eggs every day for brekkie??

I'm back to cutting carbs but find it near impossible to eat chicken/meat for breakfast. Soooo, is it ok to eat eggs every day for breakfast? is there any negative effects that I should know about?

wasabi

No it's fine. Eggs have a bad reputation due to containing cholesterol but it's been shown that cholesterol is mostly synthesized in your body rather than absorbed in your diet (and there's questions over whether cholesterol levels per se are anything to worry about anyway).

Anyway I eat 3 or 4 eggs most mornings myself and yet to die of it, know of several others who do similar and no issues.

If you get bored of eggs cottage cheese with some flaked almonds in is nice of a morning too, as is greek yogurt with some whey protein powder stirred in and maybe a few strawberries or similar on top depending on how strict you're being with the carbs.

There is no doubt I will get bored of eggs I usually do! I'm not being atkins strict so berries will be included as will lots of veg.

My PT told me a while back that if you eat the same thing all the time your body can become intollerant to it, but I've never heard this before or since so was looking to see if anyone else had.

An more brekkie suggestions will be very welcome!

c - 13

wasabi wrote: »

No it's fine. Eggs have a bad reputation due to containing cholesterol but it's been shown that cholesterol is mostly synthesized in your body rather than absorbed in your diet (and there's questions over whether cholesterol levels per se are anything to worry about anyway).

Yep thats prettty much it in a nutshell. I'm averaging on 12 a day at the moment and i'm fine. I love eggs.

there isn't a hope I could eat that many eggs a day - well i'm a gurl so don't think i really should anyway!!
So the intolerance thing is nonsense then?

wasabi

I've heard of people developing intolerances for things like soy due to overconsumption, but you should be OK with eggs. People have been eating eggs for a very long time so our bodies are well able to assimilate them. They're really one of the very best things you can eat, very nutritious, tons of vitamins and minerals in the yolk.

Egg allergies/intolerances aren't common, and usually it's small kids who get it. You wouldn't worry about developing a meat intolerance, would you? :pac:

c - 13

Deleted User wrote: »

there isn't a hope I could eat that many eggs a day - well i'm a gurl so don't think i really should anyway!!
So the intolerance thing is nonsense then?

Some people can get the intolerances alright, I've read/heard of it but never had it happen to me. They're supposedly only temporary though so just cut them for a couple of weeks and you should be fine again. Thats if it happens of course.

I believe its more common with people who drink shed loads of milk, they can develop a mild temporary sort of lactose intolerance.

aare

I have egg intolerance myself...

BUT...

I first had it when I was about 10-13...it went away, probably as an indirect result of my celiac reaction, and only came back when I went "gluten free" and my gut healed...

Meanwhile, I ate ONE HECK of a lot of eggs (Atkins related) with no ill-effects at times. It actually came back when I wasn't eating many...

So don't worry about it, I'd say that, on the whole, if you are sensitive, you are sensitive and if not, not...

Mushrooms are one of my favorite "egg free", "gluten free", "dairy free" breakfast standbys...fry up a load in olive oil with a couple of sliced tomatoes - really nice and tasty, and, I think, low carb? But there are loads of less restricted "other ways" to use mushrooms, that I daren't even think about (many involve "cheese" - I miss cheese )

cozmik

http://www.eggs.ie/listing.asp?id=17&cat=15

wasabi

wasabi wrote: »

You wouldn't worry about developing a meat intolerance, would you? :pac:

Well ya see that's just it, my PT told me that if you eat the same things every day - including meat & fish that I could become intolerant to them.....
He even told me not to eat the same nuts every day. [EDIT] (no comments please )

I'll take it with a pinch of salt so!

Thanks guys

christeb

^^ Your PT sounds a bit mad alright, I've never heard anything like that.

I'm eat 2 poached eggs for brekkie daily, after reading the attached report I think I'll start upping it to 3, there doesn't seem to be any harm in it and I exercise a lot also

Yeh he's pretty hardcore, if I listened to everything he said I wouldn't have a life!

well i've been having a 3 egg omlette with a teen tiny bit of cheese every morning and have found it fine so far, and I've already lost a bit of weight so I'm happy with that, had rice last night though :eek:

aare

Deleted User wrote: »

well i've been having a 3 egg omlette with a teen tiny bit of cheese every morning

You are trying to torture me, aren't you?

But don't worry, there are worse sins than a "bit of rice" or they would never have bothered having an inquisition...

But keep the rice BROWN*.

*NB IMHO Brown rice is not just, as I had always believed, white-rice-that-hasn't-taken-it's-coat-off-yet, but rather seems to have, with regular use, properties bordering on the magical in terms of all aspects of internal plumbing (including, but not limited to, kidney functions) that the good of it will always tend to outweight the harm as part of a calorie controlled, low carb, diet.

brianthebard

wasabi wrote: »

I've heard of people developing intolerances for things like soy due to overconsumption, but you should be OK with eggs. People have been eating eggs for a very long time so our bodies are well able to assimilate them. They're really one of the very best things you can eat, very nutritious, tons of vitamins and minerals in the yolk.

Egg allergies/intolerances aren't common, and usually it's small kids who get it. You wouldn't worry about developing a meat intolerance, would you? :pac:

Egg intolerance/resistance (or the temporary kind) is often linked with antibotics though, apparently one of the main ingredients of the tablets is egg. So an intolerance can build up after several doses.apparently.

god i hate brown rice - tis yucky! is basmati any better than regular white rice?
sorry for making you jealous, i find the cheese takes the egginess out of the eggs!!

Never knew that about antibiotics having egg in them - thats a bit mad!

aare

*chuckles*

Everyone tortures me with cheese...

And don't pay too much attention to the antibiotic aspect. I am not sure eggs ARE a major ingredient, and even if they are, it is *TOLERANCE* (so they don't work any more) that you develop with overuse of antibiotics...not *INTOLERANCE* (so that they mess you up):rolleyes:

Sapsorrow

Just so you know from a nutritionists point of view these low carb, high protein diets are seriously bad news and totally unsustainable. Dr. Atkins actually died from serious heart disease but the book publishers like to keep that to themselves. Realistically you cannot keep this diet up forever and as soon as you go back onto normal eating patterns the weight will come back. Anyway the right carbs, ie the wholegrains are really low in calories and keep you feeling full for longer and balance out your cravings. You also need them and pleanty of veg to keep your stomach and bowels healthy to prevent the risks of developing colon, rectal and other cancers. PLease pay heed to this advice because those high protein diets are so hard on your body and organs liek the kidneys and liver esp and there are way healthier and sustainable ways to lose weight and live a happy and fufilled food life! Research online and you'll find a lot of damaging evidence against those sort of diets that will probably shock you.

aare

The real "bad news" in terms of diet is *generalisation* - any generalisation.

Overweight is very bad for you, obesity can be lethal. Avoiding both the best way you *realistically* can should be a priority.

If you are comfortable losing weight on a low carb, high protein diet, and it suits your lifestyle, you are far better off that way than failing to be able to adhere another form of diet.

When you are at a healthy weight the best thing to do is eat healthily, and realistically in accord with your needs, preferences (yup, we do have those, and it is HEALTHY to have preferences, helps us stay human ).

And just to prove that you cannot generalise:

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Anyway the right carbs, ie the wholegrains are really low in calories and keep you feeling full for longer and balance out your cravings. You also need them and pleanty of veg to keep your stomach and bowels healthy to prevent the risks of developing colon, rectal and other cancers.

If I started eating wholegrains I would make myself extremelly ill and increase my risk of developing colon, rectal and other cancers by many times over.

If I ate "plenty" of most veg my stomach and bowels would vacillate between "the perfect storm" and "fast setting concrete".

I certainly couldn't lose any weight either way, but that is so far down the list of problems I would have it is hardly worth mentioning.

Sorry but there is no "one true way" that is best for everyone...and I don't think anyone should try to claim that there is.

Dealing with a weight problem isn't just a matter of metabolism and biochemistry, it is also about sustaining, or even finding, a healthy mental and emotional outlook, as well as the motivation to change your life, and the material means to do so.

Edwardius

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Dr. Atkins actually died from serious heart disease but the book publishers like to keep that to themselves.

Did he now?

He had a cardiac arrest alright
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/diet.fitness/04/25/atkins.diet/index.html

The source of this was due to an infection,

This isn't what killed him though. He died of a head trauma after slipping on an ice patch

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Realistically you cannot keep this diet up forever and as soon as you go back onto normal eating patterns the weight will come back.

"go back onto normal eating patterns"?
What are these?

I think you're confusing this with stage 1 Atkins intervention and even that provides for a lot of vegetables. This is for the morbidly obese. The lifetime maintainence plan allows more carbs and fruit. Have you read the book or are you quoting something your brother in law's uncle was told by his "mate" in the pub?

khrystyna100 wrote: »

PLease pay heed to this advice because those high protein diets are so hard on your body and organs liek the kidneys and liver esp and there are way healthier and sustainable ways to lose weight and live a happy and fufilled food life! Research online and you'll find a lot of damaging evidence against those sort of diets that will probably shock you.

Oh, Do you have evidence of this type of diet causing kidney damage to an individual who had no previous kidney issues?

amazingemmet

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Just so you know from a nutritionists point of view these low carb, high protein diets are seriously bad news and totally unsustainable. Dr. Atkins actually died from serious heart disease but the book publishers like to keep that to themselves. Realistically you cannot keep this diet up forever and as soon as you go back onto normal eating patterns the weight will come back. Anyway the right carbs, ie the wholegrains are really low in calories and keep you feeling full for longer and balance out your cravings. You also need them and pleanty of veg to keep your stomach and bowels healthy to prevent the risks of developing colon, rectal and other cancers. PLease pay heed to this advice because those high protein diets are so hard on your body and organs liek the kidneys and liver esp and there are way healthier and sustainable ways to lose weight and live a happy and fufilled food life! Research online and you'll find a lot of damaging evidence against those sort of diets that will probably shock you.

One word: eskimo:pac:

Also can you back up anything you've said with anything that isn't heresay and conjecture

brianthebard

amazingemmet wrote: »

One word: eskimo:pac:

Also can you back up anything you've said with anything that isn't heresay and conjecture

(s)he learned all about it at their weekend nutritionist certification course.

Sapsorrow

Guys I'm only trying to offer some freinedly advice, for your information i'm three years into a degree in nutritional science, which of ye critics are more qualified to give advice on a helathy diet?

Edwardius

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Guys I'm only trying to offer some freinedly advice, for your information i'm three years into a degree in nutritional science, which of ye critics are more qualified to give advice on a helathy diet?

What are they teaching you then?!

brianthebard

khrystyna100 wrote: »

Guys I'm only trying to offer some freinedly advice, for your information i'm three years into a degree in nutritional science, which of ye critics are more qualified to give advice on a helathy diet?

We can all be studying nutritional science, but what are you going to provide in the way of evidence that backs up your previous argument?

aare

Dead Ed wrote: »

He died of a head trauma after slipping on an ice patch

Dunno...that might have been down to the diet...I fell over a lot in stage 2 myself...usually after having plenty of permitted fruit in fermented form

khrystyna100 wrote: »

which of ye critics are more qualified to give advice on a helathy diet?

Me...but if I told you *they* would probably have to shoot you...;)

khrystyna, you are putting forward one of many, perfectly reasonable, dietary options, as some kind of one-size-fits-all one-true-way and that tells me that, whatever you have studied, you still have a very great deal to learn...and that you didn't exactly have your facts straight, only reinforces that impression.

Sapsorrow

Yes you could be but you not are you, otherwise i'd probably know you if you were seeing as it's the only university course in the country of it's kind. The topic of low carb, high protein diets is a very controversial one in medical and scientific circles, but the basic principles of a healthy diet that promotes not only a balanced body weight but also a reduced risk of all lifestlye related diseases such as CV disease and cancer is not and if you compare the principles of these diets you will find that the high protein low carb diets are simple not in accordance with the standard ideal diet for health and longevity. A wide variety of foods from all the food groups bar sweets and certain fats are necessary for health and to cut out a food group such as wholegrains which is so benificial to our health in terms of valuable nutrients such as insoluble fibre, vitamins, minerals and essential fatty acids for any length of time would be folly. It's not complicated nutrition if anything it goes back to the most fundamental principles of healthy eating. There is stacks of information on the effects of a high proten diet on organs such as the kidneys, and there is also lots of info on the potential harm of a diet low in complex carbs for anyone who's interested.

brianthebard

khrystyna100 wrote: »

There is stacks of information on the effects of a high proten diet on organs such as the kidneys, and there is also lots of info on the potential harm of a diet low in complex carbs for anyone who's interested.

Eh yeah that's what we are asking you for.

Edwardius

Also, out of interest, could you define "high protein"?

Sapsorrow

I'm sure you can manage to do your own research if you care enough, i'd reccommend you try nutrition for dummies as a starter

brianthebard

khrystyna100 wrote: »

I'm sure you can manage to do your own research if you care enough, i'd reccommend you try nutrition for dummies as a starter

I'll take that as your concession speech shall I?

g'em

khrystyna, while you may be studying Nutrition you haven't yet actually qualified anything you've said with back-up evidence. "Nutrition for Dummies" isn't quite the reliable source of information that a student of science should be familiarising themselves with - show me journals to back up the claims of ill-health in high protein, low carb diets (I think you'lll actually find the reverse, and these kinds of diets not only enhance CV health but improve insulin sensitivity and have even been linked to an imrpovement in Alzheimers' symptoms in animal models: linkage one, two, three).

You're right, diets and nutrition on the whole are very hotly contended within scientific circles, and as someone who has worked in the biological sciences for 10 years + now I'm a huge advocate of using evidence to present a strong argument.

So please, when you make strong claims, back them up, or we can only conclude that what you're saying is, as has been suggested, merely conjecture and hearsay.

F8ck me, you guys have been busy while I wasn't looking!!

Hmmm, well, first off, i have never been on the Atkins diet, cos I've never needed to be, but what I do know is that anyone I know who has been on it, eats alot of fried food, i never fry anything, with the exception of omelettes, which I use a spray olive oil for, I also eat alot of veg which are nice and carby!!!

One thing I can say is that I feel the healthiest when I am off carbs, my body works better, I get more from a workout, I just feel, well, better.

Tonight, however, is Friday, and "cheat" night, so, couple of glasses of wine, and a chinese never killed anyone!!!

cozmik

Deleted User wrote: »

Soooo, is it ok to eat eggs every day for breakfast? is there any negative effects that I should know about?

ABSTRACT

Objective: While limited and inconsistent findings have been reported on the relation between dietary cholesterol or egg consumption and fasting glucose, no previous study has examined the association between egg consumption and type 2 diabetes. This project sought to examine the relation between egg intake and the risk of type 2 diabetes in two large prospective cohorts.

Research Design and Methods: Prospective design using data from two completed randomized trials: 20,703 men from the Physicians' Health Study I (1982–2007) and 36,295 women from the Women's Health Study (1992–2007). Egg consumption was ascertained using questionnaires and we used Cox proportional hazard model to estimate relative risks of type 2 diabetes.

Results: During mean follow up of 20.0 years in men and 11.7 years in women, 1,921 men and 2,112 women developed type 2 diabetes. Compared with no egg consumption, multivariable adjusted hazard ratios (95% CI) for type 2 diabetes were 1.09 (0.87–1.37), 1.09 (0.88–1.34), 1.18 (0.95–1.45), 1.46 (1.14–1.86), and 1.58 (1.25–2.01) for consumption of <1, 1, 2–4, 5–6, and 7+ eggs/week, respectively, in men (p for trend <0.0001). Corresponding multivariable hazard ratios (95% CI) for women were 1.06 (0.92–1.22), 0.97 (0.83–1.12), 1.19 (1.03–1.38), 1.18 (0.88–1.58), and 1.77 (1.28–2.43), respectively (p for trend <0.0001).

Conclusions: These data suggest that high levels of egg consumption (daily) are associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes in men and women. Confirmation of these findings in other populations is warranted.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/dc08-1271v1?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=Egg+Consumption&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT

g'em

cozmik wrote: »

Conclusions: These data suggest that high levels of egg consumption (daily) are associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes in men and women. Confirmation of these findings in other populations is warranted.

Causation or correlation though? It says nothing about what these people are eating in the rest of their diets.

El_Dangeroso

cozmik wrote: »

ABSTRACT

Objective: While limited and inconsistent findings have been reported on the relation between dietary cholesterol or egg consumption and fasting glucose, no previous study has examined the association between egg consumption and type 2 diabetes. This project sought to examine the relation between egg intake and the risk of type 2 diabetes in two large prospective cohorts.

Research Design and Methods: Prospective design using data from two completed randomized trials: 20,703 men from the Physicians' Health Study I (1982–2007) and 36,295 women from the Women's Health Study (1992–2007). Egg consumption was ascertained using questionnaires and we used Cox proportional hazard model to estimate relative risks of type 2 diabetes.

Results: During mean follow up of 20.0 years in men and 11.7 years in women, 1,921 men and 2,112 women developed type 2 diabetes. Compared with no egg consumption, multivariable adjusted hazard ratios (95% CI) for type 2 diabetes were 1.09 (0.87–1.37), 1.09 (0.88–1.34), 1.18 (0.95–1.45), 1.46 (1.14–1.86), and 1.58 (1.25–2.01) for consumption of <1, 1, 2–4, 5–6, and 7+ eggs/week, respectively, in men (p for trend <0.0001). Corresponding multivariable hazard ratios (95% CI) for women were 1.06 (0.92–1.22), 0.97 (0.83–1.12), 1.19 (1.03–1.38), 1.18 (0.88–1.58), and 1.77 (1.28–2.43), respectively (p for trend <0.0001).

Conclusions: These data suggest that high levels of egg consumption (daily) are associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes in men and women. Confirmation of these findings in other populations is warranted.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/dc08-1271v1?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=Egg+Consumption&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT

Junk science of the highest order.. studies like these make me wonder what the heck is going on with the peer review process.

1. They singled out eggs without adjusting for carb intake. These people could have been eating 10 slices of toast with their eggs for all we know.

2. The data comes from self reporting questionnaires, garbage in, garbage out.

3. Correlation does not imply causation, repeat ad infinitum.

Jesus wept.

BTW I eat at least 4 eggs a day, have a healthy BMI, shiny hair and all the myriad benefits of the carb-controlled lifestyle.