Budget 2009

Jip · 14-10-2008 6:50pm

Here's the details of the cycle to work scheme from www.budget.gov.ie

Cycle to work scheme
From 1 January 2009, the provision of bicycles and associated safety equipment by employers to employees who agree to use the bicycles to cycle to work will be treated as a tax exempt benefit-in-kind. The exemption may only apply once in any five year period in respect of any employee. There will be a limit on the value of such purchases of €1,000 for each employee. The scheme may also be implemented via salary sacrifice arrangements, whereby an employee agrees to forego part of his/her salary to cover the costs associated with the purchase of the bicycle and associated safety equipment. Where such salary sacrifice arrangements are implemented, they must be completed over a maximum period of twelve months.

The estimated cost of this scheme is €0.2 million in 2009 and €0.4 million in a full year.

PaddyofNine · 14-10-2008 6:51pm

So had anyone any reports of massive queues at filling stations yet?

Jip · 14-10-2008 6:54pm

Yip, me, on this thread or the one in economics, at the Texaco in Ballycoolin at 4:45 this evening, was backed out onto the main road.

Vanbis · 14-10-2008 7:03pm

This country is run by a bunch of muppetts that think they know it all. They make promise after promise then the throw up prices everywhere saying that we the people will understand because of the enconmic issues at the moment ( bo**ox to that ) excuse after excuse. I can't believe A&E has gone up by €34.00 to €100.00. The increase on Petrol is another joke as it only came down in price on Monday and oil has dropped by 40% or so and they still charge crazy prices and increase on tax yet again for cars.

I forone will be telling any FF that knocks my door to F**k Off in future and will be voting for Sinn Fein as i have year after year.

Jip · 14-10-2008 7:09pm

Vanbis wrote: »

I forone will be telling any FF that knocks my door to F**k Off in future and will be voting for Sinn Fein as i have year after year.

Yeah, cause they have great economic policies. Oh wait.....

445279.ie · 14-10-2008 7:25pm

PaddyofNine wrote: »

So had anyone any reports of massive queues at filling stations yet?

Yeah, big queue at the Discount Fuels outside Newcastle West. Cheap petrol @ 114.8

Thank God for my diesal car now

Steve · 14-10-2008 7:36pm

Just to clear up the myth that petrol is going up 8c/litre, it's not.

The duty is going up 8c and since we like double taxation here, it's actually 8c+VAT = 9.7c/litre. Nice of the sneakey minister to highlight that wasn't it.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I know we're all depressed enough...:(

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 7:37pm

Jip wrote: »

Yeah, cause they have great economic policies. Oh wait.....

lol X2 .. I'm sure Sinn Feins stance on corporation tax will really bring the high fliers to Ireland :rolleyes:

......Anyways.........

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 7:38pm

SteveC wrote: »

Just to clear up the myth that petrol is going up 8c/litre, it's not.

The duty is going up 8c and since we like double taxation here, it's actually 8c+VAT = 9.7c/litre. Nice of the sneakey minister to highlight that wasn't it.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I know we're all depressed enough...:(

Is that fact??

kenco · 14-10-2008 7:41pm

Does anyone know yet if the parking levy is applied to civil servents, guards, etc??

.Longshanks. · 14-10-2008 7:42pm

SteveC wrote: »

Just to clear up the myth that petrol is going up 8c/litre, it's not.

The duty is going up 8c and since we like double taxation here, it's actually 8c+VAT = 9.7c/litre. Nice of the sneakey minister to highlight that wasn't it.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I know we're all depressed enough...:(

Nearly sure that the 8c increase in inclusive of VAT. Will stand corrected thou...

Hotwheels · 14-10-2008 7:43pm

Not so good for petrol owners...I filled up today in Corrib Oil, diesel was 120.9

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 7:45pm

kenco wrote: »

Does anyone know yet if the parking levy is applied to civil servents, guards, etc??

I wonder how they'll enforce this say my employer has parking and I get the bus or people that don't have cars how will they know if you drive to work or not? Or does the employer get hit with the 200euro levy.

kenco · 14-10-2008 7:48pm

I think this is going to be a huge problem to enforce. How will they know how many spots there are? How will they know who uses which. What is defined as Urban? Is Sandyford Urban??

If they dont apply this to all parking spots (inc civil service) then it will be ignored by the private sector

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 7:48pm

eringobragh wrote: »

I wonder how they'll enforce this say my employer has parking and I get the bus or people that don't have cars how will they know if you drive to work or not? Or does the employer get hit with the 200euro levy.

Never mind!

Levy on car parking facilities provided to employees by their employers

A flat rate levy of €200 per annum will be charged on employees whose employer provides them with car parking facilities. The levy will be confined to employer provided car parking facilities situated in the main urban centres.

The estimated yield from this measure is €5 million in 2009 and €10 million in a full year.

Steve · 14-10-2008 7:50pm

eringobragh wrote: »

Is that fact??

It's a fact that we pay VAT on duty, yes. Same as we pay VAT on VRT. Even the tax is taxed here.

Longshanks100 wrote: »

Nearly sure that the 8c increase in inclusive of VAT. Will stand corrected thou...

It's possible I've got it wrong, I read it as an 8c increase on duty.

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 7:52pm

SteveC wrote: »

Just to clear up the myth that petrol is going up 8c/litre, it's not.

The duty is going up 8c and since we like double taxation here, it's actually 8c+VAT = 9.7c/litre. Nice of the sneakey minister to highlight that wasn't it.:rolleyes:

Sorry, I know we're all depressed enough...:(

Nope its 8c all in

Increase in Mineral Oil Tax on Petrol

The mineral oil tax on petrol will be increased by 8 cent per litre (including VAT) with effect from midnight on 14 October 2008.

This measure is estimated to yield €22 million in 2008, and €166 million in 2009.

Source: http://www.budget.gov.ie/2009/budgetsummary09.html

Steve · 14-10-2008 7:54pm

eringobragh wrote: »

Nope its 8c all in

Source: http://www.budget.gov.ie/2009/budgetsummary09.html

oops.

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 7:56pm

SteveC wrote: »

oops.

No probs, Putting the fear of god into all of us

BoardsRanger · 14-10-2008 8:05pm

quote from Hammertime

Ok calm down

8c is obviously a ****ing joke but its going to be offset by the Wednesday night decreases which will be in the region of 5c to 8c so in effect there should not be any increases at all, we will just lose the 112.9 price point that would have hit this weekend.

There is no need to panic buy today, sites SHOULD NOT put their price up at midnight, if they do they are scumbags who are robbing you, all fuel delivered to sites today is at the old price and should be sold out at the current price without any increases, so if you see a garage with a 8c incease in the morning I would suggest never going back to them again, its the only way to sort these idiots out as they are giving the fuel retailers such a bad name.

For example I am currently at 119.9 unl, I have enough fuel to last until Thursday morning at this price as I bought it before the budget increase, so I am gettign a full delivery at 5am thursday morning which will be coming to me with the Wed night wholesale reductions applied, so therefore on thursday I can still sell it for the 119.9 as the 7c or so price reduction will in effect cancel out the budget increase.

So don't be panicing, and don't buy at an inflated price between now and Friday.

Hope this helps.

ok so petrol prices might not rise as much as 8c, but what are the chances of the petrol stations using this stealthily as an excuse to leave diesel prices the same! quite high i would guess.

L-M · 14-10-2008 8:23pm

116.9

Ques are getting bigger, now back to the roundabout.

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 8:30pm

Limerick-man wrote: »

116.9

Ques are getting bigger, now back to the roundabout.

LOL panic stations I took Mike65s advice and filled up last night.

L-M · 14-10-2008 8:32pm

I think i wasted more petrol in the queues than if i had bought tomorrow haha:p

-Chris- · 14-10-2008 8:44pm

Every station I passed had loads of cars in it, the local Tesco station had a 50 car queue (seriously) - they were backed out onto the road and around the roundabout blocking all other traffic who were just trying to get home...

Heroditas · 14-10-2008 8:47pm

eringobragh wrote: »

Never mind!

Is it on ALL employees though? It's utterly ridiculous. This sounds very wishy washy and is the one bit of the budget I am utterly disgusted with. In my workplace we have a couple of people who commute from Navan and leave kids off at childcare. Does the govt suggest they use the bus and bring the kid on it?
All for a measly €10m too. They could raise that by increasing the street parking rates in the city centres. :rolleyes:

L1011 · 14-10-2008 9:03pm

eringobragh wrote: »

LOL panic stations I took Mike65s advice and filled up last night.

So did I, but a titchy tank doesn't help things... (35l). Was a queue back on to the N7 slip for Topaz Kill today!

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 9:06pm

Heroditas wrote: »

Is it on ALL employees though? It's utterly ridiculous. This sounds very wishy washy and is the one bit of the budget I am utterly disgusted with. In my workplace we have a couple of people who commute from Navan and leave kids off at childcare. Does the govt suggest they use the bus and bring the kid on it?
All for a measly €10m too. They could raise that by increasing the street parking rates in the city centres. :rolleyes:

Even more interested to see how they'll enforce this?

MYOB wrote: »

So did I, but a titchy tank doesn't help things... (35l). Was a queue back on to the N7 slip for Topaz Kill today!

That sucks! know how that feels (had a 40L tank before) Sure I put 38 litres in the car last night lol, I... Gotta love the 60Litre tanks

galwaytt · 14-10-2008 9:18pm

Here's a thought, the biggest providers of company parking in urban areas in Galway are:

1. Revenue Commissioners - currently pays for staff to park in the RADISSON HOTEL. :mad: :mad: You read that correctly. This means they both provide and pay for, parking, for employees. Who's going to police the ........er, police ??

2. Galway County Council - huge car park, excluded from public, smack bang in the middle of the city.

3. Galway City Council - car park within walking distance of Eyre Square.

4. NUIG - a college with currently........15k students. How many staff involved, not sure, but, say, 2000 ? All within walking distance of city centre.

Practice what you preach, that's what I say. And I'll be writing to the bodies above to see what they're going to do about it.

Vegeta · 14-10-2008 9:24pm

Levy on car parking facilities provided to employees by their employers

A flat rate levy of €200 per annum will be charged on employees whose employer provides them with car parking facilities. The levy will be confined to employer provided car parking facilities situated in the main urban centres.

The estimated yield from this measure is €5 million in 2009 and €10 million in a full year.

Anyone know what the main urban centres are? I like the way they didn't say cities as that is pretty well defined already

What a load of bollox. How they will police this is anyones guess

RobAMerc · 14-10-2008 9:29pm

2 things in an Irish budget are certain

The tax payer gets f*cked
The motorist gets tripple f*cked with nuts on top

This has always been the ****tiest country to be a motorist in - its rapidly becoming the ****tiest country to live in too

Budget 2009

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