Just Had my Accord Auto Serviced €510 ouch

Honda08

just had my accord auto, 2007 serviced at a main dealer, cost was 510 euro including rear pads.. is this a rip off?

the service was a full 40,000km service and new rear pads supplied and fitted.. done at a main dealers..

jayok

Sounds about right - it gets serviced once per annum or 20,000kms. At 40kms This is normally Oil, filters (pollen & co), sparks and in your case brake pads.

The brother's 2.4 Auto was done at 36k miles two months ago and he needed the same as you (incl rear pads) and it was about €500 as well. The bill breakdown looked fine.

niceirishfella

Congratulations!
Welcome to the world of Main Dealer ripp off prices.
Enjoy the RIDE!

Honda08

jayok wrote: »

Sounds about right - it gets serviced once per annum or 20,000kms. At 40kms This is normally Oil, filters (pollen & co), sparks and in your case brake pads.

The brother's 2.4 Auto was done at 36k miles two months ago and he needed the same as you (incl rear pads) and it was about €500 as well. The bill breakdown looked fine.

also be aware that the valve clearance checks , just found about it now need to be done at 40k km.. its part of the main service.. i read on here earlier that irish dealers dont do it..... ??

Honda08

niceirishfella wrote: »

Congratulations!
Welcome to the world of Main Dealer ripp off prices.
Enjoy the RIDE!

pac::D:D;):p

jayok

niceirishfella wrote: »

Congratulations!
Welcome to the world of Main Dealer ripp off prices.
Enjoy the RIDE!

With respect not all main dealers are rip-off. The very existence of a business is to generate profit and that's what dealers do. Why do you think €510 for what the OP got was rip-off? Yes the OP could possibly have done it himself, but for the €510 the car was:

1. Serviced or overseen by a qualified Honda mechanic
2. Used OEM Honda parts
3. Compliant with the waranty requirments of the car.

To me, €510 seems fair. €200 would be cheap and €2000 would be a rip-off.

Honda08

jayok wrote: »

With respect not all main dealers are rip-off. The very existence of a business is to generate profit and that's what dealers do. Why do you think €510 for what the OP got was rip-off? Yes the OP could possibly have done it himself, but for the €510 the car was:

1. Serviced or overseen by a qualified Honda mechanic
2. Used OEM Honda parts
3. Compliant with the waranty requirments of the car.

To me, €510 seems fair. €200 would be cheap and €2000 would be a rip-off.

yes except in the manual, honda say the car needs a valve clearance check done at 40k km, just reading the manual now.. also someone else posted bout it here recently. im pretty sure that it wasnt done on my car.

so: the main dealer, didnt actually carry out the service as recommended in the service schedule!

also how qualified are the mechanics in honda dealers??

jayok

Honda08 wrote: »

yes except in the manual, honda say the car needs a valve clearance check done at 40k km, just reading the manual now.. also someone else posted bout it here recently. im pretty sure that it wasnt done on my car.

so: the main dealer, didnt actually carry out the service as recommended in the service schedule!

Do you know this or are you just guessing this? If you didn't trust the main dealer why get it serviced by them?

I am not trying to defend rip-off merchants and I've no connection with the Motor trade, but I have always used Main Honda dealers to service the Honda's we've had. The prices seem fair to me and all invoices breakdown the actual work done. Our normal cost of service on the Civic / CRV / Stream was always around the €200 mark (€300 if sparks and brakes are in the mix).

In comparison for the BMW in the family, I've used an Indy as Main Dealers were just costing too much for comfort. The Indy still charges €400 for a Inspect I. This the cost of doing motoring. Main dealer prices are set by the Manufacturer. Take your €510:

VAT @ 13.5% = €60
Leaving €450

Labour say 3 hours @ €65 / hour = €195

Parts - which will include the following:

1. Oil
2. Oil Filter
3. Pollen Filter
4. Sparks
5. Possible Valve Clearance Checks
6. Rear brake pads
7. Misc items
8. Environment disposal

Total = €250.

Where is this rip-off?

If you want cheap servicing do it yourself. If you want cheaper servicing get an Indy.

jayok

Honda08 wrote: »

also how qualified are the mechanics in honda dealers??

From your edit:

The are qualified to different levels depending on the requirements of the car.

For example a level 1 can change, say the oil and sparks. Level 2 can change the CV joints or similar. Level 3 can change the gearbox, steering rack, etc.

It's not necessary to employ Level 3+ engineers just to change the oil.

Honda08

jayok wrote: »

Do you know this or are you just guessing this? If you didn't trust the main dealer why get it serviced by them?

I am not trying to defend rip-off merchants and I've no connection with the Motor trade, but I have always used Main Honda dealers to service the Honda's we've had. The prices seem fair to me and all invoices breakdown the actual work done. Our normal cost of service on the Civic / CRV / Stream was always around the €200 mark (€300 if sparks and brakes are in the mix).

In comparison for the BMW in the family, I've used an Indy as Main Dealers were just costing too much for comfort. The Indy still charges €400 for a Inspect I. This the cost of doing motoring. Main dealer prices are set by the Manufacturer. Take your €510:

VAT @ 13.5% = €60
Leaving €450

Labour say 3 hours @ €65 / hour = €195

Parts - which will include the following:

1. Oil
2. Oil Filter
3. Pollen Filter
4. Sparks
5. Possible Valve Clearance Checks
6. Rear brake pads
7. Misc items
8. Environment disposal

Total = €250.

Where is this rip-off?

If you want cheap servicing do it yourself. If you want cheaper servicing get an Indy.

dude read my first post. i was looking for opinions. i wanted main dealer and paid main dealer. i am just wondering , for the people in the know, are valve clearance checks important?

niceirishfella

Honda08 wrote: »

the ride was FINE with ur MA in the back seat.:pac::D:D;):p

I think your on the wrong forum Honda08.
Head over to BGRH for those kinda meaningless comments.

jayok

Honda08 wrote: »

dude read my first post. i was looking for opinions. i wanted main dealer and paid main dealer.

Then these are main dealer prices and if you work through it you will see that they are fair and IMO €510 is a fair price for the work you got done.

Honda08

niceirishfella wrote: »

I think your on the wrong forum Honda08.
Head over to BGRH for those kinda meaningless comments.

same goes for post 3 on this thread!! while you are mentioning meaningless comments ...

pot, and kettle.

Honda08

jayok wrote: »

Then these are main dealer prices and if you work through it you will see that they are fair and IMO €510 is a fair price for the work you got done.

grand ...

niceirishfella

Honda08 wrote: »

same goes for post 3 on this thread!!

what, Welcome to the world of Main Dealer ripp off prices. Enjoy the RIDE!

??????????????????????????:P
As Joyok rightly points out, the price you were charged seems about right but you seem uneasy about it?
If you used your noodle you would have gotten a quote or ask for a call to be put to you before fitting the pads or whatever that incurred the extra charging + labour/parts/vat etc.

Next time, use your loaf.:D
Nevermind coming on here smarting after you got a bill after going to a main dealers where you get the full blast retail treatment.

Honda08

niceirishfella wrote: »

what, Welcome to the world of Main Dealer ripp off prices. Enjoy the RIDE!

??????????????????????????:P
As Joyok rightly points out, the price you were charged seems about right but you seem uneasy about it?
If you used your noodle you would have gotten a quote or ask for a call to be put to you before fitting the pads or whatever that incurred the extra charging + labour/parts/vat etc.

Next time, use your loaf.:D
Nevermind coming on here smarting after you got a bill after going to a main dealers where you get the full blast retail treatment.

Joyok seems to think that that is a fair price... i asked for opinions.
i paid main dealer price, as i wanted car serviced properly, with correct equipment, and information. i didnt think that it was that expensive. was just asking what other peoples opinions were.

btw i was called, and advised that new pads were needed which i gave the ok for!

niceirishfella

Sure...no worries.

Honda08

niceirishfella wrote: »

Sure...no worries.

ok. no prob

niceirishfella

Honda08 wrote: »

ok. no prob

There never was a problem until you brought my mum into it:D:D:D:D:D

bazz26

Honda08 wrote: »

also be aware that the valve clearance checks , just found about it now need to be done at 40k km.. its part of the main service.. i read on here earlier that irish dealers dont do it..... ??

Just curious, are you posting under multiple names as you are the second poster to mention valve clearance checks on a 2007 Honda Accord Auto with 40,000km today?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57569736&postcount=9

Honda08

bazz26 wrote: »

Just curious, are you posting under multiple names as you are the second poster to mention valve clearance checks on a 2007 Honda Accord Auto with 40,000km today?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57569736&postcount=9

saw that post earlier, then fetched my manual for closer inspection. indeed it is mentioned in it. and it appears to be a time consuming job too.

pred racer

jayok wrote: »

Do you know this or are you just guessing this? If you didn't trust the main dealer why get it serviced by them?

I am not trying to defend rip-off merchants and I've no connection with the Motor trade, but I have always used Main Honda dealers to service the Honda's we've had. The prices seem fair to me and all invoices breakdown the actual work done. Our normal cost of service on the Civic / CRV / Stream was always around the €200 mark (€300 if sparks and brakes are in the mix).

In comparison for the BMW in the family, I've used an Indy as Main Dealers were just costing too much for comfort. The Indy still charges €400 for a Inspect I. This the cost of doing motoring. Main dealer prices are set by the Manufacturer. Take your €510:

VAT @ 13.5% = €60
Leaving €450

Labour say 3 hours @ €65 / hour = €195

Parts - which will include the following:

1. Oil
2. Oil Filter
3. Pollen Filter
4. Sparks
5. Possible Valve Clearance Checks
6. Rear brake pads
7. Misc items
8. Environment disposal

Total = €250.

Where is this rip-off?

If you want cheap servicing do it yourself. If you want cheaper servicing get an Indy.

Still sounds like a rip off to me..... apart from the valve clearance which I know nothing about, the rest of it would take an hour for a competent mechanic and use 100 quid of materials.
just my opinion for what its worth;)

leincar

I'm just back from my local VW main dealer. My Passat was in for its first service(30,000km).

I nearly passed away with delight as I came away with money in my wallet. €230 for a full service. Not to shabby methinks!

Stevie Dakota

leincar wrote: »

I'm just back from my local VW main dealer. My Passat was in for its first service(30,000km).

I nearly passed away with delight as I came away with money in my wallet. €230 for a full service. Not to shabby methinks!

First service is usually nothing more than an oil and filter change. €230 is still a rip off.

Plug

Some people are cribbing about the prices of main dealers, don't go then..... Have an indy service your car instead of a Honda specialist!
Breaking down the bill it doesn't seem bad and plus a manufacture service history is better than 'micks garage' stamped on your service book.

Any indy mechanics here? I bet there is and there telling everyone to avoid the 'rip off main dealers' and go indy, but I bet if you had the chance to change job to a main dealer ye'd be gone like a flash of lightning!

cashmni1

Plug wrote: »

Some people are cribbing about the prices of main dealers, don't go then..... Have an indy service your car instead of a Honda specialist!
Breaking down the bill it doesn't seem bad and plus a manufacture service history is better than 'micks garage' stamped on your service book.

Any indy mechanics here? I bet there is and there telling everyone to avoid the 'rip off main dealers' and go indy, but I bet if you had the chance to change job to a main dealer ye'd be gone like a flash of lightning!

Sorry there Plug, while I agree with you in the fact that people are cribbing about going to main dealers and paying the associated prices,9then don't go) I completely and utterly have to disagree with your last point.
I would honestly have less faith in a main dealer that my mechanic (he IS very good though). The main dealer will fix all warranty related issues and also any on board computer issues. For these reasons, and these reaons alone i would use a main dealer. Otherwise, I personally, just would not pay for the main dealers overheads.
i (just for the record) do not think that all main dealers are a rip off. I think EUR 510 for an accord main service and rear pads is about right, for a main dealer.
My man could have done it for half the price, but that's not the point here.
Anyway, main service, what is the big deal, if you know cars you should know what bulbs are gone, what tyres are bald, what rattles are there (or shouldn't be there) and you should be able to check your fluids.
if you are not confident in these areas, by all means use a main dealer, but an Indy will do the same job. Unless, of course, on board cpu or warranty issues need to be sorted.