RIP-OFF LOUGHREA BLOCKS LIDL and TESCO'S

A.F.M.

Scoobydo wrote: »

Actually saammy mcinerneys is the anchor tenant at the new shopping centre taking up the majority of the space. Aldi applyed and mcinerneys had the option to refuse it but didn't..as it was in the town boundry and aldi has a positive effect on supervula in gort. So there are no conditions about mcinerneys being allowed only as long as aldi are. don't know where you heard thatt from

Hi there Scooby Doo, You seem to know a lot about supervalue. I've gone through the past comments of yours, you seem to know details that no one else but a supervalue person would know. Are you management staff ? or Michael McInerney ?

You know supervalue pricing very well, a little too well. You know about the new development and that supervalue are the anchor. You say that supervalue had an option to refuse aldi but didn't. Who else would know that but management.

very suspect.

Scoobydo

A.F.M. wrote: »

Hi there Scooby Doo, You seem to know a lot about supervalue. I've gone through the past comments of yours, you seem to know details that no one else but a supervalue person would know. Are you management staff ? or Michael McInerney ?

You know supervalue pricing very well, a little too well. You know about the new development and that supervalue are the anchor. You say that supervalue had an option to refuse aldi but didn't. Who else would know that but management.

very suspect.

ya very suspect knowing that supervalu are the anchor when it clearly states it on the sign for the new shopping centre. Working in retail and happen to know a lot about pricing,marketing etc..Happen to know McInerneys had option to refuse through a friend who works in the store..as McInerneys are the main development if they refused to move because of aldi o'rouke would have lost a lot of money so gave supervalu the option.

Not very suspect when you think about it..very basic how I know.

But mainly from working in retail and shopping in McInerneys I know a lot about the store

A.F.M.

Scoobydo wrote: »

ya very suspect knowing that supervalu are the anchor when it clearly states it on the sign for the new shopping centre. Working in retail and happen to know a lot about pricing,marketing etc..Happen to know McInerneys had option to refuse through a friend who works in the store..as McInerneys are the main development if they refused to move because of aldi o'rouke would have lost a lot of money so gave supervalu the option.

Not very suspect when you think about it..very basic how I know.

But mainly from working in retail and shopping in McInerneys I know a lot about the store

Hi Scooby Doo, Thanks for the response.

I see said the blind man. Its not just about the new supermarket location, you seem to know what is (not) happening to the old building once it's closed.

You seem to be making a lot of supporting arguments for supervalue, a little more energy than the average punter would even bother doing. It's one thing to be involved in retail, it's another to be blowing the trumpet for supervalue.

You vigourously curb any negative comments with arguments for shopping in mcinverneys and stating how full of value it is. That does seem very strange to me. Its like your taking the comments of the supervalue critics personally. Thats what I find strange. Can you not see my point Scooby.

I haven't seen you say anything negative about the Mcinerneys pricing(maybe I've overlooked something) , and in fairness while Mcinerneys have good deals on certain things, the pricing of other items are expensive.

Hopefully aldi will provide some healthy competition. Its good for the customers. I can now shop for the best value from both shops. great.
Any idea on when the new supervalue store is to open ?

Scoobydo

A.F.M. wrote: »

Hi Scooby Doo, Thanks for the response.

I see said the blind man. Its not just about the new supermarket location, you seem to know what is (not) happening to the old building once it's closed.

You seem to be making a lot of supporting arguments for supervalue, a little more energy than the average punter would even bother doing. It's one thing to be involved in retail, it's another to be blowing the trumpet for supervalue.

You vigourously curb any negative comments with arguments for shopping in mcinverneys and stating how full of value it is. That does seem very strange to me. Its like your taking the comments of the supervalue critics personally. Thats what I find strange. Can you not see my point Scooby.

I haven't seen you say anything negative about the Mcinerneys pricing(maybe I've overlooked something) , and in fairness while Mcinerneys have good deals on certain things, the pricing of other items are expensive.

Hopefully aldi will provide some healthy competition. Its good for the customers. I can now shop for the best value from both shops. great.
Any idea on when the new supervalue store is to open ?

The new store will open in the autumn..and this isn't proving your theory that im apart of supervalu..it clearly states it on the sign!

Supervalu offer so much more than aldi..15000 goods versus less than 7000 in aldi..im nearly certain that was the last figures. Supervalu offer the best value on branded goods (NCA Reports)..excellent hygiene and you feel comfortable in their stores..unlike the rushed feeling you experience in aldi stores.

You can't pick up the majority of food products in aldi that supervalu offer..its way too basic in my opinion.

Aldi won't offer a great deal of competition..they will just stop people like yourself from leaving loughrea to shop in gort or portumna. People like supervalu..apart from a few exceptions on this site..but the success of McInerneys opening one of the countries largest stores proves they are liked.

Aldi offer 12 pack pedigree dogs cans for 8.79 (that includes 2 extra free)..but Supervalu offer a six pack for 3.79..do the maths aldi arent that great in my opinion. Despite introducing a few brands they are still pretty poor.

Thanks for replying though

IronMan

Listen Scoobydo, come clean and admit who you are. Listen to what is being said here, and defend your business. Pretending to be an impartial observer, whilst knowing how many products your local supermarket stocks just makes you look silly.

I visit Loughrea from time to time. I find the SuperValue to be outrageously priced. My relations who live in the Loughrea hinterland, all visit one of the German discounters at least every two weeks. They are cheaper. They do not stock the same range of brands, but in these times, quality is more important than brand loyalty.

Scoobydo

IronMan wrote: »

Listen Scoobydo, come clean and admit who you are. Listen to what is being said here, and defend your business. Pretending to be an impartial observer, whilst knowing how many products your local supermarket stocks just makes you look silly.

I visit Loughrea from time to time. I find the SuperValue to be outrageously priced. My relations who live in the Loughrea hinterland, all visit one of the German discounters at least every two weeks. They are cheaper. They do not stock the same range of brands, but in these times, quality is more important than brand loyalty.

No the average store stocks 15000-17000 porducts, pretty common fact if you work in retail. Stores like Aldi,Lidl....stock less than half that amount of products.

Now get this tiny little fact into your head IM NOT PART OF SUPERVALU..I never was and hopefully never will be!

Michael McInerney seems pretty ok from shopping there..but i certainly wouldnt like to be him and I amn't Mr Iron Man..:)

Brouhaha

This thread seems to be two seperate arguments:

1. Supervalu is considered expensive due to lack of competition - they are moving into a new place beside an Aldi in the Autumn, pick whichever ye want to shop in, or visit both, problem solved

2. Loughrea is anti-competitive - people have blamed the Chamber of Commerce for somehow blocking competition or, as the poll says, not actively going out to attact competition as if that's their function. There are empty units around the town, open a shop in competition to any existing shop and you won't be stopped, in fact you'll find the Chamber of Commerce to be helpful

For what it's worth I shop in Graces (Londis), quiter so faster

A.F.M.

IronMan wrote: »

Listen Scoobydo, come clean and admit who you are. Listen to what is being said here, and defend your business. Pretending to be an impartial observer, whilst knowing how many products your local supermarket stocks just makes you look silly.

I visit Loughrea from time to time. I find the SuperValue to be outrageously priced. My relations who live in the Loughrea hinterland, all visit one of the German discounters at least every two weeks. They are cheaper. They do not stock the same range of brands, but in these times, quality is more important than brand loyalty.

Got to agree with you there Iron Man.

Brand loyalty aka blind loyalty. All the food brands stocked in Lidl and Aldi are of very high quality, equal to if not in some cases better that some of the brands we're so used to here in Ireland. Bought a packet of battered cod in there last week. They were so delicious I bought two packets in this weeks shopping.

Lidl and Aldi are also starting to supply recognised brands at very good value.

I noticed that Supervalue are posting ads about once a week to my house advertising all their reductions in price. The pressure is on to reduce prices to Lidl and Aldi prices. Plus their pushing this 'Real Rewards' scheme to gain some customer loyalty.

At the end of the day you can't beat value for money. Can't wait for Aldi to come to the town.

A.F.M.

Brouhaha wrote: »

This thread seems to be two seperate arguments:

1. Supervalu is considered expensive due to lack of competition - they are moving into a new place beside an Aldi in the Autumn, pick whichever ye want to shop in, or visit both, problem solved

2. Loughrea is anti-competitive - people have blamed the Chamber of Commerce for somehow blocking competition or, as the poll says, not actively going out to attact competition as if that's their function. There are empty units around the town, open a shop in competition to any existing shop and you won't be stopped, in fact you'll find the Chamber of Commerce to be helpful

For what it's worth I shop in Graces (Londis), quiter so faster

Who's on the Chamber of Commerce ???

A.F.M.

Scoobydo wrote: »

No the average store stocks 15000-17000 porducts, pretty common fact if you work in retail. Stores like Aldi,Lidl....stock less than half that amount of products.

Now get this tiny little fact into your head IM NOT PART OF SUPERVALU..I never was and hopefully never will be!

Michael McInerney seems pretty ok from shopping there..but i certainly wouldnt like to be him and I amn't Mr Iron Man..:)

McInerney.
Yeah....I do see him in the shop from time to time, or when ever he decides to fall out of bed and into work. Sorry wouldn't like to be him either Scooby Doo.
He looks like a bit of a tool......Kinda geeky-like.:p

A.F.M.

Scoobydo wrote: »

The new store will open in the autumn..and this isn't proving your theory that im apart of supervalu..it clearly states it on the sign!

Supervalu offer so much more than aldi..15000 goods versus less than 7000 in aldi..im nearly certain that was the last figures. Supervalu offer the best value on branded goods (NCA Reports)..excellent hygiene and you feel comfortable in their stores..unlike the rushed feeling you experience in aldi stores.

You can't pick up the majority of food products in aldi that supervalu offer..its way too basic in my opinion.

Aldi won't offer a great deal of competition..they will just stop people like yourself from leaving loughrea to shop in gort or portumna. People like supervalu..apart from a few exceptions on this site..but the success of McInerneys opening one of the countries largest stores proves they are liked.

Aldi offer 12 pack pedigree dogs cans for 8.79 (that includes 2 extra free)..but Supervalu offer a six pack for 3.79..do the maths aldi arent that great in my opinion. Despite introducing a few brands they are still pretty poor.

Thanks for replying though

Sorry Scooby but I don't eat dog food. I shop for value human food for myself and my family. If Dogs are stupid enough to pay for cans of crap then let them off.

Want a scooby snack ?

Scoobydo

A.F.M. wrote: »

Sorry Scooby but I don't eat dog food. I shop for value human food for myself and my family. If Dogs are stupid enough to pay for cans of crap then let them off.

Want a scooby snack ?

I was giving an indication of the prices between the two and making a point that lidl arent really cheap for everything. People who have dog might like to know that! I shop for value aswell..but more importantly quality in my opinion. If I have to pay an extra bit for my food I honestly couldn't care as I can enjoy it!

You want cheap crap thats up to you!

Scoobydo

A.F.M. wrote: »

Got to agree with you there Iron Man.

Brand loyalty aka blind loyalty. All the food brands stocked in Lidl and Aldi are of very high quality, equal to if not in some cases better that some of the brands we're so used to here in Ireland. Bought a packet of battered cod in there last week. They were so delicious I bought two packets in this weeks shopping.

Lidl and Aldi are also starting to supply recognised brands at very good value.

I noticed that Supervalue are posting ads about once a week to my house advertising all their reductions in price. The pressure is on to reduce prices to Lidl and Aldi prices. Plus their pushing this 'Real Rewards' scheme to gain some customer loyalty.

At the end of the day you can't beat value for money. Can't wait for Aldi to come to the town.

Supervalu real rewards is a loyalty scheme to thank customers for their support. I visited aldi two weeks ago..they had 3 types of larger,some weird can,poor wines,a terrible selection throughtout an extremely basic,unfriendly store. Do you honestly think they will pose major competition to a well established shop in the town.

Supervalu is the only store lowering prices while still strongly supporting IRISH BRANDS,IRISH JOBS. Who do you support..the Germans! Although Tesco proved to lower more prices..their range of price cuts tended to be unrelated to your everyday/weekly shop..more unessential items, and they used the English market to get cheaper goods..making Irish people lose jobs..

At the end of the day when you look at it Supervalu proves to be Irelands largest grocery group..offering the most support to Irish jobs,Irish brands and providing the best possible value in the process.

If it makes you happy not to support other Irish people then use Aldi when it arrives to Loughrea..McInerneys recently achieved regional store of the year..and Im sure they will continue to fight for their customers as much as their reputation in the town.

And once again Im not Michael Mc. I simply work for Musgraves SVC and shop in McInerneys on a regular basis and will continue to do so!

airhorn

Scoobydoo

Hows John Higgins keeping ? ( previous owner of supervalue in Gort )

I remember the little feker sold up at the first mention of Aldi coming to Gort.

Head The Wall

Scoobydo wrote: »

Supervalu is the only store lowering prices

Aldi and Lidl don't have to lower prices as they weren't overcharging like the rest of the retailers here.

I'll second what others have said about the quality of the food stuffs from Aldi & Lidl. Not everything is going to suit everyone but the same can be said for recognised brands from Supervalu and the like.

You must be shagging McInerneys daughter or the like with the defending you're doing on here. There's no way you have no association with them.

This is the kind of crap that would make the likes of me not shop there for that reason alone

Head

RANIA

ooh i hate supevalu in loughrea.nothing against supervalu only its dear but a certain manager was so ignorant to me and my baby once,i swore no more.can't wait for aldi, i drive to gort every week rather than hand over my money to mcinerneny,scooby def is him,so full of crap,wow they even brought back bag packers in an effort to lure deperate shoppers in.
when is aldi going to open?
what other shops will bet here-apart from scoobys shop?

Catherine M

A frequent visitor to Loughrea, I have recently heard that Lidl is coming to town, not far from the soon to be opened Aldi and McInernernys. Can anyone shed any light on this please?

mockler007

i have an answers to all your questions, dont live in crappy towns, if you want it all live in a city, blowins dont have a say, your there a wet week and ur already rearranging the views, everywhere you goy in this country you have 20 years behind ppl, move to dublin, where we have tescos on every corner, its a tesco wonderland, rememmber they know what you have for brekfast!

Catherine M

What??!!

iamthemanwork

Looks like Mockler007 has an attitude problem.

hoody

mockler007 wrote: »

i have an answers to all your questions, dont live in crappy towns, if you want it all live in a city, blowins dont have a say, your there a wet week and ur already rearranging the views, everywhere you goy in this country you have 20 years behind ppl, move to dublin, where we have tescos on every corner, its a tesco wonderland, rememmber they know what you have for brekfast!

Run down to Tesco and buy a dictionary for yourself, then come back to us when you understand how to write in English. And Dublin is by far and away the crappiest town in the country imo.

Scoobydo

No Lidl is not coming to the town. Just Aldi. But according to a survey on RTE yesterday supervalu proved cheaper on an essential basket of everyday goods versus Aldi.

Scoobydo

This survey going on that Loughrea is anti-competitive is rubbish. Although Aldi is coming it was proved an essential basket of goods is cheaper in Supervalu versus Aldi.(The Afternoon Show-supported by the NCA).

Supervalu is part of Irelands largest grocery group but unlike Tesco an international retail giant their stores are independently owned. Supervalu lowered over 3000 significant price cuts..over 230 million on an annual 2.5 billion profit. But Tesco advertise their price cuts with 1 or 2 euros knocked off..the rest are a couple of cent..if even. At least Supervalu offer true price cuts and give the comsumer want they want. This may support why Supervalu is Irelands largest growing retailer capturing the market at a rapid pace.

People in this town against McInerney's need to realise that Ireland is an expensive place..Supervalu offers true competition in the Irish market which reflects in their current market share and constant increasing profits.

Londis is extremely expensive..as in Spar, Superquinn, Mace, Eurospar. 1.Tesco
2.Dunnes
3.SuperValu:
are not expensive stores. Supervalu promotes local communities to come together.. what does Tesco do?

Dunnes slogan 'The Difference is We're Irish' versus Supervalu sourcing 75% of all goods in Ireland pushing over 2 billion into the national economy each year. It is the only store sourcing this amount of Irish products. Aldi source just under 40%.

'SuperValu is providing real competition to other retailers in Ireland with great promotions and everyday low prices'-NCA REPORT. Thats a fact not my opinion.

So get your facts together before putting down a local, thriving business.

biko

Link to this survey?

Scoobydo

A.F.M. wrote: »

Got to agree with you there Iron Man.

Brand loyalty aka blind loyalty. All the food brands stocked in Lidl and Aldi are of very high quality, equal to if not in some cases better that some of the brands we're so used to here in Ireland. Bought a packet of battered cod in there last week. They were so delicious I bought two packets in this weeks shopping.

Lidl and Aldi are also starting to supply recognised brands at very good value.

I noticed that Supervalue are posting ads about once a week to my house advertising all their reductions in price. The pressure is on to reduce prices to Lidl and Aldi prices. Plus their pushing this 'Real Rewards' scheme to gain some customer loyalty.

At the end of the day you can't beat value for money. Can't wait for Aldi to come to the town.

Right thats it, McInerneys own the site of the new shopping centre and they are the anchor..they allowed aldi in because Monaghans SuperValu in Gort noticed increased sales when an Aldi opened over there because more people came to the town. SuperValu isnt moving in beside Aldi...Aldi were asked to move in beside SuperValu. Just get it right

Remember...SUPPORT IRISH!

IronMan

Survey from the afternoon show is available here:

http://www.rte.ie/tv/theafternoonshow/2009/0908/consumer764.html

Shows SuperValue to be the second most expensive on a basket of essential goods, with Tesco being the cheapest. It is hardly the most scientific of surveys. I personally find the quality of the goods in Aldi to be far superior to the Tesco Value equivalents which were used in the survey.

RANIA

the cheap own brand stuff in supervalu is inedible.its just that cheap.the stuff in aldi is actually good quality.
so when will aldi be open?save me driving to gort every week!

airhorn

Scoobydo wrote: »

Right thats it, McInerneys own the site of the new shopping centre and they are the anchor..they allowed aldi in because Monaghans SuperValu in Gort noticed increased sales when an Aldi opened over there because more people came to the town. SuperValu isnt moving in beside Aldi...Aldi were asked to move in beside SuperValu. Just get it right

Remember...SUPPORT IRISH!

Its Minihane's SuperValue Gort not Monaghans ! To be fair McInerney i thought even you would've known that.

Anyways it was John Higgins that owned Supervalue in Gort when Aldi moved in, within in 3 months of them moving in, he sold up & moved on, so that argument of increased sales is bollix,

Now the current owners of SuperValue in Gort is Minihanes & there is rumours circulating at the moment of him letting go staff.

So i dont know where you heard the increased sales trash.

mikom

Scoobydo wrote: »

Remember...SUPPORT IRISH!

Mmmmmmmmmmm Listeria.......... Musgraves has announced it is recalling some of its pre-cooked ham from some Super Valu and Centra stores.Rudd Fine Foods have notified the company of the possible presence of Listeria in three products that it supplies to the company.

http://news.ie.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=149537449

Scoobydo

airhorn wrote: »

Its Minihane's SuperValue Gort not Monaghans ! To be fair McInerney i thought even you would've known that.

Anyways it was John Higgins that owned Supervalue in Gort when Aldi moved in, within in 3 months of them moving in, he sold up & moved on, so that argument of increased sales is bollix,

Now the current owners of SuperValue in Gort is Minihanes & there is rumours circulating at the moment of him letting go staff.

So i dont know where you heard the increased sales trash.

Once again Im not Michael McInerney..and sales did increase in Gort. Why would Michael McInerney, owner of the site, member of the Loughrea Chamber of Commerce let them in otherwise?

soundbyte

Scoobydo wrote: »

Why would Michael McInerney, owner of the site, member of the Loughrea Chamber of Commerce let them in otherwise?

Because the bank, the real owner of the site, expect him to repay the loan?

airhorn

soundbyte wrote: »

Because the bank, the real owner of the site, expect him to repay the loan?

Well said soundbyte, well said.....


& Scoobydoo would you mind telling me how you know the sales increased in SuperValue in Gort, let me remind you again that Higgins sold up months after Aldi came on the scene, & the current owner is currently cutting back on staff...

Scoobydo

airhorn wrote: »

Well said soundbyte, well said.....


& Scoobydoo would you mind telling me how you know the sales increased in SuperValue in Gort, let me remind you again that Higgins sold up months after Aldi came on the scene, & the current owner is currently cutting back on staff...

How do you know the bank are the real owners of the site?Have you been in McInerneys..you can hardly move at times with the amount of customers?Not only that but they are offering the town 160 jobs..probably more when the new shop opens..how many do aldi offer??

SuperValu is not Irelands largest retail group because of high prices..they offer brilliant offers, exceptionally clean and well run stores in all 192 of them. And with a further 3000 price cuts they will continue to grow.

Im currently in Retail Management and I see no problems with SuperValu. Aldi offer no help, poor layout and selection, imported goods, bad atmospherics in their stores, and I personally don't like their foods.

Their prices being slightly cheaper reflect in the way they stack their goods. But once again the basics are the same price. SuperValu Bread 0.55, SuperValu 2L Milk 1.49, SuperValu 80 Teabags 0.60...and the same in Aldi.

mikom

Scoobydo wrote: »

bad atmospherics in their stores,

Scan, it's a shop for god sake, not a weather system.

Scoobydo

mikom wrote: »

Scan, it's a shop for god sake, not a weather system.

No thats a common retail expression..different shops use different atmospherics to try to and make the customers like the particular shop..lighting, colour, layout, displays, music etc..Aldi do not put a great deal of effort into this which reflects in their extremely basic stores..but they say this contributes to low prices?Not so on the basic goods, but you pay for brand quality in other stores like Tesco and Dunnes.

Ithaca

Resurecting this thread as there was a very good series in The Irish Times recently about the destruction of some town centres in Ireland (link below).

http://www.irishtimes.com/indepth/uptowndowntown/

There are a variety of reasons given like the loss of industry and the downturn (both of which affect Loughrea) but out-of-town shopping centres with hypermarkets like Tesco are also cited as major causes of town centres dieing.

I think we have a vibrant town centre which we should protect and support where we can. The planners got the decision to turn down Tesco right in my opinion.