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ThehPatroniser wrote: »In order to calculate the relevance of the HPAT score we need to know:
1. The number who sat the HPat;
2. The number of Medical places available.
In order to have any idea of whats going on we need to rank ourselves in the context of the number of places available (ignoring the LCert points).
We ought to be able to say shortly where we all stand NOW. I am assuming that thereafter 550 LC points minimum will be necessary, and the question will then arise as to the change in ranking depending on the point in the range 550 to 600.
Any one in possession of the data needed to do the maths?Maybe this is dodgy maths, but there are 3356 applicants who have medicine as their first choice and 405 places. 405/3356 x 100 = 12% so only 12% of people who sat the HPAT (i.e. people in the 88% percentile) have already got their place.
The leaving cert will change this a good bit, but will it change it significantly?
At the moment it's bye bye medicine for me
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straight_As wrote: »Relative previous years, 520 points is a mediocre LC score for admission into medicine. Christ, imagine your complaints had you sat the LC in 2005 when med entry to TCD was 590* (600 median) http://www2.cao.ie/points/LVL8_05.PDF!
Now, I'm not in any way insinuating that these students would, or, indeed, will be better doctors than you yourself. You evidently have a great desire to become a doctor, and I, like I'm sure may other readers of this thread, recognize that you will some-day make a fantastic medic. But I can in no way accept that you have been cheated by the system, if low leaving cert points restrict your application. The fairest system is the one in place. If places were awarded on the premise of "some deserve it more than others", the selection technique would be rendered unjust and unmeritorious.
What I'm attempting to say is, the selection process for medicine is fairer than ever. The emphasis still favours the LC, granted, but now, problem solving aptitudes are acknowledged, and rightfully so.
Also, one final thing. You should never predict an intellect-based score from a sample paper. As the paper is based on intelligence and adaptability, its true purpose is to see your mental skills used in a foreign scenario. A fairer judgment would perhaps have been your natural ability and its corresponding percentile, relative to your other classmates or medical school applicants known to you.
It was the exact same exam for all students, and my guess would be that the most naturally gifted students topped the grading.
Personally, though, I hope you get in. You have an unrelenting drive for medicine, which is commendable.
G'luck!
(This is all ahead of me next year :eek:)
The Leaving Cert is all one big prediction, but yes I understand your points. I'll most likely look back on this in August and realise that the system is just and fair, but at the moment I feel betrayed by a system that once brought me hope.
I wish you all the luck for your leaving cert next year, it is not scarey at all until like 2 mins before your exam, even if you have prepared your ass off. At this point I wish I had the money to pay for grinds in language subjects so I had a 7th honour (dropped french the month before, and then app.maths went to the toilet).
I read on the summer exams forum (posted on it also) and read you did superb on your 5th year exams, good going
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Anyone get higher than the 97th percentile? A friend of mine did and he's buzzing!
That's great a friend of one of the posters got in the top 1% (212) I'm going to go out now I'll keep up later on this evening! Hope I'll be less stressed.... Only superficial thing about me getting into medicine , as I have somehow painted myself as some kind of medicine cherub, is that I was hoping to get in at age 17 rather than age 18 or older :S
Off Topic: Who else thinks they should make a "Less Stress, More Success" book for Life after the Leaving (pre-results)?0
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