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Are tractors and trailers allowed on a motorway?

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  • 09-10-2008 6:57pm
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    120_Minutes
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    using the new M6 between moate and athlone last night, and just after the glenwood bridge overtook a large badly illuminated tractor towing a trailer full of hay. pissed me off no end. i was doing 120 and luckily noticed a couple of reflectors in the distance and managed to avoid...but others may not have been so lucky.

    am i right in thinking that this guy was breaking a handful of laws? it was about 9 pm and dark, and he could have caused an accident he was so poorly lit. the gardai need to nip this in the bud or else there'll be a load of cheeky farmers using the motorway as a "short cut"

    some days i'd love to be a cop, chancers like this need to be made an example of.


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    Bogger77
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    120_Minutes wrote: »
    using the new M6 between moate and athlone last night, and just after the glenwood bridge overtook a large badly illuminated tractor towing a trailer full of hay. pissed me off no end. i was doing 120 and luckily noticed a couple of reflectors in the distance and managed to avoid...but others may not have been so lucky.

    am i right in thinking that this guy was breaking a handful of laws? it was about 9 pm and dark, and he could have caused an accident he was so poorly lit. the gardai need to nip this in the bud or else there'll be a load of cheeky farmers using the motorway as a "short cut"

    some days i'd love to be a cop, chancers like this need to be made an example of.
    Too late now to take action, you should have called the cops on 999 last nite, and reported it.

    as long as the sign with restrictions is up at all entries to the road, he shouldn't have been on it. If the road isn't restricted yet, then the lack of lighting, is an offence.
    Rear illumination is 2 reflectors and 2 red lights, and number plate light.


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    eringobragh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭eringobragh


    Bogger77 wrote: »
    Too late now to take action, you should have called the cops on 999 last nite, and reported it.
    Best use 999 for real emergencies!! Store TrafficWatch on your mobile 1890205805

    I've seen them in the Hardshoulder on the M6 as well.


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,457 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Vehicles under 50kmph not allowed on Motorways, some tractors like JCB Fastrack can do over 70kmph when delimited. not sure where these would stand.


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    Cool Mo D
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    There is no specific ban on tractors - must be able to reach 50 km/h though. Which is way to slow if you ask me - 80 km/h would be a more reasonable min motorway speed.


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    niceirishfella
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Vehicles under 50kmph not allowed on Motorways, some tractors like JCB Fastrack can do over 70kmph when delimited. not sure where these would stand.

    If its taxed agricultural, then its a farm tractor, so it should'nt be on a motorway.


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    .Longshanks.
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    I'm guessing not because I was behind a cop jeep this evening that was in the middle of pulling a Fastrack in on the M7. It was pulling a big trailer but was probably going 60kmph


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    Run_to_da_hills
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    eringobragh wrote: »
    Best use 999 for real emergencies!! Store TrafficWatch on your mobile 1890205805

    I've seen them in the Hardshoulder on the M6 as well.

    I would consider this as a real 999 emergency just the same as a horse running loose on the road. The guy driving the tractor was an ignorant farmer who had no regard for the rules of the road.

    If someone rear ended him at 70Mph they would be killed instantly. The farmer would then have to face charges off dangerous driving causing death.

    The only tractors permitted on the motorways are those that are contracted by the NRA for maintenance, these keep to the hard shoulder and are usually transported by low loaders or escorted by courtesy vehicles if they have to travel any distances.


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    Berty
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    All good and well phoning the local cop shop which is what I would have done.

    however, would you also call the local cop shop if you saw a learner driver?


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    Bogger77
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    quirke_folder wrote: »
    All good and well phoning the local cop shop which is what I would have done.

    however, would you also call the local cop shop if you saw a learner driver?

    If I saw a car, truck, etc. presenting a clear danger, I'd report it. The L plates may not be for the current driver. Theres no regs relating to display when not required.


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    Berty
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    Correct me if Im wrong, but I thought trucks were not allowed in the overtaking lanes.

    I hate trucks in the inside lane doing their max of 90kmh and the truck in the overtaking lane doing 91kmh.


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    maidhc
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    niceirishfella wrote: »
    If its taxed agricultural, then its a farm tractor, so it should'nt be on a motorway.

    But that isn't the law...


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    Berty
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    http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/motorways/general-rules.html


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    Cool Mo D
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    It is true that trucks aren't allowed in the overtaking lane also - it's quite annoying watching one truck take 10 minute to overtake a slightly slower one. On a three lane motorway, they can be in the 2 inside lanes only.


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    golden
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    You learn something new every day, I always thought that trucks were allowed to overtake on a two lane carriage however on a three lane they were not allowed to be on the outside lane. Also thought that there was a speed limit of 80kmh for trucks and buses.


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    patrickc
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    Cool Mo D wrote: »
    It is true that trucks aren't allowed in the overtaking lane also - it's quite annoying watching one truck take 10 minute to overtake a slightly slower one. On a three lane motorway, they can be in the 2 inside lanes only.

    yeh that irks me so much, ya never see the gardai puling them either ive seen the gardai behind them and just driving on when the truck moves back in.


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    Berty
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    They do have an upper speed limit but the speed limiter is always 10kmh and sometimes 15kmh over to allow for overtaking or continental driving.


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    Biro
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    quirke_folder wrote: »
    Correct me if Im wrong, but I thought trucks were not allowed in the overtaking lanes.

    I hate trucks in the inside lane doing their max of 90kmh and the truck in the overtaking lane doing 91kmh.

    It's a stupid f**king rule that. A truck on a motorway is not allowed to overtake, but once the dual carriageway ends he can overtake to his hearts content. What a load of bull****.


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    Biro
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    quirke_folder wrote: »
    They do have an upper speed limit but the speed limiter is always 10kmh and sometimes 15kmh over to allow for overtaking or continental driving.

    No, the limiter is at 80kmph. It cuts the throttle at just over that, so it's a balancing act to keep it just below that, otherwise you loose momentum. Most are delimited though by the owners.


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    Zube
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    I've passed a number of tractors on the M6. I think the problem comes from the fact that it opened as an unrestricted dual carriageway, and the farmers had a couple of months to get used to using it before the M-way restrictions came in.


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    ArseBurger
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    golden wrote: »
    You learn something new every day, I always thought that trucks were allowed to overtake on a two lane carriage however on a three lane they were not allowed to be on the outside lane. Also thought that there was a speed limit of 80kmh for trucks and buses.


    Do you have a full license?


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    Berty
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    Biro wrote: »
    No, the limiter is at 80kmph. It cuts the throttle at just over that, so it's a balancing act to keep it just below that, otherwise you loose momentum. Most are delimited though by the owners.

    I had a 17 tonne truck and I had a limiter like most trucks. Mine was set to 90kmh and I was glad to have it when overtaking in and around Galway. No motorways for me anyway.

    The guy working for the other company where we shared a cold storage depot did not have one when he went on holidays. When he came back he had one(damned boss of his). Boss never told him so while he was overtaking a car he hit the limit and the car he was overtaking undertook him.

    Oh the laughing we had at his expense.


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    gofaster_s13
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    golden wrote: »
    You learn something new every day, I always thought that trucks were allowed to overtake on a two lane carriage however on a three lane they were not allowed to be on the outside lane. Also thought that there was a speed limit of 80kmh for trucks and buses.

    Anything pulling a trailer be it car, jeep, van, bus or truck speed limit is 80kmh after that its trucks 90 kmh buses 100kmh and cars 120 kmh


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    el tel
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    I've seen combine harvesters going up the hard shoulder of the M1 with all sorts of **** and debris littering the road behind them. What the hell is that all about? The damn things take up the hard shoulder plus a half lane besides. I'm surprised the culchie muck savages don't graze their sheep on the cantral reservation too.


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