Multi Boxing Extreme

Orion

Beat this!

Splinter

was reading that at the weekend... silly fcuker spends $571 dollars a month on accounts... i imagine if all 36 shamans used chain lightening on a city then it would stop the place fairly quick....

Anti

homeboy needs to get out more me thinks.

KilOit

Blizz are ***** for allowing this imagine doing the same on some other online game even a fps running arround with more than 1 char able to kill anyone,
It's a real shame they stoop this low to get more money in my mind it's no better than cheating

Nehaxak

I think that's fantastic Fair dues to him.

Ivan

KilOit wrote: »

Blizz are ***** for allowing this imagine doing the same on some other online game even a fps running arround with more than 1 char able to kill anyone,
It's a real shame they stoop this low to get more money in my mind it's no better than cheating

Err, multiboxing is not against the rules of any MMO I've ever played, nor any FPS game for that matter.

It's as far from cheating as you can get without playing normally and it generally tends to require a good setup, patience and at least a little bit of skill.

Anyone

They should just ban Key Clone programs. How the f**k they are allowed is beyond me considering they are a 3rd party external programme.

Oh, and the person in the OP's post is a sad sad man.

Ass

Fair play to him.

Seems a lot of people in this thread seem pretty jealous of his ability to play with 36 accounts or the fact that he's able to afford such an expensive hobby.

The irony in this thread is that the ones calling for him to get a life are probably the ones with out lives themselves. They usually are.

VinLieger

He says it only cocts him 570 a month but that doesnt include repairs/replacements parts for all those comps, then add on the electricity bill for running all those machines at once and your talking big money

TheDoc

Seems a lot of people in this thread seem pretty jealous of his ability to play with 36 accounts or the fact that he's able to afford such an expensive hobby.

HAHA I dont think im jealous in the slightest...at all.

Whats the point of multiboxing, running 25 man or 10 man instances on your own.

It defies the whole point of world of warcraft, the whole point of socialising, its why these people are labelled so.

If you cant social online, youve no chance and might aswell order the coffin in fairness.

Jealousy doesnt come in once, i think its crap and absurd. Today had a guy on my team in BG with 9 other chars multiboxing, practically destroyed everyone and thing, and we won in like ten mins.

Was no fun for me, and no fun for the allies let me asure you....

Obviously wouldnt be banned in a million years, these sad people give extra money to blizz, and it is said, its nothing to do with skill etc, its just, lame.

I've got many max level chars, but i didnt multibox them, went to the effort of doing it one by one...

sigh.

I nearly had a fit having to pay 20 euro to transfer a character, to have my mate i transfered too quit...but this guy takes the ****ing biscuit.

O and i dont see any skill in multiboxing, everything is bound, you press 1 and you have 10 chars cast a spell etc, thats not skill

If someone multiboxes and uses more then 2 keyboards id be well impressed

Ivan

I'm sorry, but if you dont think there is any skill involved, then you are missing the bigger picture. And as for "you press 1 and you have 10 chars cast a spell etc.", whats the difference between that and "you press 1 and you cast a spell", there is still skill involved, irregardless of how many characters are involved. But there is added skill in controlling many characters together in such a way as to be effective. Likewise, there is skill involved in killing them all

As for keyclone, the reason it isnt banned is because it is a 3rd party program but it doesnt interfere with the normal running of WoW or any of its memory processes. Likewise, curse and wowhead's database programs arent in breach of their EULA.

I'm sorry people, but it doesnt break the rules, some people find it fun and more importantly; they can afford it. So really, whats the issue?

Ass

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

HAHA I dont think im jealous in the slightest...at all.

Whats the point of multiboxing, running 25 man or 10 man instances on your own.

To see if you can do it or not. Doing 25 mans with 24 other people is all well and fun, until you realise one day, you're doing the same thing on a different day. Once or twice a week, going to the same place, with the same people, doing the same tactics, over and over again until everyone has got the gear they need.

This guy has simply found a new and interesting way of getting fun out of the content that most now find boring. You can't see that though, so you come out with the "looooooser, no lfie, he lives in his moms basement!!1111" crap. It's a rather common character flaw.

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

It defies the whole point of world of warcraft, the whole point of socialising, its why these people are labelled so.

If you cant social online, youve no chance and might aswell order the coffin in fairness.

Yeah, I'm sure the guy with 36 wow accounts has never played wow normally. I'd also be pretty sure he doesn't interact with anyone outside his group of characters. He probably chats to himself using the different accounts...

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

Jealousy doesnt come in once, i think its crap and absurd. Today had a guy on my team in BG with 9 other chars multiboxing, practically destroyed everyone and thing, and we won in like ten mins.

Was no fun for me, and no fun for the allies let me asure you....

I suggest you learn to play and avoid him then. Would you win against 9 characters with 9 players playing each individual character? Don't think so.

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

O and i dont see any skill in multiboxing, everything is bound, you press 1 and you have 10 chars cast a spell etc, thats not skill

If someone multiboxes and uses more then 2 keyboards id be well impressed

There's a lot more skill in micromanaging 36 different character to be all able to press 1 at the same time as there is in managing a single character to do the same thing.

Also, you can have a set of healers casting only healing spells with in the group of characters.

mayordenis

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

Whats the point of multiboxing, running 25 man or 10 man instances on your own.

If you read it you'd know he's just doing it for fun. so shut up.

and if you ever tried it you would know it is fun because it actually does require alot of effort but there is a payoff.

and why would the ban keyclone? whoever said that is just talking nonsense, it would have very little effect on the multiboxers.

Anti

Why the need for all the kb/mice. Why not use a kvm switch ?

DRakE

I've no idea why he'd play more than 25 accounts..

25 man raiding

Blowfish

meh, he should have gone with Mages. Seeing them all pop Mirror Image at once would be fun

Splinter

can you imagine 36 fire elementals and 36 shamans all casting chainlightening? /shudder

Caliden

didnt some guy get 5 shamans and basically destroy all the high rated teams in the 5v5 bracket. Then when the 'hardcore' teams on BG9 told him it was only because he was playing idiots he moved to BG9 and destoryed them too.
Not much you can do against 5x elemental mastery+chain lightning on the same target. 18k burst damage is unhealable

Evac101

The guy doing this (Sam_Deathwalker is his nick on the dual-boxing forums) is a Texan whose been multi-boxing since UO and Everquest. He was originally going to go for a 25 box set up but someone with whom he shares a friendly rivalry with in the dual-boxing scene beat him to it, so he decided to go for 36 to 'cap' his rival. From previous posts on the dual-boxing forums I seem to remember that he's a self employed married father of two so it seems his social skills must be equal to the task of deals with his family and conducting a business at the very least.

As to the fairness/unfairness of multi-boxing, it's been addressed literally hundreds of times by Blues, multi-boxers and hard core PvPers on the Blizzard forums and various other forums. The basic gist of it is, multi-boxing doesn't represent any advantage in PvP that can't be replicated by a similar number of players using basic macros (/assist, etc) and has a number of disadvantages over individual minds controlling each character. If you find multi-boxing unfair, do you also object to people coordinating assist trains via voice-coms? There are a number of well known tactics to use against multi-boxers which even the boxers who PvP a lot find difficult to avoid/compensate for (about 10% of the boxer population since the vast majority are PvE exclusively). Using these tactics generally turns a 5 man or 10 man boxing team into so much chum, not using these tactics will generally result in getting your ass handed to you. The short version of this is, if you find multi-boxers a formidable challenge in PvP you're either un-informed regarding the appropriate tactics to use, stuck on a team with people unable to master the basic coordination to execute the tactics I've referred to, solo (in which case do you generally expect to survive a 5-1 or 10-1 encounters? so what's different?) or had the bad luck to encounter one of the, frankly, tiny subset of boxers who PvPs and is actually good at it. In the last case you would have had the exact same experience if you had encountered an assist train team in PVP, with less chance to disrupt them then you would have had against a boxer.

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Btw, Ellay (or Aelli) who Caliden is referring to was having a much more difficult season in S4 with a lot of the teams at the high end in BG9 using LoS, CC unaffected by tremor totems, spell reflect and a number of other tactics to ensure that he had a very hard time staying >2200. There's no doubt (in my mind anyhow) that Ellay is a skilled player who has thought out his Arena style very thoroughly regarding how best to exploit the 4 shaman set up he uses (he players with a druid or paladin healer played by another boxer) but S4 shows that equally serious players have thought long and hard to come up successful tactics to use against him (and other, none boxer, 4 ele shaman + healer teams). They encountered, adapted and overcome.

displeaser

Manties wrote: »

Why the need for all the kb/mice. Why not use a kvm switch ?

Most Multiboxers dont pass mouse movements/clicks through their multiple warcrafts (be it on on machine or multiple machines). KVM Switches are rarely used by people at the high end of Multiboxing.

Some other comments:
It's his money so who is anyone to say how he spends it is wrong or a waste. It's his choice to spend money on whatever he wants and he clearly has enough money to pump into it.

Playing 36 characters wouldn't take much more time to play then playing one character. Once the effort of setting up the hardware is done, its an extra 5 minutes to set-up once he starts and he's good to go. Also he is using the recruit a friend option for some of them which as you know gives excellent xp and the level granting will help him a lot to.

Why play 36 characters, well, as stated it's fun, its a challenge, its something new. I have 8 level 70's, all leveled individually and I've seen all the current content, so I play on 5 shammies. What are my reasons? Simple, it makes wow interesting again. And I'm sure there's some of that in his rational for playing 36 characters.

Multi-boxing is (as also stated above) completely within the terms and conditions that blizzard expect players to play under. For people who say that multi-boxers are too powerful, yes the are/can be very effective, but they also have some inherent weaknesses and take more then average skill to play. Because some don't like playing them, they shouldn't label people that do, as losers, no-lifers, cheats or say it's ruining the game. People that multibox are none of the above and it most definitly is not ruining the game.

Do I think 36 accounts is excessive? well for me it would be, but he is having fun and enjoying the process so best of luck to him.

CrossBreed

I was going to make a post dissecting everyone arguments, but it seems that "Ass Face" has already done it for me.

I know some people who multi-box IRL. It's just something new and different to do when they're not on their main or legion of alts. To be perfectly honest, I really don't see the problem with it. It's not against the rules in any way, shape, or form.