Easons Rip-off - What's their returns policy?

luap_42

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Seriously these types of posts are starting to annoy me.

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Look these threads are fast getting old Rip off Ireland needs to dry up. Seriously if you dont like it anymore fook off and move to a country that is cheaper and then moan about that country, when you find your wages are lower or the cost of living for the wage you are getting is still too fooking high. Jebus Ireland has become a seriously moany country.

If you think Easons is too expensive or Tesco or Dunnes or whoever well I have a solution for you dont fooking go there anymore :rolleyes:

Sorry for the rant lol

If you don't like to read about people moaning about being ripped off, then don't bother reading or posting. You should take your own advice regarding fooking off and moving with respect to this thread.

Regarding being ripped off. I recently purchased attic boards and battens for my loft. My local hardware store is an Arro franchise and were charging €14.60 per 8x2ft board. I shopped around and bought 100% identical boards in a different hardware store for €8.50 per board.

As far as I'm concerned this warrants discussion, and I don't care whether you or anyone else likes it or not. I will discuss this to death, here, in the pub anywhere and everywhere. If it puts cnuts like the above, Aer Lingus, Easons and anyone else who rips off out of business, then and only then I'll shut up.

rubadub

jor el wrote: »

But you weren't charged double the RRP. You said the price on the book is £21.99 which is close to €30 (not the €28.40 on xe.com). You paid €38, so that's €8 more than RRP. The difference in VAT accounts for some of this, as will the extra costs associated with a bricks n mortar shop over an online only shop.

The much cheaper price online is better, but Easons price is not a rip off.

The €8 more is €8 more than the RRP in a different country. For all we know easons were selling well below the Irish RRP. Computer software is priced very differently in the likes of China since piracy dictates the price. Vat aside, economies of scale, delivery costs, market demand and willingness to pay dictates prices hugely in countries. It is ridiculous to expect people to just convert currency rates around the world. The main aim of a business is to make a profit.

rosboy wrote: »

I went in to the bricks and mortar store because I wanted to check out the book before I bought it. I wanted to get a feel for its layout. I spent a good 25 minutes in the shop going through the different Photoshop books to decide on the one I wanted.

They provided a good service, 25mins with all the overheads etc paid for, nicely heated & well lit place! Some people knowingly pay over the odds for this, so shops like this can survive. PC places have to deal with ignorant (unknowledgeable) people all the time and can spend 30mins figuring out what they really need, looking at their laptop etc, they make a sale and the guy moans at being charged €10 more than online. The guy in the shop and overheads cost more than that!

rosboy wrote: »

When I was happy, I purchased it....

When I got home, I again flicked through the book and was very happy with my purchase....

That says it all, you presumable thought it was good value, nothing underhanded went on. It was not like you got home and opened it to find it was crap.

I got a pair of jeans reduced from €80 (RRP) to €45 in the sales, in the states the RRP is around €35, I do not think I was "ripped off". I was able to try on several pairs to see which fit best, and I understand things cost different amounts in different countries, learnt that when I was around 6 on holidays.

jahalpin

luap_42 wrote: »

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

VAT can only account for 13.5% difference. There is only one VAT rate for magazines and newspapers bought from Easons.

Currency difference for the past six months between 0% and 20%. I've beaten bank rates rates myself significantly by using a currency exchange specialist, so you can be sure Eason's get the best price possible.

UK price printed on December 2008 The Word magazine: GB£4.99, Eason's price: €9.98.

This leaves distribution costs and profit more than 65% per item when this magazine was purchased in December. You absolutely must be joking. And it has nothing to do with waiting for currencies to stabilise. When the currency changes in the opposite direction, they increase the prices almost instantaneously.

It is almost certain that Eason's themselves are taking advantage of their virtual monopoly in this market, hence the title of this thread. They are a rip-off merchant with a stranglehold on the market, possibly in league with a distributer. They are not alone either: Aer Lingus did exactly the same when they owned the market. Now look at them, exactly where they deserve to be.

Read the entire thread and posts before replying with incorrect information. And why are you trying to defend the indefensible anyway? Do you have an interest in Easons?

There are 3 different rates on news items in ROI, 0%, 13.5% and 21.5%. Partworks and similar items are charged 21.5% VAT. Unlike some people, I actually know what I am talking about!!

Most large companies buy currency contracts months in advance at a rate set at the time. The prices have come down a lot in the last month or so.

The cost of doing business in ROI is far higher than in the UK. Wholesale purchase prices are based on the RRP less a certain percentage.

Out of this percentage costs such as distribution, administration and disposal must be paid. The population density in ROI is very low and this means it is very expensive to distribute products.

At present there are 2 large news distribution companies in Ireland. Due to the small population, it is highly unlikely that any other company would be interested in operating here.

tallaghtoutlaws

luap_42 wrote: »

If you don't like to read about people moaning about being ripped off, then don't bother reading or posting. You should take your own advice regarding fooking off and moving with respect to this thread.

Regarding being ripped off. I recently purchased attic boards and battens for my loft. My local hardware store is an Arro franchise and were charging €14.60 per 8x2ft board. I shopped around and bought 100% identical boards in a different hardware store for €8.50 per board.

As far as I'm concerned this warrants discussion, and I don't care whether you or anyone else likes it or not. I will discuss this to death, here, in the pub anywhere and everywhere. If it puts cnuts like the above, Aer Lingus, Easons and anyone else who rips off out of business, then and only then I'll shut up.

Hold on a second this thread originally started off becuase the OP bought a book not a magazine or anything like that. The op bought a book in Easons then found it cheaper online and now is complaining. So yes I am sick of these threads and still have the right to my opinion. Simple fooking fact the OP was not ripped off. He could have used those legs of his/hers and walked out of easons and not bought the book. He was not ripped off by Easons. This thread then slowly became an Easons bashing thread. Not that I work for them but for books they are clearly not the cheapist. Now if the OP had said magazines that would have been different in some ways but he didnt.

Also yes I buy my magazines online straight from the publishers as most of my magazines ae sports mags from the US <

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This is aimed at whoever earlier in the thread was trying to make me look stupid and try catch me out.

So luap_42 before quoting me simply get your argument straight the next time.

julien69

Shut up all of you.I own Easons,my name is John Eason.If you dont like my shops go somewhere else.We have a monopoly on the Irish market so we will charge what we want,the consumer does not come into it.

MOH

julien69 wrote: »

Shut up all of you.I own Easons,my name is John Eason.If you dont like my shops go somewhere else.We have a monopoly on the Irish market so we will charge what we want,the consumer does not come into it.

Hi John, how's the coaching going?

julien69

Oops didnt realise i was black;)

axer

I have to agree with tallaghtoutlaws here. So many stupidly cry rip off when they have a choice. If someone who had a choice paid over the odds for an item that they could have gotten cheaper somewhere else then they have to realise that they are the ones that are feeding the high-price monster that Ireland is.

It is only rip off if you dont have a choice or if the seller did not uphold their side of the bargain (e.g. doesnt do what its supposed to, not as good as claimed to be but those situations are covered by law).

luap_42

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Hold on a second this thread originally started off becuase the OP bought a book not a magazine or anything like that. The op bought a book in Easons then found it cheaper online and now is complaining. So yes I am sick of these threads and still have the right to my opinion. Simple fooking fact the OP was not ripped off. He could have used those legs of his/hers and walked out of easons and not bought the book. He was not ripped off by Easons. This thread then slowly became an Easons bashing thread. Not that I work for them but for books they are clearly not the cheapist. Now if the OP had said magazines that would have been different in some ways but he didnt.

Also yes I buy my magazines online straight from the publishers as most of my magazines ae sports mags from the US <

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This is aimed at whoever earlier in the thread was trying to make me look stupid and try catch me out.

So luap_42 before quoting me simply get your argument straight the next time.

Point taken about the changing thread.

re: magazines, not all magazine are available direct, and often you have to pay through the nose for delivery from overseas, which relates to my original point, when the distributor and monopoly retailer are importing in bulk they incur much lower transportation costs per item than you or me, and yet they still charge far more per item than buying direct. No matter what way you cut it there is no excuse for Eason's exorbitant prices on magazines.

pcardin

There is no reason to shop at Eason!

Emerald Lass

used to work at Eason many moons ago and actually my section was originally the computer books section. At the time these books did not come through the standard distributer, but had to be ordered via Gardners wholesalers. They all came from US/UK. As a result they were bought in smaller qualtities (from store to store, rather than through the main Easons distribution centre) and as a result Easons couldn't get them at very good prices. At the time IT books were not as accessible as now, and this was apparently the only option available to Eason if they wanted to stock the books. We were given a standard mark up percentage per book and when a comp book came in automatically added x% to the sterling/dollar price.

so that might explain the price difference if they still employ the same procedure.

Having said that if 10+ years on they haven't sourced a new supplier they are idiots. More likely they have got a new supplier but not revisited their pricing procedure.

luap_42

Emerald Lass wrote: »

used to work at Eason many moons ago and actually my section was originally the computer books section. At the time these books did not come through the standard distributer, but had to be ordered via Gardners wholesalers. They all came from US/UK. As a result they were bought in smaller qualtities (from store to store, rather than through the main Easons distribution centre) and as a result Easons couldn't get them at very good prices. At the time IT books were not as accessible as now, and this was apparently the only option available to Eason if they wanted to stock the books. We were given a standard mark up percentage per book and when a comp book came in automatically added x% to the sterling/dollar price.

so that might explain the price difference if they still employ the same procedure.

Having said that if 10+ years on they haven't sourced a new supplier they are idiots. More likely they have got a new supplier but not revisited their pricing procedure.

I would say you've probably hit hte nail on the head, but no matter, they are still ripping people off. I wouldn't give Eason's the steam off my p^&*.

luap_42

jahalpin wrote: »

There are 3 different rates on news items in ROI, 0%, 13.5% and 21.5%. Partworks and similar items are charged 21.5% VAT. Unlike some people, I actually know what I am talking about!!

Most large companies buy currency contracts months in advance at a rate set at the time. The prices have come down a lot in the last month or so.

The cost of doing business in ROI is far higher than in the UK. Wholesale purchase prices are based on the RRP less a certain percentage.

Out of this percentage costs such as distribution, administration and disposal must be paid. The population density in ROI is very low and this means it is very expensive to distribute products.

At present there are 2 large news distribution companies in Ireland. Due to the small population, it is highly unlikely that any other company would be interested in operating here.

Like I already said, there is only one rate of VAT applicable to books and magazines, 13.5%. Why are you trying to suggest otherwise? Trying to confuse the issue? Interest in Easons or their distributors? You can check VAT rates on the revenue website, it is not rocket science, I am VAT registered myself.

Your point about currency contracts are completely and utterly irrelevant. Easons will increase their prices quick smart when sterling goes high, but never reduce their price when the opposite happens, therefore they are RIPPING OFF consumers on currency differences. What do you not understand about this?

Your point about the cost of business in Ireland is true, but after removing 13.5% VAT difference, calculating currency difference(10-15%), does not give anywhere remotely near the 100% markup between the UK and Irish prices. Any business in ireland charging double the UK price is RIPPING OFF Irish consumers, as Eason's is, has done and will continue to do until people stop shopping there.

My only question to you is why are you trying to defend a blatant and very obvious RIP OFF merchant?

dudara

Thread closed, as it is veering towards Rip Off Ireland territory rather than a genuine Consumer Issue.

dudara