HPAT

logic123

the thing is what sort of job can you do with humand health and disease?

hpat 123

Piste wrote: »

Yeah I'd say points for Human Health and disease will be massively high beause of all the med applicants.

r u doin human health n disease 2 try latr 4 postgraduate entry into med ????

A Neurotic

^Research, and you'd be well-equipped for a postgrad in Medicine.

I got 187. 94th percentile. Kicking myself that I messed up my Leaving Cert now.

Zenith23

Isn't it true that you can do two years in science in Trinity and then switch to medicine?

Oh and is it really a good idea to do Human Health and Disease? Can it lead to a career in medicine?

i'm a smiler

cathysweet wrote: »

i got 185, 93rd percentile, and i have 580 points from last year. dunno where that leaves me, so the agony will continue until next august:(:(

Well done! I'm sure you will get in! What college is your first choice?

Crystler

Anyone have any idea what I should put down as a backup? I'm a science junkie, but I don't have any urge to do a science course and become a scientist, sure it's interesting and fun... but I don't see myself working a lab, doing research 24/7... reason why I chose medicine because it's the most interesting job and alot of interaction with people so I'll be guaranteed to never get bored of that career.... At the moment I don't have any drive to do anything if I don't get into med.... too late to talk to the career guidance teacher as I have graduated from school... so where does this leave me?!?!

Piste

Yeah exactly, research. Also it'd make it easier to do postgrad medicine, though that would leave me in crippling debt for years to come and how am I supposed to find a husband and have four kids before I'm 30 then?!!

Hpat123, please don't use text speak in this forum, people find it a bit hard to read, thanks.

cathysweet

can i just say, i wouldnt advise anybody to take medicine off their cao. dont do it!!! as u can see, i got 580 last year, so i could have had medicine easily if i didn't convince myself i wasn't gonna get it!!! i took it off my cao the night before the closing date, and replaced it with law of all things, cos i was feeling so low after the L.C. Just leave it there, u may as well. there is nothing worse than opening ur envelope next august and realising u messed it all up due to low self esteem haha. there are ten spots, leave med there just in case, you never no.....:D

Crystler

Piste wrote: »

Yeah exactly, research. Also it'd make it easier to do postgrad medicine, though that would leave me in crippling debt for years to come and how am I supposed to find a husband and have four kids before I'm 30 then?!!

Hpat123, please don't use text speak in this forum, people find it a bit hard to read, thanks.

Lol Piste we are one in the same, had futures based around medicine, and not getting into it this year is gonna set it all back to step one .... well wifey instead of husband for moi. but the point is future is ultimately changed!

logic123

ive got physics and mathmatics down as my backup, but like crysler said, medicine is the thing that drives you, i couldent see myself doing lab work lol

Piste

Oh no that's awful! I felt like taking medicine off my CAO, just so I wouldn't have to miss out on my first choice (sort of an "I broke up with HER first!")situation. Then I realised that's pretty pathetic and petty so I'm leaving it all on.

I'm glad I want to go into research. The main thing I want a medicine degree for is to get into the highest areas of research and I'm not sure I could get that with any other science degree, even a pHd.

Craguls

the thing is what sort of job can you do with human health and disease?

Exactly, most of the med student who went for the money more so than anything else (a small percentage I know) would probably file into dentistry or pharmacy(forgive the generalisation). Since this is essential a specialised biochemistry degree!

I was talking to the head of the course awhile back and she reckons because the matriculation is much more restrictive than UCD's the points will be lower, as the people who wanted the money turn their noises up at it. All speculation of course but I think it's far too early to give up!

cathysweet

UCC!!! i have them all down tho. starting to regret didnt apply to budapest at this stage, i wud nearly do med on the moon if i cud:)

coggser01

i got 79 percentile, not sure how d l.c. could go for me at the moment but how many people took the hpat? im curios because i know there is a little under a thousand places and roughly 4000 people put medicine down as forst choice, but that doesnt include people who did the l.c. previosly and hav a cao number already. and fuk yous all who got in the 90 sumin percentile. you lot only bet me by like 13 poitns, fuk all to be honest. atleast ive a chance of gettin in if i absolutely ace the l.c. (not a chance)

A Neurotic

Medicine's female, eh? A flighty temptress...

logic123

so if my calculations are correct about 85% of us will not be getting a medical place this year :S, better start looking at backup.

killen_machine

what are 4 A grades in a levels equivalent to in leavin cert points?

Crystler

cathysweet wrote: »

UCC!!! i have them all down tho. starting to regret didnt apply to budapest at this stage, i wud nearly do med on the moon if i cud:)

Same here! NASA or the irish equivilent doing a medicine course up there! Talk about state of the art, screw you all, I'm going to the moon!!!!

Craguls wrote: »

Exactly, most of the med student who went for the money more so than anything else (a small percentage I know) would probably file into dentistry or pharmacy(forgive the generalisation). Since this is essential a specialised biochemistry degree!

I was talking to the head of the course awhile back and she reckons because the matriculation is much more restrictive than UCD's the points will be lower, as the people who wanted the money turn their noises up at it. All speculation of course but I think it's far too early to give up!

What do you mean by this? Money grubbing medicine applicants, rather than those doing it cause of the vocation. Oh anyone thinking that medicine is easy money like so many in the past, look at all the cases that have been brought up because they only thought of the money they'd earn rather than treating and caring for patients LIKE THEY SHOULD BE! You WILL be losing more money than you would earn if you are not suited to patient care and only care about the dosh.

logic123

600 points

logic123

no offense but 90% of people who do medicine go into for the money, that isnt rocket science but trust me, 90% of people arnt innocent enough to do it for patient care, they want the money and lifestyle,

Craguls

I wouldn't give up. I say it really depends where you were hoping to go in the first place. I'd say the HPAT had a much smaller effect on the universities that required chem for matriculation.

I don't know about you guys but only 13 people in my school did chemistry, and well lets just say I can't imagine them all becoming chemists.....

Crystler

logic123 wrote: »

600 points

seriously 4 A's in A Levels nets you 600 points... damn I should have thought about doing those instead, I mean you focus only on 4 subjects (yes they are more in depth) but still, I would have done alot better... well that's up for speculation, but if I didn't have to waste time studying french, irish and english intensively to get into courses (languages not a strong point for me)

Zenith23

I was just talking to one of my friends on the phone and he says he got 212!

Is that insane or what. This guy's been getting straight A1's through the Leaving Cert and is destined to get the 600!

What's that? 772? Bastard...

logic123

Im really hoping for AAAAA in my A level exams which would give me 600 pounts + 97 for my Hpat FOR 797 points hopefully, thats what im hoping for, but whether or not that will give me a good chance is another matter. Im just hoping i can get AAAAA on my a levels results, keep my fingers crossed

FIFA2004

Got 191, which is the 96percentile. But ive only got 540 points from last years leaving. And i was crazily close to getting 2 more A1's which would have made a massive difference. Not really sure if i stand a chance because i dont have chemistry either, which means cant get into UCC. Another few months waiting i suppose.

Crystler

logic123 wrote: »

no offense but 90% of people who do medicine go into for the money, that isnt rocket science but trust me, 90% of people arnt innocent enough to do it for patient care, they want the money and lifestyle,

It seems v.plausible, which actually reeks of monkey faeces because that's why the medical system is so poor around the world, people are just lookin for money rather than having people as their main priority... I'm actually sickened by this fact, and people who are in it for the money only! They should just open up a business and smuggling if they want money that bad! If money was only on their minds why waste long hours, possibly killing people in the process just for money... makes no sense to me. I can see them wasting that medicine degree... and it irks me

Crystler

Zenith23 wrote: »

I was just talking to one of my friends on the phone and he says he got 212!

Is that insane or what. This guy's been getting straight A1's through the Leaving Cert and is destined to get the 600!

What's that? 772? Bastard...

this bites.. I'm so close to breaking down. Good for him and all but DAMN!

Craguls

Sorry Crystler I'm not attacking medicine applicants, I'm trying to comfort Human Health and Disease applicants like myself. The lack of a set job with the salary of medicine at the end is what will put most people off that course.

I don't question anyone's motivations for applying to medicine, but like you I'd rather someone was motivated by the money and was a brilliant doctor than someone who had great bedside manner but wasn't cut out to treat me

Piste

logic123 wrote: »

no offense but 90% of people who do medicine go into for the money, that isnt rocket science but trust me, 90% of people arnt innocent enough to do it for patient care, they want the money and lifestyle,

Do you have an actual source or that or is it just speculation?

logic123 wrote: »

Im really hoping for AAAAA in my A level exams which would give me 600 pounts + 97 for my Hpat FOR 797 points hopefully, thats what im hoping for, but whether or not that will give me a good chance is another matter. Im just hoping i can get AAAAA on my a levels results, keep my fingers crossed

<snip>I clearly can't do maths >.< </snip>

A Neurotic

Seems to me like the HPAT isn't going to count for much for the majority. The range is so narrow that there's not much of a points difference within a 10% percentile range, methinks. It's gonna be all about the LC points.