Being overtaken when doing the speed limit

JB04

ClioV6 wrote: »

2 points in exchange for getting on my own side of road quicker and not risking a crash is 2 points I could live with.

If you need to exceed the speed limit to overtake, then you shouldn't be overtaking.

SV

JB04 wrote: »

If you need to exceed the speed limit to overtake, then you shouldn't be overtaking.

That's not up to you to decide what I should be doing on the road.


oh and if you're going 90km/h on a 100km/h road and I can only overtake at 10km/h rate and have to overtake a truck..

well you do the math there. :rolleyes:

Overheal

"and while we're at it we should just leave it up to people to wear seat belts, screw the law! Theyre only guidelines anyway."

h_baby

Okay, first of all I am a BMW driver and I consider myself a good driver but not the best and not the most dangerous.

I like to overtake - I prefer to see the road ahead of me instead of the rear end of a transit van (which we also own) but I chose my moments to overtake.

I overtake if its clear ahead
If it's safe for me to pull in
If its not too wet as my car is a rear wheel drive and doesn't always like wet roads despite the fancy traction control

HOWEVER, overtaking, in correct conditions, is not dangerous. It shouldn't annoy people. If someone is overtaking, take your foot off the accellerator and let them by, carry on with your life and let them off with theirs!

Speeding up when you see someone overtaking is DANGEROUS!!!
If you stop someone from getting back in lane after overtaking, you are as guilty as them if an accident is caused!!!

If someone is up your bum while you are driving and you feel that they are very close....lightly tip the brakes a few times, you won't really lose speed but they will back off a bit (probably shouting that you are a bad driver....but again, who cares)!

BMW drivers are not the enemy. Mayo drivers are - snigger!!!

SV

Overheal wrote: »

"and while we're at it we should just leave it up to people to wear seat belts, screw the law! Theyre only guidelines anyway."

lol...

good for you son..

Captain Slow IRL

h_baby wrote: »

BMW drivers are not the enemy. Mayo drivers are - snigger!!!

God, you're hilarious, do you do any live shows?

I'm a bmw driver from Mayo - does one cancel the other out?!

Davidius

ClioV6 wrote: »

That's not up to you to decide what I should be doing on the road.


oh and if you're going 90km/h on a 100km/h road and I can only overtake at 10km/h rate and have to overtake a truck..

well you do the math there. :rolleyes:

How long is the truck?

SV

14-17 metres I reckon.

h_baby

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

God, you're hilarious, do you do any live shows?

I'm a bmw driver from Mayo - does one cancel the other out?!

LOL - I was waiting for the onslaught! Took your time! :pac:

Commonsense

Mark200 wrote: »

Does anyone else hate this? When I was learning to drive and had my L-plates up, I was overtaken once or twice a day on a 60kph road where I was doing exactly 60kph.

Since I've passed my test and taken down the plates it happens less often, but it still happens. Sooo annoying.
It's usually the ones in new BMWs who do it, as if they're too good to drive the same speed as the rest of us.

In fact at one stage I could look in my mirror and the car behind me and predict whether they'd overtake me or not

People who wont move over when they can clearly see others going faster than them annoy the 'beep' out of me

You seem like you have not been driving long or indeed on boards
1. There is a driving forum
2. Get over it
3. If Im faster than you, move over. Or else all other feckers will be riding your bumber like a 5euro hoar on a friday night i.e. hard and fast

Gulliver

Whew! It's getting a bit hard to see for all the "my car's better than yours" prick-waving in here!:D

Seriously though, speed limits are there for a reason. Perhaps on better roads, they may seem restrictive but on R roads and towns they are needed. Before you all jump on me saying that we're not talking about 50/60KPH zones here, I believe that how you behave on the open/major roads says a lot about how you would perform in slower zones.

Commonsense

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

God, you're hilarious, do you do any live shows?

I'm a bmw driver from Mayo - does one cancel the other out?!

You drive a BMW with user name Captain Slow

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

SV

Gulliver wrote: »

, I believe that how you behave on the open/major roads says a lot about how you would perform in slower zones.

Well you believe wrong then.

Captain Slow IRL

h_baby wrote: »

LOL - I was waiting for the onslaught! Took your time! :pac:

They don't call me Captain Slow for nothing.
They don't call me Captain Slow at all, come to think of it.

Commonsense wrote: »

You drive a BMW with user name Captain Slow

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I drive with my regular name, Captain Slow is just my shroud of anonimity when I'm here

Captain Slow IRL

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

They don't call me Captain Slow for nothing.
They don't call me Captain Slow at all, come to think of it

LOL

Davidius

Well if the truck is about 17m long it would probably take somewhere between 8-9.5 seconds to pass it if it's moving at 90 km/hr and you're moving at 100 km/hr.

Of course I made a bunch of guesses as to the length of the car and the extra displacement on one axis before you could safely move in front of the truck. Didn't write too much of it out either so my maths could be completely wrong.

Providing the road is optimal for overtaking I think you could do it without breaking the limit. If the conditions aren't that great I wouldn't risk overtaking at all.

Unless you meant that the truck is going at 100 km/hr and you're going at 90 km/hr. In which there's no real point in overtaking somebody who's going the limit. Unless you're trying to break the limit, which is a sin! Also it wouldn't really be a case of you having to slow down seeing as if he's 10 km/hr faster than you, he'd be an extra 2.78m ahead of you each second.

Publin

I'd just like to remind some people that there are speed LIMITS that dictate the MAXIMUM (not minimum) speed you should be doing. Please don't start driving up the ars* of drivers going the legal limit.

That said, people who choose not to do the speed limit, should not be going at such a speed as to be a danger to other road users and should minimise the inconvenience they cause (keep left for example). However, tailgaiting is not the solution to this.

Maybe the driver is a learner/not confident/unfamiliar with the road/nervous driving in the conditions etc. etc. - driving up close behind them will not help you or them. Stay a safe distance back, and overtake when it's safe to do so. Anyone needing to swerve in/cut in sharply in front of the person they've just overtaken is more than likely not overtaking safely.

I wouldn't be getting p*ssed off at others who overtake you when you're doing the speed limit. Road rage isn't going to help you. They may have a genuine reason for being in a hurry, and if they're not endangering you or others you don't need to worry what they do. If not they're more than likely going to get points on their licence and/or a fine soon if they do it regularly. Console yourself with that thought, and the fact you'll get to where you're going safely, and probably just about as quickly.

Personally I'd much prefer to have a driver who wants to go faster than me overtake me, rather than tailgate me. Driver whatever speed you like, once you don't endanger me or anyone else and are generally considerate of other road users.

Just use a little cop on please, and all of our driving experiences will be far more enjoyable and less stressful .

Gulliver

ClioV6 wrote: »

Well you believe wrong then.

Fair enough. I said that because I drive all day and have seen some shocking driving. A recent example being someone who overtook in a 60KPH zone and clipped a traffic calming bollard. Same guy overtook me on a blind left-hand bend with double white lines a few miles before.

have you caught your breath yet Davidius, teeheehee!

Overheal

In South Carolina theres a minimum posted speed limit as well. So when anyone is being an asshat you can always have fun idling back down to 45mph on the interstate :pac:

Phototoxin

just break hard. when they crash into the rear of our its their fault... alternatively REPORT THEM

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

In South Carolina theres a minimum posted speed limit as well. So when anyone is being an asshat you can always have fun idling back down to 45mph on the interstate :pac:

I have a little trick for as*holes who drive up my ass, instead of jamming on the breaks, which i would never ever do, i stick on my rear fog lights so they think i've jammed on, works a treat! I know its very very bold but i only do it on a rare occasions and usually with boy racers

AntiRip

What annoys me alot is when you pass out a car legally (if they're slow moving) and they start flashing at you because you did so. Its not illegal to overtake....

hopalong85

Overheal wrote: »

In South Carolina theres a minimum posted speed limit as well. So when anyone is being an asshat you can always have fun idling back down to 45mph on the interstate :pac:

haha yes that's hilarious. i imagine slowing down to frustrate other drivers must provide giggles for hours on end. hmmm.

SV

AntiRip wrote: »

What annoys me alot is when you pass out a car legally (if they're slow moving) and they start flashing at you because you did so. Its not illegal to overtake....

They're the kind of assholes who use wrong lanes on roundabouts and don't know how to use motorways or indicate properly etc..


they think they're model drivers.

Overheal

hopalong85 wrote: »

haha yes that's hilarious. i imagine slowing down to frustrate other drivers must provide giggles for hours on end. hmmm.

Safer then penting up all my rage, screaming at elderly drivers making illegal turns and flashing my high-beams at people and trying to make them crash into a tree....I prefer the safe way. Its a lot more elating than trying to have someone kill themselves.

hopalong85

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a little trick for as*holes who drive up my ass, instead of jamming on the breaks, which i would never ever do, i stick on my rear fog lights so they think i've jammed on, works a treat! I know its very very bold but i only do it on a rare occasions and usually with boy racers

hahaha. very good. i have a little trick for people who do what you've just said. i stick on my headlights. then i overtake them and stick on the old rear fog lights. works a treat! i know it's very very bold but i only do it on rare occasions and usually with bad drivers.

AntiRip

ClioV6 wrote: »

They're the kind of assholes who use wrong lanes on roundabouts and don't know how to use motorways or indicate properly etc..


they think they're model drivers.

You're dead right there. Its amazing in this country that you really have to be careful with roundabouts. You're always watching that car in the inside lane incase he cuts across you off that second exit. So many ppl don't know that the far left lane is for first and second exit and the right for third/forth.

well glad i'm not a bad driver then!

Publin

ClioV6 wrote: »

They're the kind of assholes who use wrong lanes on roundabouts and don't know how to use motorways or indicate properly etc..

I've always found people not indicating extremely annoying.

Also muppets in the wrong late on roundabouts does my head in.

But I've found that desides being annoying, it's unbelievably dangerous, especially when you combine both of the above (i.e. being in the wrong lane on a roundabout AND not indicating). Especially on small roundabouts, or lawless ones like the Walkinstown roundabout.