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the Austrain car crash

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  • 15-10-2008 6:22pm
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    x in the city
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    Right, It is a shame how this young man was allowed to leave a nite club and go driving home after drinking, but he was said to have crashed at 88mph...in a luxury Volkswagen phaeton. which had about 30 airbags one would assume.

    The car rolled several times but I am a bit surprised he managed to get mangled so much in such a safe car as this...? does 88mph in a car like this seem not such a high speed... as say 88mph in an escort for instance.


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    Volvoboy
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    x in the city wrote: »
    Right, It is a shame how this young man was allowed to leave a nite club and go driving home after drinking, but he was said to have crashed at 88mph...in a luxury Volkswagen phaeton. which had about 30 airbags one would assume.

    The car rolled several times but I am a bit surprised he managed to get mangled so much in such a safe car as this...? does 88mph in a car like this seem not such a high speed... as say 88mph in an escort for instance.

    I'm in a Escort once a week and i feel safe.


    Wahhey!

    True that your safer in a modern barge as apposed to a 90's bread and butter mobile.

    Safest thing to do is not drive when your rat arsed.


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    BoardsRanger
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    I was also suprised tp hear the phaeton was so easily mangled but then again if you hit anything solid at 88mph regardless of the quality of car- your more than likely not going to survive it.


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    homer90
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    Any links ??


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    Mena
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    Er, what are we talking about? Any link to a story or something?


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    x in the city
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    Its all over the news sites, BBC etc..


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    BoardsRanger
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27196466/ or http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7671885.stm


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    Robbo
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    Mena wrote: »
    Er, what are we talking about? Any link to a story or something?
    The fatal car crash involving Austrian arch-fascist Jorg Haider.


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    Mena
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    Robbo wrote: »
    The fatal car crash involving Austrian arch-fascist Jorg Haider.

    Hmm, it appears I'm the only non mind reader here then :(


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    Alanstrainor
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    tbh, the forces involved in a crash at that speed are insane, no matter how many airbags or how big the car is, there was always going to be carnage.


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    mike65
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    heh! Glad his fat arsed car didn't save him.

    Mike


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    dr.bollocko
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    Maybe he just hit 88 mph and that sent him back to 1955. If only he want back 12 or 13 years he might have had Hitler's backing to get the 1.21 gigawatts of power necessary to get him back here.


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    Alun
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    x in the city wrote: »
    Right, It is a shame how this young man was allowed to leave a nite club and go driving home after drinking, ...
    Young? He was 58! And not really a shame at all, considering who he was to be honest.


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    Anan1
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    Mena wrote: »
    Hmm, it appears I'm the only non mind reader here then :(
    Non newspaper reader, you mean.;)

    From looking at the pics, the car appears to have suffered a heavy impact to the roof just above the driver. I don't usually have time for the whole gloating when people die thing, but I have to admit we're better off without him.


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    rabbitinlights
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    Its not a rally car, its a saloon that flipped in a city environment at 88mph. Not really surprising.


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    x in the city
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    hmmm 58 is old now is it...


    :rolleyes:


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    Tipsy Mac
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    There's few people who survive crashes over 50mph, regardless of car.


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    dr.bollocko
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    x in the city wrote: »
    hmmm 58 is old now is it...


    :rolleyes:

    Yeah. Yeah it is.
    As opposed to young, for example.


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    peasant
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    Speed actually does kill !

    Especially when you hit a solid object and/or flip the car few times.


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    Redpunto
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    I'd say he had a fair few enemies,,,,maybe it was set up for him to get drunk and drive fast and have a nasty accident :rolleyes:


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    (CH3)2CHOH
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    It was probably a plot by Mi5, using special flashguns on camera's or something.


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    Raiser
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    Crash was caused by drinking and driving - not sure what caused his championing of the policies and actions of the Third Reich...... [?]

    Planet Earth is well rid of a creepy Nazi who collected votes from lots of creepy Nazis.


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    KTRIC
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    He was Nazi scum that deserved a horrific death


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    cantdecide
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    Euro ncap ratings are usually based on a 40mph collision AFAIK. The little 'uns are always prasied for their good result but I must say I think that any greater speeds than that, I'd prefer more substance- you can't tell me a Yaris would fare any better


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    DonJose
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    When there is a fatality on Irish roads do they take a blood sample to see if the driver was over the limit?


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    Alanstrainor
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    cantdecide wrote: »
    Euro ncap ratings are usually based on a 40mph collision AFAIK. The little 'uns are always prasied for their good result but I must say I think that any greater speeds than that, I'd prefer more substance- you can't tell me a Yaris would fare any better

    Always find this clip amazing.
    Smart car.
    +70mph
    +brick wall
    =
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJHpUO-S0i8


    Not that you'd survive, the car might be alright, but you'd probably be dead...


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    dr.bollocko
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    Alanstrainor wrote: »
    Smart car.
    +70mph
    Does not compute. Does not compute. Does not compute.


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    Guy:Incognito
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    cantdecide wrote: »
    Euro ncap ratings are usually based on a 40mph collision AFAIK. The little 'uns are always prasied for their good result but I must say I think that any greater speeds than that, I'd prefer more substance- you can't tell me a Yaris would fare any better

    It cant fare any worse than dead either though.


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    peasant
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    It doesn't really matter how well your car withstands the sudden deceleration from very fast to zero ...it's your body that crumbles


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    BoardsRanger
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    peasant wrote: »
    It doesn't really matter how well your car withstands the sudden deceleration from very fast to zero ...it's your body that crumbles
    Unless your exceptionally fit and your in a F1 car. i think there has been some 75mph-0 impacts. Schumacher's crash at silverstone in 99 was over 60mph-0 impact.


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    dr.bollocko
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    BoardsRanger wrote: »
    Unless your exceptionally fit and your in a F1 car. i think there has been some 75mph-0 impacts. Schumacher's crash at silverstone in 99 was over 60mph-0 impact.

    This is true. And those cars are built with a huge degree of safety in mind.
    The cockpits are basically life capsules for the driver in the event of a high speed collision, they have to be strapped in. Think about the decades of tragedies that went before it and have a look at the safety regulations imposed on the cars too. Still hard to imagine Nigel Mansell at the end of his career being as safe as someone the build of Lewis Hamilton though:pac:


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