Longleys poems are, they're still told through the medium of the English language: which is what English class is about.


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    #55
    marshmallow
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    irishmonkey wrote: »
    We're doing "Inside I'm Dacing", "A Curious Incident(...)", and "Philadelphia, Here I Come"

    +1 here

    Haven't done Philadelphia yet though.


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    #56
    K4t
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    Fad wrote: »
    More importantly, how can anyone enjoy that film, I read something in a supplement in the Irish Times, with politicians listing all their favourite music and films, and at least half said Cinema Paradiso.

    I seriously found it to be one of the most tediously boring films I have ever had the misfortune of watching, the unpleasantness accentuated by the fact that my failing eyesight prevents me from reading the subtitles, the first time we watched it. The second time, I could read them all, and was like WHY THE FÚCK AM I READING THIS :mad:
    And they always tell the truth? 50% said they rated Cinema Paradiso among their favourite films of all time. I'd say at least 50% of them lied.

    I haven't seen the film yet but it doesn't bode well from the comments on here!


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    #57
    Piste
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    I liked it! Saw it in italian class in 4th year, it's very sad!


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    #58
    ironictoaster
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    -JammyDodger- wrote: »
    Anyone else think The Curious Incident... Is a rubbish book?

    That book drove me up the wall.

    And I said
    Then he said
    So I said

    grrr


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    #59
    russelljames
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    I'm Doing

    Bookseller of Kabul -Asne Sierstad
    The Lonesome West- Martin McDonagh
    The Truman Show

    must be the only person doing the bookseller as a text, :|


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    #60
    Mr Maroon
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    JSK 252 wrote: »
    Cinema Paradiso - Giuseppe Torratore
    Philadelphia Here I Come - Brian Friel
    The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night time - Mark Haddon
    They're the 3 I'm doing too. I'd read The Curious Incident before anyway and the other 2 are quite good. I actually enjoyed them.


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    #61
    GERMAN ROCKS
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    we are doing
    old school
    curious incident
    strictly ballroom


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