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  • 10-10-2008 10:57pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    Have a quick query re being stopped for a motoring offence.

    My gf and I were driving in Cork last weekend and she accidentally turned down a street against a red light after realising she was in the wrong lane. As luck(!) would have it, there was a squad car right behind - cue flashing lights and siren.

    Female garda came to the drivers side. GF admitted offence straight away, no contest, etc. Her licence was handed over to the garda who then went back to the squad car. After a few minutes, she returned, enquired if my gf still lived at the address that was associated with her licence (she does) and then said "Be more careful in future because if there was a car coming towards you there could have been an accident".

    She arrived home today to find a letter with a fixed charge of €80 and a 2 point endorsement on her licence when the charge is paid.

    My query is this - should she have been informed by the Garda at the time of the offence that she had committed an offence and that as a result she would be getting a fixed charge and a 2 point endorsement???? My GF fully accepts that she was in the wrong and never tried to plead otherwise. She doesn't have a problem with paying the fine, but based on what the Garda said at the time was left with the impression that she had gotten off with a slap on the wrist.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,321 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Afraid the answer is 'No'. The Garda does not have to tell you.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    is this the latest trick to avoid confrontation?

    everybody hates confrontation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,450 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    That gives me the creeps. If you're stopped by a Garda he/she should tell you that you're going to get points / a fine if that's their decision.

    Telling the offender not to do it again (which comes over as just a warning or a slap on the wrist) should not be followed by a penalty in the post (points or fine).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Delphi91


    is this the latest trick to avoid confrontation?

    everybody hates confrontation.

    That's what I thought too.
    That gives me the creeps. If you're stopped by a Garda he/she should tell you that you're going to get points / a fine if that's their decision.

    Telling the offender not to do it again (which comes over as just a warning or a slap on the wrist) should not be followed by a penalty in the post (points or fine).

    Maybe I've seen too many episodes of "Road Wars" or "Traffic Cops" where they DO advise the person that they've committed an offence and that they will be given a fine/points or both. One would have thought that it would be the decent thing to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭eringobragh


    unkel wrote: »
    That gives me the creeps. If you're stopped by a Garda he/she should tell you that you're going to get points / a fine if that's their decision.

    Telling the offender not to do it again (which comes over as just a warning or a slap on the wrist) should not be followed by a penalty in the post (points or fine).

    I agree thats pretty harsh, fair enough if they'd have told you :mad:. The opposite happened to me before, I was told I was going to receive some points in the post, said a prayer that night that the Traffic Cop would lose his notebook :P Never heard anything.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    unkel wrote: »
    That gives me the creeps. If you're stopped by a Garda he/she should tell you that you're going to get points / a fine if that's their decision.

    Telling the offender not to do it again (which comes over as just a warning or a slap on the wrist) should not be followed by a penalty in the post (points or fine).

    why didn't/doesn't he offender just ask the Garda ? What's with all the telekeniesis ? There is a an equal chance, asked about, the Garda might think on it a bit more.........."

    Mind you, the Garda was still right -

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Delphi91 wrote: »
    My query is this - should she have been informed by the Garda at the time of the offence that she had committed an offence and that as a result she would be getting a fixed charge and a 2 point endorsement????


    No the Garda did not have to tell your g/f about the fine or points but it would be best practice to do so.


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