Premiership Player Draft - Discussion Only

LuckyLloyd

Need to note it here aswell: the fact Matt Elliott wasn't picked is a complete bafflement to me.

Mr.Nice Guy

My write-up is in. Took me bloody ages. :pac:

titan18

Write-up in.Took along time to write that.Sorry about the pictures too.

shoutman

Matt Elliott was one on my mind, but I felt that despite his age, McGrath was still physical enough during his time in the premiership, hence I went with short.

LuckyLloyd

shoutman wrote: »

Matt Elliott was one on my mind, but I felt that despite his age, McGrath was still physical enough during his time in the premiership, hence I went with short.

So you think Craig Short > Matt Elliott?

whatawaster

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Need to note it here aswell: the fact Matt Elliott wasn't picked is a complete bafflement to me.

I'm surprised Steve Howey wasn't picked either.

shoutman

I think Short fits along nicely with McGrath.

Bubs101

As much as I like Frisbee naming the team after High School Musical any 3 man defence with Neill as the lone centre back is going to concede a truck load of goals

Frisbee

Bubs101 wrote: »

As much as I like Frisbee naming the team after High School Musical any 3 man defence with Neill as the lone centre back is going to concede a truck load of goals

It was actually in the Simpsons first...

"Who are we?"
"THE WILDCATS!"

"Who we gonna beat?"
"THE WILDCATS!"

whatawaster

Bubs101 wrote: »

As much as I like Frisbee naming the team after High School Musical any 3 man defence with Neill as the lone centre back is going to concede a truck load of goals

one centre back. i thought i was seeing things.

eagle eye

mayordenis wrote: »

Add to that Sol Campbell and Agger's "inexperience" becomes less of an Issue having the best centre back to ever grace the premiership beside him makes this an excellent partnership for me.

I respect a lot of what you say on here, but jeebus man, what drugs are you on today?

No doubt he was and is a good one, but this is just laughable.

Bubs101

Top 3 undoubtably, number 1 arguabley

Bounty Hunter

cant remember whos team it was but i really like the look of the team that has this as its backbone

Lehman
McGrath
Gerrard
Drogba

especially when you add in that Tevez and Ashley Young are also in there

eagle eye

Bubs101 wrote: »

Top 3 undoubtably, number 1 arguabley

So you have him ahead of a number of the following, McGrath, Adams, Stam, Terry, Vidic, Laursen, Southgate, Hypia, Pallister, Bruce, Radebe, Ferdinand.

I'd definitely put him in the mix, but I have at least five of them ahead of him and there are more that I can't think of right now.

Bounty Hunter

eagle eye wrote: »

So you have him ahead of a number of the following, McGrath, Adams, Stam, Terry, Vidic, Laursen, Southgate, Hypia, Pallister, Bruce, Radebe, Ferdinand.

I'd definitely put him in the mix, but I have at least five of them ahead of him and there are more that I can't think of right now.

Carvahlo should be in that list too, lotta competition for Cambell imo, he might be in the top 5 but i wouldent say no.1

Bubs101

eagle eye wrote: »

So you have him ahead of a number of the following, McGrath, Adams, Stam, Terry, Vidic, Laursen, Southgate, Hypia, Pallister, Bruce, Radebe, Ferdinand.

I'd definitely put him in the mix, but I have at least five of them ahead of him and there are more that I can't think of right now.

It's difficult but in terms of who I saw alot of Campbell was very consistently good for a long period, the heart of a defense who went unbeaten and had no real weakness. He's certainly better than Adams, Terry,laursen,Southgate,Bruce and Radabe from what I've seen and McGrath apparently only had one good season in the Premiership so I'd put him ahead of him too

mayordenis

eagle eye wrote: »

I respect a lot of what you say on here, but jeebus man, what drugs are you on today?

No doubt he was and is a good one, but this is just laughable.

Sol campbell has to be in everyones top 3 like some siad above and he is more or less the most experienced been in it from the start,
I can understand you disagreeing no problem - it's anything but laughable though.

mayordenis

eagle eye wrote: »

Vidic

this is going to far I know that everyone has a massive hard on for him right now - but Yes Sol Campbell in this type of situation on overall impact in the premier league would absolutely obliterate Nemanja - it's not even close.

eagle eye

mayordenis wrote: »

this is going to far I know that everyone has a massive hard on for him right now - but Yes Sol Campbell in this type of situation on overall impact in the premier league would absolutely obliterate Nemanja - it's not even close.

Well it is actually for me, reason being that the one of the two best defenders of all time imo is named above, that being Paul McGrath.

So my point is that he is definitely not the best to have played in the premier league. I'd personally also put Adams and Pallister ahead of him of those that are retired. There are a couple in the League right now who I rate better than he ever was.

My main point though is that rating him as the best ever ahead of Paul McGrath is laughable.

eagle eye

Bubs101 wrote: »

It's difficult but in terms of who I saw alot of Campbell was very consistently good for a long period, the heart of a defense who went unbeaten and had no real weakness. He's certainly better than Adams, Terry,laursen,Southgate,Bruce and Radabe from what I've seen and McGrath apparently only had one good season in the Premiership so I'd put him ahead of him too

Where did you get this from?

He was magnificent for Villa for first four years of the PL one of which he won player of the year.

Bounty Hunter

Paul McGrath is known as "God" to us Villa fans so you can tell how highly we rated all his time at the club not just one season.

Bubs101

eagle eye wrote: »

Where did you get this from?

He was magnificent for Villa for first four years of the PL one of which he won player of the year.

I think I read it on Lloyd's poker forum draft thread which I was using as a reference. Like I said, I had never seen him in the Premiership, only for Ireland

eagle eye

Bubs101 wrote: »

I think I read it on Lloyd's poker forum draft thread which I was using as a reference. Like I said, I had never seen him in the Premiership, only for Ireland

Fair enough, but wherever you saw or read it, its completely wrong. He was magnificent for Villa right up to his last year.

shoutman

In most top 11 all time premiership players McGrath is always there, it is not because of his personality and all the good deeds he has done off the pitch, it's because he was a phenomenal defender.

LuckyLloyd

Bubs101 wrote: »

I think I read it on Lloyd's poker forum draft thread which I was using as a reference. Like I said, I had never seen him in the Premiership, only for Ireland

Americans with opinions on football lol.

Mitch Connor

As well as his time at Villa, McGrath was brilliant in his time in the prem with Derby too.

shoutman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Americans with opinions on football lol.

Surely you mean soccer.

shoutman

Whats the craic with this lads? Is someone holding it up or is it just taking time for the next phase of it to get organised/begin?

Frisbee

shoutman wrote: »

Whats the craic with this lads? Is someone holding it up or is it just taking time for the next phase of it to get organised/begin?

There's a lot of people who haven't posted their write up yet.

I reckon we give them till Wednesday, if they haven't done it by then, tough luck and they'll have to do without the benefit of a writeup

Frisbee

Seriously lads can we move this along?

By my reckoning (and correct me if I'm wrong), people who have not submitted a writeup yet are:

gonzovision
Eirebear
Iago
LuckyLloyd
bohsman
Trippie


And people who I'm not sure if what they have written is their write up or not are:

wardie
ditpoker


Can we set a limit for these people to have their write up's submitted and if it's not in by then well then they have to do without one?

Xavi6

Bump

What's the story?

RasTa

Im skiing in Italy at the moment so wont be able to do the writeup until Sunday

LuckyLloyd

Xavi, Frisbee - I'm going to do mine tomorrow. I'll pm all those who have yet to do theirs over the weekend and we'll aim to have the thread up for the next phase by Monday 02 Feb.

eagle eye

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Xavi, Frisbee - I'm going to do mine tomorrow. I'll pm all those who have yet to do theirs over the weekend and we'll aim to have the thread up for the next phase by Monday 02 Feb.

Have you it done yet Lloyd?:pac: a.k.a. bump

Frisbee

Any word on this yet?
It's getting annoying to those of us having done it and a lot of people not bothering or even having the courtesy to explain why they haven't done their write up yet tbh.

titan18

Frisbee wrote: »

Any word on this yet?
It's getting annoying to those of us having done it and a lot of people not bothering or even having the courtesy to explain why they haven't done their write up yet tbh.

Ya, its been a long time since I've done anything for this.

whatawaster

yeah it's a shame this seems to be fizzling out at this stage

whatawaster

this is getting a bit ridiculous to be honest. if people haven't time to do big write ups then fair enough, but you should just post your final team and then we can get on with it.
fair enough if you have been away for whatever reason, that can't be the case for everyone though.

Frisbee

whatawaster wrote: »

fair enough if you have been away for whatever reason, that can't be the case for everyone though.

It's not. I've seen several people posting.
I wouldn't have bothered entering this if I'd known it would fall apart at the end.
And I don't know why those who haven't submitted their team bothered either tbh.

eagle eye

Frisbee wrote: »

It's not. I've seen several people posting.
I wouldn't have bothered entering this if I'd known it would fall apart at the end.
And I don't know why those who haven't submitted their team bothered either tbh.

Well I can understand it to be fair, as soon as they seen my full team go up, they knew they had no chance so just decided not to bother.:)

Frisbee

eagle eye wrote: »

Well I can understand it to be fair, as soon as they seen my full team go up, they knew they had no chance so just decided not to bother.:)

Aye that makes sense alright :cool:

LuckyLloyd

Ok - I've dropped the ball and I apologize. I'll make it up, promise! :pac:

Frisbee

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Ok - I've dropped the ball and I apologize. I'll make it up, promise! :pac:

I can't believe I ever believed in you.... :pac:

Xavi6

Aaaaaaaand back to page 1 you go

LuckyLloyd

Bump :pac:

Don't worry Xavi, I'll make it up to ye tomorrow.

whatawaster

Bump.

I'll do the write ups for you all myself. And i won't be complimentary!

RasTa

I won't be doing any writeup so you can skip me for that part. I'll do up a formation when I get time.

I'm doing 60 hour weeks in work atm.

Mr.Nice Guy

We all know mine is the best team anyway so if yis want to just award me the win now that's fair enough. :cool:

Racing Flat

If this is stalling, maybe people are being asked to do too much... Perhaps a cup competition? A random draw and the two teams get posted up and readers can thank whichever team they think would win and that team progresses to the next round, the other team is out. No need for write ups, let readers make their own minds up on the merits of the team based on the players. None of my business I know but enjoyed the team selection bit, looking forward to the next bit.

Bubs101

Just start it now, those who haven't done the write up clearly can't have that much interest in it now and it's unfair to penalise those who have. By the time everyone actually finishes the write ups the second wrestling one will be in full swing, hint hint MNG