Timing belt

Martron · 13-10-2008 10:14pm #1

What mileage should you change the timing belt on a 02 golf?

Thanks in advance

eringobragh · 13-10-2008 10:44pm

Reckon around 40K at a minimum or every 5 years as the belts can perish I'm told!. Time to get yours changed as it'll end up costing ye.

nogoodnamesleft · 13-10-2008 10:50pm

depends on the type of engine? The diesel unit is 60k miles or every 4 years which ever comes 1st. Dunno about the petrol.

Run_to_da_hills · 13-10-2008 11:01pm

Martron wrote: »

What mileage should you change the timing belt on a 02 golf?

Thanks in advance

If you bought this car from new it is a year over due irrespective of mileage. Book it into your main Volkswagen dealer immediately.

eringobragh · 13-10-2008 11:21pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If you bought this car from new it is a year over due irrespective of mileage. Book it into your main Volkswagen dealer immediately.

LOL and ask your bank for a mortgage to cover the bill :rolleyes: . An indy should be able to change this with ease. Ask him to change the tensioners and wate pump while he's at it.

Run_to_da_hills · 13-10-2008 11:30pm

eringobragh wrote: »

An indy should be able to change this with ease. Ask him to change the tensioners and wate pump while he's at it.

You don't have to ask a main dealer to change the tensioners or waterpump. :rolleyes:

Darragh29 · 13-10-2008 11:42pm

eringobragh wrote: »

LOL and ask your bank for a mortgage to cover the bill :rolleyes: . An indy should be able to change this with ease. Ask him to change the tensioners and wate pump while he's at it.

+1. VWMDMBX

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 12:13am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You don't have to ask a main dealer to change the tensioners or waterpump. :rolleyes:

You wouldn't want to the price they charge.

Run_to_da_hills · 14-10-2008 12:20am

eringobragh wrote: »

You wouldn't want to the price they charge.

Its worth getting quotes. These guys can sometimes do the job quicker than indies because they have all the correct tools and parts on tap.

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 12:30am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its worth getting quotes. These guys can sometimes do the job quicker than indies because they have all the correct tools and parts on tap.

700 notes for a belt change is the norm. I guessvin the current state they'll have to realise that peoples income's aren't disposable anymore.

Plug · 14-10-2008 7:32am

eringobragh wrote: »

700 notes for a belt change is the norm. I guessvin the current state they'll have to realise that peoples income's aren't disposable anymore.

700 is wrong.

Run_to_da_hills · 14-10-2008 11:06am

eringobragh wrote: »

700 notes for a belt change is the norm. I guessvin the current state they'll have to realise that peoples income's aren't disposable anymore.

700 maybe for a top end Jeep or SUV but not a Golf, unless it includes a full service on top of it. ie fan belts, filters, oils etc.

Those that cannot afford the cost of upkeep on a timing belt motor should consider the alternatives I.E. timing chain, push rod or side valve motors :rolleyes:

stretchaq · 14-10-2008 12:17pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

700 maybe for a top end Jeep or SUV but not a Golf, unless it includes a full service on top of it. ie fan belts, filters, oils etc.

Those that cannot afford the cost of upkeep on a timing belt motor should consider the alternatives I.E. timing chain, push rod or side valve motors :rolleyes:

Ok i argued this point before

i own an audi A4

Main dealer price when approched for timing belt and waterpump €1250:eek:

My local (certified mechanic) €460 (incl service)

WHO WOULD YOU USE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Run_to_da_hills · 14-10-2008 12:26pm

stretchaq wrote: »

Ok i argued this point before

i own an audi A4

Main dealer price when approched for timing belt and waterpump €1250:eek:

My local (certified mechanic) €460 (incl service)

WHO WOULD YOU USE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is he going to guarantee his work for X amount of mileage?

eringobragh · 14-10-2008 12:30pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Is he going to guarantee his work for X amount of mileage?

Its not exactly rocket science for a mechanic in fairness.

Is the main dealer? I've no doubt if they ****ed it up they'd spoof there way out of it.

Run_to_da_hills · 14-10-2008 12:52pm

eringobragh wrote: »

Its not exactly rocket science for a mechanic in fairness.

Is the main dealer? I've no doubt if they ****ed it up they'd spoof there way out of it.

Maybe not rocket science but there is a lot of expense and responsibility at stake on a botch timing belt job. Will a back street mechanic stand over the cost of a replacement block for an Audi A4 after 16.000 miles or two years after if the timing belt fails? The main dealer must take all this into consideration when doing this job.

How many back street mechanics take short cuts by not replacing the jockeys and tensioners? A well known trick of the trade is to mark the old belt and pulleys with tipex and offer the new belt in place with out replacing anything., bearings and bushings could be worn causing the new belt to wear prematurely.

Darragh29 · 14-10-2008 1:12pm

eringobragh wrote: »

700 notes for a belt change is the norm.

Certainly ot for a Mk4 Golf. OP, you shouldn't be paying any more than 400 Euro for this.

Darragh29 · 14-10-2008 1:17pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Maybe not rocket science but there is a lot of expense and responsibility at stake on a botch timing belt job. Will a back street mechanic stand over the cost of a replacement block for an Audi A4 after 16.000 miles or two years after if the timing belt fails? The main dealer must take all this into consideration when doing this job.

How many back street mechanics take short cuts by not replacing the jockeys and tensioners? A well known trick of the trade is to mark the old belt and pulleys with tipex and offer the new belt in place with out replacing anything., bearings and bushings could be worn causing the new belt to wear prematurely.

(1) Not all indy garages are "back street" operations as you suggest.

(2) The OP's car isn't an Audi A4, it's a VW Golf.

(3) What bearings and bushings are you referring to??? There are no bushings anywhere near a timing belt for a start. Also, the only bearing that should require replacing is the tensioner bearing/s which any reputable outlet would be replacing as a matter of course...

(4) All mechanics, or at least any mechanic who knows what he is doing, will use tip ex to mark up cam & crank positions. This is convention when doing timing belts.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

stretchaq · 14-10-2008 2:11pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

(1) Not all indy garages are "back street" operations as you suggest.

(2) The OP's car isn't an Audi A4, it's a VW Golf.

(3) What bearings and bushings are you referring to??? There are no bushings anywhere near a timing belt for a start. Also, the only bearing that should require replacing is the tensioner bearing/s which any reputable outlet would be replacing as a matter of course...

(4) All mechanics, or at least any mechanic who knows what he is doing, will use tip ex to mark up cam & crank positions. This is convention when doing timing belts.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Thank you god we have a lot of people on this forum who blag up main dealers like there gods many dont have the first notion its usually some 17 year old cheaper wage apprentice doin this work who will never have to do anything serious on a car!!!!!!!!!!

Run_to_da_hills · 14-10-2008 2:11pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

(1) Not all indy garages are "back street" operations as you suggest.
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Not all but there are plenty of chancers out there doing these jobs down laneways for cash with no come back. (The same guys that dock the mileage on cars)

Before I would get any timing belt job done I would want the work covered and signed on paper particularly on a relatively fresh car.

Darragh29 wrote: »

(2) The OP's car isn't an Audi A, it's a VW Golf.

I was answering stretchaq's post. :rolleyes: A cock up on a VW block would not be cheap either.

Darragh29 wrote: »

(3) What bearings and bushings are you referring to??? There are no bushings anywhere near a timing belt for a start. Also, the only bearing that should require replacing is the tensioner bearing/s which any reputable outlet would be replacing as a matter of course....

This is what should be replaced with at timing belt job.

I had a job done on a Ford Escort 1.9 Diesel van by guys down the road 10 years ago, the belt only lasted a few months they obviously did not replace all the parts in the kit.

Darragh29 wrote: »

(4) All mechanics, or at least any mechanic who knows what he is doing, will use tip ex to mark up cam & crank positions. This is convention when doing timing belts.

I am referring to those who line the new with the old directly without changing the jockey / tensioner or the water pump.

stretchaq · 14-10-2008 2:13pm

Run to da hills defo works in a main dealers maybe thats what the user name means anytime he gives a qoute the customer does just like his username:D:D:D

Darragh29 · 14-10-2008 2:37pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Not all but there are plenty of chancers out there doing these jobs down laneways for cash with no come back. (The same guys that dock the mileage on cars)

Before I would get any timing belt job done I would want the work covered and signed on paper particularly on a relatively fresh car.

The biggest chancers and theiving scumbags you will find are running franchised dealerships. Any reputable garage will give you an invoice with parts and labour information on it. Some of the least professional and sloppiest invoices I've seen have come straight out of a main delership.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I had a job done on a Ford Escort 1.9 Diesel van by guys down the road 10 years ago, the belt only lasted a few months they obviously did not replace all the parts in the kit.
I am referring to those who line the new with the old directly without changing the jockey / tensioner or the water pump.

Firstly you might point out us us where the bushings are in your picture, as you've stated in a previous post that bushings needed to be changed when doing a timing kit on this type of car, which is just pure rubbish.

Secondly, I'm at a loss to see the point you are trying to make above about alignment. Whether someone is replacing a timing belt or a timing kit, they use tip-ex marks as back up. EVERY mechanic should do this. There is no "trick" as you have suggested previously and also above, to do with changing a tensioner bearing and lining up what ever it is you are suggesting, this is just nonsense.

The reason the trade has such a bad name is because we have people such as yourself who make loose and uninformed associations between people who are at the bottom of the food chain in the industry and everyone else who works in the motor trade.

You have to understand that people who do these kind of tasks for a living are going to pull you up when you post advice that I would consider to be nothing other than clueless.

Martron · 14-10-2008 4:07pm

thanks for all the replies. it is the gf car. so i wanted to supply her with an informed answer before she blames me for not getting her to replace it!!!

in that case anyone recommend a garage out north county dublin side? lusk/rush/

Boggins127 · 02-11-2008 10:27pm

Hey
I have a 99 golf 1.4 petrol bought it with 90,300k on her have done abou 2,770k myself now i have noticed one problem. I am looking for a solution...When i start her cold she is shutting down as if its cutting out, this is without me touching the accelarator or clutch...now the other day i was leaving a friends house and she cut out while i was driving which turned the power steering off...which NEARLY put me inta the back of another car.. i was wondering if this has something to do with the timing belt which was changed at 54k and shouldn need to be changed till 108k so was wondering if anyone knows what the problem is???
Thanks
Dave:cool:

TheNog · 03-11-2008 3:05am

Boggins127 wrote: »

Hey
I have a 99 golf 1.4 petrol bought it with 90,300k on her have done abou 2,770k myself now i have noticed one problem. I am looking for a solution...When i start her cold she is shutting down as if its cutting out, this is without me touching the accelarator or clutch...now the other day i was leaving a friends house and she cut out while i was driving which turned the power steering off...which NEARLY put me inta the back of another car.. i was wondering if this has something to do with the timing belt which was changed at 54k and shouldn need to be changed till 108k so was wondering if anyone knows what the problem is???
Thanks
Dave:cool:

My missus drive a VW Bora and the same thing happens. It has cut out on me several times especially when slowing down but its not from normal stalling. Its got about 50k on it and been serviced 7k ago. Service on these cars is every 17k.

Moanin · 03-11-2008 10:18am

If the timing belt, water pump etc has been done by a non main dealer. Is there any way that you can tell that it has been done i.e. no receipts or old parts received after job done. My book was stamped and written in it that all the above were replaced.If the belt does snap does the dealer have to stand over his work if the book is stamped? I got a 3 months warranty for engine and gearbox only.The car is a 2006 2.0TDI Passat.

Thanks

Boggins127 · 09-11-2008 8:33pm

TheNog wrote: »

My missus drive a VW Bora and the same thing happens. It has cut out on me several times especially when slowing down but its not from normal stalling. Its got about 50k on it and been serviced 7k ago. Service on these cars is every 17k.

Got my car checked in with the mehanic
and his first impression was that Jump starting another car has caused the cpu ta crash...But then the next day he told me that the line that supplies the fuel/air mix had been gaffer taped as a repair by a former owner..lol..ridiculous this is the problem with my golf..but the jump starting he said does cause this so maybe check it out with your local mechanic.
Thanks,
Dave:cool:

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