Premiership Player Draft - Discussion Only

Frisbee

I GuanYin wrote: »

Lee Sharpe is a great pick imo. Was looking at him as a possible solution to my left sided problem. Thought he would have gone earlier.

Ditto. That's one of my left wingers gone now.
My shortlist is starting to look mighty small now...

Iago

I GuanYin wrote: »

Lee Sharpe is a great pick imo. Was looking at him as a possible solution to my left sided problem. Thought he would have gone earlier.

Yep, he was the third player I mentioned when I picked Malbranque, would still have Malbranque or pick number 2 before him. Still a great pick and had he his head screwed on properly would have achieved a hell of a lot more than he did.

Xavi6

I still know the Sharpey Shuffle

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Johnny Ronsen lasted way too long, imo.

Excellent player.

Idu

I GuanYin wrote: »

I still know the Sharpey Shuffle

How cool was the Sharpey Shuffle, especially considering that homo erotic love dance thing that Ince and Giggs used to do

Trippie

Am i up now due to the 12 hour rule?

Bubs101

Yep

Trippie

pick made, will send pm now

genericgoon

Considering the lack of quality cover on the left wing, Pederson is a good pick for this stage.

RasTa

There is no quality left on the right wing.

shoutman

Sorry I'm a bit confused as to how Trippie was up when Bohsman only went 90 minutes before him and Ditpoker 14 hours before that....

edit: I wouldn't mind but Pederson was earmarked as my next pick so a ruling would be appreciated (sorry Gordon).

genericgoon

RasTa wrote: »

There is no quality left on the right wing.

Nobody who I'd consider top drawer who I can think of but there's a few players still there who would do a good job for many teams imo.

Trippie

shoutman wrote: »

Sorry I'm a bit confused as to how Trippie was up when Bohsman only went 90 minutes before him and Ditpoker 14 hours before that....

edit: I wouldn't mind but Pederson was earmarked as my next pick so a ruling would be appreciated (sorry Gordon).

Ye no worries Luke, the order is

LuckyLloyd
bohsman
ditpoker
shoutman
Trippie

so as oscar is away in barca he was late in putting his pick up, which meant that it skipped him and jeff went, since you're after jeff the time at which oscar makes his pick is irrelevant thats why i asked was i up as it was 14 hours as you say since jeff made his pick

genericgoon

shoutman wrote: »

Sorry I'm a bit confused as to how Trippie was up when Bohsman only went 90 minutes before him and Ditpoker 14 hours before that....

edit: I wouldn't mind but Pederson was earmarked as my next pick so a ruling would be appreciated (sorry Gordon).

Bohsman was late with his go thus ditpoker took his pick. (Bohsman then had the option of taking his pick whenever he got back to a computer) You were then late by more than 12 hours(after poker's pick) and thus your go was skipped. But it would seem Iago's warnings about the 12 hour rule have come to fruition.

shoutman

Fair enough, god damn it if only I worked 9-5 so i'd be up that early, or if I checked this thread in a drunken stoop before going to bed lol.

Hmm this will be a tricky pick.

mayordenis

pick made pm sent to RasTa,

Ian Rush - read it and weep

RasTa

What round are we on, I take it i've two picks now?

genericgoon

Yeah, I beleive you have the double pick now.

RasTa

Done, Lennon........ bah!

Frisbee

Sharpe, Pedersen, Johnsen and Upson gone withing a few picks of each other, that hurt my shortlist, alot. I was sure I could pick up Pedersen easy next round...

mayordenis

pick made and pm sent
outfield ten of

Babbel - Campbell - Agger - Harte
SWP - Nolan - Barry - Pires
Klinsmann-Rush

Bubs101

He's a good player on paper but injuries ruined him. Averaged 10 games a season for Liverpool

Trippie

pick made and pm sent soon

Melion

Jesus, really flew through them today lads, well done.

Luckily enough, none of those players were on my shortlist. I had considered Babbel but i think he will mainly be remembered for that injury that ended his liverpool career, sadly.

LuckyLloyd

People are picking very well recently imo.

eagle eye

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

People are picking very well recently imo.

Agreed, I had both Walcott and Bentley earmarked for selection.

And I have to be honest and never thought of Celestin Babayaro, I wouldn't have picked him but he never crossed my mind at all. A very good pick at this late stage.

When am I up again, its feels like an age and I want to go before there are only crumbs left.:)

genericgoon

Weir is fantastic value at this stage imo. Incredibly solid performer with plenty of caps to back up his claim to a place in this draft. Walcott and Bentley are decent picks though they do reflect the lack of quality available in total in their respective positions.

mayordenis

While I agree that his sickness was something that will be hard to see past I really think this is not fair and will argue this with anyone, when he played he was consistently excellent, Babbel was a great left back for liverpool and blackburn while he was there to, not many more than 60 league games for both sides, but all out and out quality.

eagle eye

Great pick Shoutman, and I have to admit that with the exception of John Barnes I like the look of your team.

genericgoon

eagle eye wrote: »

Great pick Shoutman, and I have to admit that with the exception of John Barnes I like the look of your team.

Hes a great pick unless he gets himself sent off.

shoutman

Do people honestly think Barnes does not deserve a place in this draft? Yes he was picked early and possibly my midfield is too attack minded, but with Barnes playing in a deeper role and having an extremely solid and non too attacking backline it means that my attacking midfield shouldn't be a hinderance to the time as a whole. With Tevez able to drop back into midfield we could crowd the midfield with five men.
But tactics are still to be thought about. That said my final pick shouldn't make a huge difference to my tactics.

Great to see the teams forming now, some excellent teams imo. I wouldn't rate mine as in the top three however.

eagle eye

shoutman wrote: »

Do people honestly think Barnes does not deserve a place in this draft? Yes he was picked early and possibly my midfield is too attack minded, but with Barnes playing in a deeper role and having an extremely solid and non too attacking backline it means that my attacking midfield shouldn't be a hinderance to the time as a whole. With Tevez able to drop back into midfield we could crowd the midfield with five men.
But tactics are still to be thought about. That said my final pick shouldn't make a huge difference to my tactics.

Great to see the teams forming now, some excellent teams imo. I wouldn't rate mine as in the top three however.

Barnes lacked fitness and mobility during his time in the premiership. If the draft included the Liverpool team of the eighties I would agree he was a great pick but not on his premiership appearances. I think he is lost against most midfields in this draft. I don't see any way either that he lasts any more than an hour so yes I think he has no place in this draft.

Necronomicon

Lehmann was some nutjob, but unbelievable value at this stage. Top pick. I'm starting to think I needn't have drafted a goalkeeper so early, there have been a lot of quality players picked in the later stage of the draft.

whatawaster

Babbel is a fantastic pick. Wonderful at Liverpool. And unlike Owen and his hamstring or Kewell and his groin, i don't think Guillain-Barre can count against him.
Pedersen is also a good shout, as is Rush and Weir.

Bubs101

whatawaster wrote: »

Babbel is a fantastic pick. Wonderful at Liverpool. And unlike Owen and his hamstring or Kewell and his groin, i don't think Guillain-Barre can count against him.
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I don't see the difference between a disease and an injury. If he missed massive amounts of games, he missed massive amounts of games. Also, although I do like him, the fact Liverpool were willing to loan him out makes me dubious if I'm looking at him through rose tinted glasses.

Also, on Walcott, he only has 54 premiership games, alot of the early ones were bad and alot of them were substitute appearances as well

ditpoker

i've picked paul parker, was discussing him as a pick with lloyd earlier and he said he'd been taken... its 5am and i cant find anyone picking him, maybe i've missed it, but i did look. if he has already been taken, obviously i will re-pick. but yea, for now, a two time premiership winner with numerous england caps... paul parker, happy with that! definately!!!

team so far

GK: Tim Flowers
LB: Ashley Cole
RB: Paul Parker
CB: Steve Bruce
CB: Gary Pallister
LM: Lee Sharpe
RM: Aaron Lennon
CM: David Batty
CM: Jamie Redknapp
ST: _________???
ST: Darren Bent

nice... nice...

RasTa

Yeah I wasn't overly happy with Walcott, he has only had one great season with Arsenal but there was nothing left on the right. I would have picked Bentley if he came to mind.

bohsman

ditpoker wrote: »

i've picked paul parker, was discussing him as a pick with lloyd earlier and he said he'd been taken... its 5am and i cant find anyone picking him, maybe i've missed it, but i did look. if he has already been taken, obviously i will re-pick. but yea, for now, a two time premiership winner with numerous england caps... paul parker, happy with that! definately!!!

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He was on my shortlist but he really didnt make it in the Premiership, Gary Neville broke through and Parker was hit badly by injury. 100 league appearances between 91 and 96 barely any of them in the last 2 years. Id say hes close to not having 40 premiership appearances.

Iago

bohsman wrote: »

He was on my shortlist but he really didnt make it in the Premiership, Gary Neville broke through and Parker was hit badly by injury. 100 league appearances between 91 and 96 barely any of them in the last 2 years. Id say hes close to not having 40 premiership appearances.

compared to some in the draft he's a veteran! 87 appearances with 81 starts over 5 seasons. Decent pick at this late stage.

LuckyLloyd

Took Djorkaeff, leaving team as follows:

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Friedel

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Finnan

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Walker

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Desailly

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Hinchcliffe

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Vieira

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Ginola

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Djorkaeff

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Kewell

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Sutton

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????

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Interestingly, none of the above will be team captain. Taking him with my next pick (he'll definitely be there for me barring some major miracle).

bohsman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Taking him with my next pick (he'll definitely be there for me barring some major miracle).

I think we´re both nuts picking Fulham strikers.

titan18

Last few picks have been good.I had Parker on my shortlist for right backs,he was the guy I'd pick after Steve Clarke.Djorkaeff is a good pick too, intelligent footballer and always tried his best when he went on to the pitch.Something needed in a side with Ginola and Kewell.

I dont think the Walcott pick was good though.Only a few good games for Arsenal,he's certainly a promising player but hasnt done enough to make him worth picking.Although there is a shortage of players on the wings,I can think of 3 or 4 off the top of my head who are worth picking ahead of Walcott

RasTa

titan18 wrote: »

I dont think the Walcott pick was good though.Only a few good games for Arsenal,he's certainly a promising player but hasnt done enough to make him worth picking.Although there is a shortage of players on the wings,I can think of 3 or 4 off the top of my head who are worth picking ahead of Walcott

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShSm5fe2DEg

Is why he is in to be honest, mind drew a blank for the right wing so I stuck him in since he has had 3 seasons with Arsenal. Broke into the 1st squad last season with some preformances. Same as Torres.

titan18

RasTa wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShSm5fe2DEg

Is why he is in to be honest, mind drew a blank for the right wing so I stuck him in since he has had 3 seasons with Arsenal. Broke into the 1st squad last season with some preformances. Same as Torres.

Ya,i know he's incredibly talented but in terms of impact in the Premiership, there are a few wingers who I'd have picked ahead of him due to his lack of games.Nothing to take away from Walcott, and i suppose he's still a good pick as he has the talent to do anything.

At this stage aswell,it's hard to argue against any pick cos there's question marks over any player who'll be picked at this stage, in terms of injuries and playing time etc.Any player that I have in mind for a place in my midfield has question marks over him and I can see why they are poor picks but they will do what is needed for my side.

Bubs101

RasTa wrote: »

Is why he is in to be honest, mind drew a blank for the right wing so I stuck him in since he has had 3 seasons with Arsenal. Broke into the 1st squad last season with some preformances. Same as Torres.

He's not really the same as Torres though. Walcott wasn't fantastic from start to finish last season and if my memory serves me correct he was still moaning about being a substitute until febuary meaning he hadn't even earned his first team place

whatawaster

Bubs101 wrote: »

I don't see the difference between a disease and an injury. If he missed massive amounts of games, he missed massive amounts of games. Also, although I do like him, the fact Liverpool were willing to loan him out makes me dubious if I'm looking at him through rose tinted glasses.

Also, on Walcott, he only has 54 premiership games, alot of the early ones were bad and alot of them were substitute appearances as well

because injuries like hamstrings tears, ligament damage etc tend to recur. As far as i know, his condition isn't one that recurs.

I don't like the Walcott pick either. I also have never rated Bentley, but there is a lack of quality wingers available i suppose.

whatawaster

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Took Djorkaeff, leaving team as follows:

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Friedel

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Finnan

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Walker

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Desailly

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Hinchcliffe

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Vieira

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Ginola

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Djorkaeff

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Kewell

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Sutton

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????

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Interestingly, none of the above will be team captain. Taking him with my next pick (he'll definitely be there for me barring some major miracle).

nice team, but a little light in midfield perhaps. As good as Viera is.

LuckyLloyd

bohsman wrote: »

I think we´re both nuts picking Fulham strikers.

Ah hah - you've got a good read on me! :pac:

Maybe, maybe not. I think the guy I'm going to take would thrive with good and consistent delivery from my wide men, and he was the focal point for that Fulham team as he was such a good all - round competitor. I'm sure to get some stick for it, but I'll argue my case!

whatawaster wrote: »

nice team, but a little light in midfield perhaps. As good as Viera is.

Well, I think my back four + Vieira compensates for the fact that I have three lightweight players in midfield. Finnan and Hinchcliffe will be extremely solid behind Kewell and Ginola; and Djorkaeff has one of the greatest ball winners the premiership has ever seen to lend a dig out. My two strikers are going to be incredibly hard working also.

So yes, there is a potential defensive weak point - but I do believe I have enough balance in the side.

Iago

pick made and PM sent. Given the picks available to me in this draft I'm really happy with how my team is shaping up.

eagle eye

whatawaster wrote: »

nice team, but a little light in midfield perhaps. As good as Viera is.

The bigger problem with his team is the amount of injuries racked up by those players. You'd be sweating on them seeing out 90 minutes in every game.