25grand on saloon car

decies · 20-10-2008 10:16pm #1

Looking to buy a new car in the new year for around 25,000 your normal 4 door saloon.Any ideas was looking at vw jetta or opal astra saloon?

peasant · 20-10-2008 10:21pm

If your prepared to spend (and subsequently loose through depriciation) that much money in the current climate ...why wouldn't you go and treat yourself to something actually worth having ...and not a Jetta or Astra saloon ...yikes

bikki · 20-10-2008 10:25pm

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy/B4/1237556/

E92 · 20-10-2008 10:35pm

At €25k you'll have no trouble finding a very nice top of the range small family saloon.

You can have Ford Focus 1.8 TDCi Ghia and €1,555 to spare for your €25k.

The Mazda 3 1.6 D Touring is available for €23,995, and is based on the Focus but the diesel engine in that is far nicer as for some perverse reason Ford doesn't offer this engine in the Focus for Ireland even though most of the rest of Europe gets it while we're lumbered with an engine well past its sell by date.

At a shade over €25k(€25,350 to be exact) you can have the Opel Astra 1.7 CDTi 100 bhp Design. The 1.4 hatchback is a lovely car, and I'm sure that a high spec more powerful diesel is better still.

The Toyota Corolla 1.4 D-4D Luna is yours for €23,760 but it has a fair bit less power than the other cars mentioned and is quite basic inside too. It's not exactly great value for money, and feels as cheap as chips inside in it. I don't think it's very fast either for that matter.

Lastly we have the Jetta which retails for €25,485 in the basic 1.9 TDI, making it the most expensive and even poorer value for money than the Corolla. The 1.9 is a complete tractor of an engine, but the killer blow for the Jetta is that the Golf on which it's based is going to be replaced by a heavily revised model with lower CO2 emissions, and the larger Passat in identical spec is €28,775, but has things like an electric hand brake that the Jetta doesn't have. The Passat has ESP too, something I'm 99% sure the Jetta doesn't have either.

Don't bother with petrol whatever you're getting, even though petrol is far nicer to drive than diesel you'll pay a lot more to buy it in the case of the Focus, and then there's all that extra fuel costs, road tax and of course depreciation to consider.

In short you'll save a packet by buying diesel.

Bandara · 20-10-2008 10:40pm

bikki wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy/B4/1237556/

lol, I had one of these try to race me today on the N2.....

:rolleyes:

bikki · 20-10-2008 10:46pm

Hammertime wrote: »

lol, I had one of these try to race me today on the N2.....

:rolleyes:

There a fast car, roughly 250-270 bhp on a few standard ones. Not a fan though.

decies · 20-10-2008 10:49pm

peasant wrote: »

If your prepared to spend (and subsequently loose through depriciation) that much money in the current climate ...why wouldn't you go and treat yourself to something actually worth having ...and not a Jetta or Astra saloon ...yikes

As a moderator you could actually be a little more helpfull :rolleyes:

peasant · 20-10-2008 10:53pm

decies wrote: »

As a moderator you could actually be a little more helpfull :rolleyes:

Honestly, I was trying to be ...

But we obviously have a diametrically opposed taste in cars

bikki · 20-10-2008 10:55pm

What the mod is saying is that the 2 cars you mentioned are rubbish.

When you buy the Astra its resale value will be half what u payed within 6 months.

Bandara · 20-10-2008 10:55pm

bikki wrote: »

What the mod is saying is that the 2 cars you mentioned are rubbish.

When you buy the Astra its resale value will be half what u payed within 6 months.

+1

DonJose · 20-10-2008 10:57pm

When you say "new car" do you mean an new 08 car or a second hand car?

E92 · 20-10-2008 11:01pm

Anyone who thinks either car the OP mentioned is rubbish has clearly never been in one.

The Jetta is very poor on the value for money count though.

Oh and for the benefit of those posting about the Scooby, the OP said he wanted a *new* *saloon* car in 2009.

Having said all that there are far more exciting things out there than a small family saloon available for €25k(such an the Scooby or Audi A6 3.0 TDI, BMW 530d, Lexus IS etc) it's fairly obvious the OP isn't interested in that since the OP wants a new saloon.

DonJose · 20-10-2008 11:03pm

E92 wrote: »

Oh and for the benefit of those posting about the Scooby, the OP said he wanted a *new* *saloon* car in 2009.

This part confuses me as I've seen many posters post about "buying a new car", when its actually a second hand car

bikki · 20-10-2008 11:05pm

E92 wrote: »

Oh and for the benefit of those posting about the Scooby, the OP said he wanted a *new* *saloon* car in 2009.

Dont see anywhere on here where he mentions 2009? Or even if he's after a brand spanking new car.

DonJose · 20-10-2008 11:08pm

decies wrote: »

Looking to buy a new car in the new year for around 25,000 your normal 4 door saloon.Any ideas was looking at vw jetta or opal astra saloon?

bikki wrote: »

Dont see anywhere on here where he mentions 2009? Or even if he's after a brand spanking new car.

If he wants a second hand car then he should mention second hand, but few posters here do.

decies · 20-10-2008 11:08pm

Just really want to spend that amount on a 4 door car ,will have to do the rounds in the garages,will be doing the renault,vw,audi garrages tomorrow.
Is audi A3 any good ? Is it available in 4 door? Can stretch to 27,000 or so :pac:
Brand new car cough lol

DonJose · 20-10-2008 11:11pm

But do you want a NEW CAR or a USED CAR?

DonJose · 20-10-2008 11:13pm

decies wrote: »

Just really want to spend that amount on a 4 door car ,will have to do the rounds in the garages,will be doing the renault,vw,audi garrages tomorrow.
Is audi A3 any good ? Is it available in 4 door? Can stretch to 27,000 or so :pac:
Brand new car cough lol

AUDI A3 1.6 ATTRACTION SPORTBACK 5 DOOR - €26,985

http://www.carzone.ie/new-cars/AUDI/A3/1.6-ATTRACTION-SPORTBACK/42408420080701/

E92 · 20-10-2008 11:14pm

decies wrote: »

Just really want to spend that amount on a 4 door car ,will have to do the rounds in the garages,will be doing the renault,vw,audi garrages tomorrow.
Is audi A3 any good ? Is it available in 4 door? Can stretch to 27,000 or so :pac:

The Renault Mégane is due an imminent replacement.

The A3 is a Golf that allows you to tell your mates that you've blown a needless amount of extra cash just so you can say "I have an Audi".

The Golf and A3 have 5 doors as they're hatchbacks.

For €27k you can move upmarket and get the stunning new Opel Insignia 2.0 diesel for €27,495(I know it doesn't say it there in the link but the the 2.0 diesel is €1k more than the underpowered 1.6 petrol). You could get a Mondeo 1.8 TDCi LX for €26,665 as well but you'd have a huge car with only 100 bhp and the basic model.

DonJose · 20-10-2008 11:19pm

€25k - €27k price range for 5 door hatchbacks. The Honda Civic and the VW Golf TSI GT sticks out for me

ALFA ROMEO 147
1. 1.6 TURISMO 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,550
2. 1.9 MULTIJET SPORTIVO 120 BHP 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,650

AUDI A3
3. 1.6 ATTRACTION SPORTBACK 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,985

CITROEN C4
4. 1.6I STYLE PLUS AUTO 5 dr Hatchback Auto € 26,100

CITROEN C4 PICASSO
5. 1.6 HDI 110 5 SEAT 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,500
6. 1.6 HDI 110 AMBIANCE 5 SEAT 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,700

DAIHATSU TERIOS
7. 1.5 16V 4WD AUTO 5 dr Sports Utility Vehicle Auto € 26,749

DODGE CALIBER
8. 2.0 SXT TURBO DIESEL 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,925

FIAT BRAVO
9. 1.9 MULTIJET 150 BHP SPORT 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,495

FORD C-MAX
10. 1.8 TDCI 115PS ACTIV 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,340

FORD FOCUS
11. 1.6I GHIA AUTO 5 dr Hatchback Auto € 26,550
12. 1.6I STYLE AUTO 5 dr Estate Auto € 25,275
13. 1.6I ZETEC AUTO 5 dr Hatchback Auto € 26,395

HONDA CIVIC
14. 1.8I VTEC ES 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,306
15. 1.8I VTEC ES I-SHIFT 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,054
16. 1.8I VTEC SE EXECUTIVE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,027

KIA CEED
17. 1.6 CRDI EX SW AUTO 5 dr Estate Auto € 25,695

MERCEDES-BENZ A-CLASS
18. A 150 AVANTGARDE 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,565
19. A 150 CLASSIC AUTO 5 dr Mini MPV Auto € 26,845
20. A 150 ELEGANCE 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,565
21. A 150 ELEGANCE ALW R29 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,565
22. A 150 SPORT 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,793
23. A 170 CLASSIC 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,250
24. A 180 CDI CLASSIC 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,750

NISSAN QASHQAI
25. 1.5 DCI SE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,395

NISSAN TIIDA
26. 1.6 SVE AUTO 5 dr Hatchback Auto € 25,150

OPEL ASTRA
27. 1.3 CDTI 16V SXI 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,405
28. 1.6 16V CLUB EASYTRONIC 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,250
29. 1.6 16V DESIGN EASYTRONIC 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,005
30. 1.6 16V DESIGN EASYTRONIC 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,405
31. 1.6 16V ELITE EASYTRONIC 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,755
32. 1.6 16V SXI EASYTRONIC 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,905
33. 1.6 16V VVT CLUB 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,250
34. 1.6 16V VVT DESIGN 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,405
35. 1.6 16V VVT ELITE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,000
36. 1.6 16V VVT SXI 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,905
37. 1.7 CDTI 16V (100PS) CLUB 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,350
38. 1.7 CDTI 16V (100PS) DESIGN 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,350
39. 1.7 CDTI 16V (100PS) ELITE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,700
40. 1.7 CDTI 16V (100PS) SXI 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,005
41. 1.9 CDTI (120PS) DESIGN 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,850

OPEL VECTRA
42. 1.6 16V CLUB 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,235
43. 1.6 16V LIFE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,435
44. 1.9 CDTI (120 PS) LIFE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,935

OPEL ZAFIRA
45. 1.6 16V VVT LIFE 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,995
46. 1.6 16V VVT LIFE NON A/C 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,250

PEUGEOT 308
47. 1.6 120 BHP SX 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,970
48. 1.6 HDI 110BHP SX 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,975
49. SW 1.6 120 BHP SE 7 SEAT 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,095
50. SW 1.6 120 BHP SX 5 SEAT 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,495
51. SW 1.6 HDI 110 BHP SX 5 SEATS 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,995

PEUGEOT 407 SW
52. 1.8 ST 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,060

RENAULT LAGUNA
53. 1.5 DCI 110 ROYALE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,590

RENAULT MEGANE
54. 1.5 DCI 106 BHP DYNAMIQUE 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,150

RENAULT SCENIC
55. 1.4 16V ROYALE 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,450

SEAT ALTEA
56. 1.6 S 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,200
57. 1.9 TDI S 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,520

SEAT ALTEA XL
58. 1.6 S 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,070
59. 1.9 TDI REBEL 105BHP 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,200
60. 1.9 TDI S 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,190

SEAT LEON
61. 1.6 102 BHP S 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,200

SKODA OCTAVIA
62. 1.6 ELEGANCE 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,530
63. 1.6 FSI ELEGANCE 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,170
64. 1.6 FSI TIPTRONIC AMBIENTE 5 dr Hatchback Auto € 26,515
65. 1.6 TIPTRONIC AMBIENTE 5 dr Estate Auto € 25,690
66. 1.6 TIPTRONIC ELEGANCE 5 dr Hatchback Auto € 26,200
67. 1.8T FSI AMBIENTE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,605
68. 1.8T FSI AMBIENTE 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,815
69. 1.9 TDI DSG AMBIENTE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,295
70. 1.9 TDI DSG CLASSIC 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,310
71. 2.0 TDI AMBIENTE 5 dr Estate Manual € 25,420
72. 2.0 TDI ELEGANCE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,840
73. 2.0 TDI ELEGANCE 5 dr Estate Manual € 26,905

TOYOTA AURIS
74. 1.6 VVT-I M-M LUNA 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,715
75. 2.0 D-4D LUNA 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,010

VOLKSWAGEN GOLF
76. 1.4 TSI COMFORTLINE 122BHP 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,065
77. 1.4 TSI COMFORTLINE DSG 122BHP 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,315
78. 1.4 TSI GT SPORT 122BHP 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,710
79. 1.4 TSI GT SPORT DSG 122BHP 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,940
80. 1.9 TDI 105 BHP COMFORTLINE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 25,610
81. 1.9 TDI 105 BHP GT SPORT 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,190
82. 1.9 TDI DSG 105 BHP BASE 5 dr Hatchback Manual € 26,525

VOLKSWAGEN GOLF PLUS
83. 1.4 COMFORTLINE 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 25,375
84. 1.4 TSI 122BHP 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,220
85. 1.4 TSI DSG 122BHP 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,435
86. 1.6 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,085
87. 1.9 TDI 5 dr Mini MPV Manual € 26,710

http://www.carzone.ie/newcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=search&searchtype=advanced&make=&xMake=&Body=&xBody=&xModel=&doors=5&enginemin=0&Seats=0&enginemax=999&gearbox=Any&fuel=&pricemin=25000&showphoto=Yes&pricemax=27000

bikki · 20-10-2008 11:21pm

There u go, a massive list to pick from....

Just not a Jetta or Astra lol

decies · 20-10-2008 11:26pm

Thanks for your help anyway, opal chap did say( well he would wouldn,t he )the insignia specs would be hard to beat.Anyway food for thought.

decies · 20-10-2008 11:28pm

http://www.insigniaproject.ie/

DonJose · 20-10-2008 11:43pm

Actually the list above was 5 door hatchbacks, here are the 4 door saloon selection in the price range €25k to €27k, lots more choice

FORD FOCUS
1. 1.6 TI-VCT GHIA 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,010
2. 1.6I GHIA AUTO 4 dr Saloon Auto € 26,860
3. 1.6I ZETEC AUTO 4 dr Saloon Auto € 26,185
4. 2.0 TDCI 110PS GHIA POWERSHIFT 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,135

FORD MONDEO
5. 1.6I 110PS LX 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,595
6. 1.8TDCI 100PS LX 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,665

HONDA CIVIC
7. 1.8I-VTEC SE-S 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,341

HYUNDAI SONATA
8. 2.0 CRDI CLASSIC 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,200

KIA MAGENTIS
9. 2.0 CRDI LX 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,995

MAZDA MAZDA6
10. 1.8 EXECUTIVE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,995

MINI MINI
11. 1.6 D COOPER CLUBMAN 4 dr Estate Manual € 25,764
12. 1.6 D COOPER CLUBMAN 4 dr Estate Manual € 25,764

NISSAN TIIDA
13. 1.6 SVE AUTO 4 dr Saloon Auto € 25,150

OPEL ASTRA
14. 1.6I 16V VVT DESIGN EASYTRONIC 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,250
15. 1.7CDTI (100PS) DESIGN 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,350

OPEL VECTRA
16. 1.6 16V CLUB 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,635
17. 1.8 16V VVT LIFE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,835
18. 1.9 CDTI (120 PS) LIFE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,335

PEUGEOT 407
19. 1.6 HDI SR 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,765
20. 2.0 ST 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,530
21. 2.0 SX 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,530

RENAULT MEGANE
22. 1.5 DCI 106 BHP MONACO II 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,350

SKODA SUPERB
23. 1.9 TDI CLASSIC 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,460

SSANGYONG ACTYON SPORTS
24. 2.0XDI 2WD 4 dr Pick-up Manual € 26,995

TOYOTA AVENSIS
25. 1.6 VVT-I AURA 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,525
26. 2.0 D-4D AURA 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,765

VOLKSWAGEN JETTA
27. 1.4 TSI 122BHP COMFORTLINE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,185
28. 1.4 TSI 122BHP DSG 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,180
29. 1.4 TSI 122BHP SPORTLINE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,580
30. 1.9 TDI 4 dr Saloon Manual € 25,495
31. 1.9 TDI COMFORTLINE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,565

VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT
32. 1.4 TSI BASE 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,760

VOLVO S40
33. 1.6I S 4 dr Saloon Manual € 26,830

http://www.carzone.ie/newcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=search&searchtype=advanced&make=&xMake=&Body=&xBody=&xModel=&doors=4&enginemin=0&Seats=0&enginemax=999&gearbox=Any&fuel=&pricemin=25000&showphoto=Yes&pricemax=27000

Rowley Birkin QC · 20-10-2008 11:51pm

There is so many good cars available at the mement for €25k. Do you really want to take the depreciation hit of a new car and pass up the thousands of bargains that are around at the moment?

If I had 25k and was looking for a new car (never brand new) this is where I would be heading. So much more of a car than a Jetta or an Astra. Just test drive a few cars before you make up your mind.

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Alfa-Romeo/159/1.9-JTS/1135263/

Tony Broke · 21-10-2008 12:24am

If I had 25 - 27k I would be going to the UK and getting myself a diesel Audi A6,Saab or Lexus 220d

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=AUDI&min_pr=75&source=2&model=A6&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=6&mileage=&postcode=m52ty&variant=&bodyid=2&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=leather&ukcarsearch_full.x=39&ukcarsearch_full.y=6&start=4&distance=26&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200841320849557

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=SAAB&min_pr=75&source=2&model=9-5&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=6&mileage=&postcode=m52ty&variant=&bodyid=2&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=leather&ukcarsearch_full.x=65&ukcarsearch_full.y=6&start=2&distance=32&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200841320436680

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=LEXUS&min_pr=75&source=2&model=ANY&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=6&mileage=&postcode=m52ty&variant=&bodyid=2&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=leather&ukcarsearch_full.x=40&ukcarsearch_full.y=4&start=2&distance=159&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200842320968600

Lexus 220d would be my prefered choice.

octyvrs · 21-10-2008 12:30am

the new skoda superb.

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/truly-superb-1502825.html

bazz26 · 21-10-2008 12:52am

OP you need to note that both the Astra and Jetta are being replaced by new models in the next 12 months. Should be considered when buying new.

OP your probably not interested but €25k would get you a low mileage 8 month old high spec Honda Accord 2.2 diesel from the UK with change left over. Road tax is only €290 annually afaik.

Alternatively if the Accord is a non runner then the Civic saloon is available at just under €27k new here.

Lord Nikon · 21-10-2008 2:43am

...and not a single BMW in there :rolleyes:

Personally though, if I had 25k I would buy this http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/5-Series/530-i/1237717/

Lord Nikon · 21-10-2008 2:47am

Hammertime wrote: »

lol, I had one of these try to race me today on the N2.....

:rolleyes:

Was it trying to keep up, and if so, what do you drive?

Matt Simis · 21-10-2008 3:12am

decies wrote: »

http://www.insigniaproject.ie/

octyvrs wrote: »

the new skoda superb.

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/truly-superb-1502825.html

Would be better to get something new and fresh like either of the above IMO, if you insist on a "new" car. Both push the budget a bit tho.

25grand on saloon car

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