Premiership Player Draft - Discussion Only

LuckyLloyd

Iago wrote: »

yup, pm'ed him yesterday around 17.30.

Cheers. Eirebear is up at 17.30 so.

Melion

Sorry, i was in work all night last night and all day today. Im going to put up my pick now in a minute.

Frisbee

I really wouldnt call Gary Nevill the greatest right back in Premier League History.
Part of one of the best teams. Not best in his position...

Bubs101

Frisbee wrote: »

I really wouldnt call Gary Nevill the greatest right back in Premier League History.
Part of one of the best teams. Not best in his position...

Think the crest at the bottom of your sig might be influencing that, he was in five of the 10 PFA teams of the year from 1997 to 2007 and he was too injured to be considered for 2008. Also, I think his success and awards alone would take him away from the hooveresque other great right back I was referring to in my post and I assume you're referring to here.

shoutman

I think Neville was one the best right back in premiership history, still don't think he has the ability to deal with some of the star left wingers though...

He was solid and consistent but not the most talented imo.

Wreck

Sheringham is a great pick, one I had hoped would slip through to me towards the end of this round.

Mr.Nice Guy

I think Gary Neville is the best right back in Premiership history by some margin. No other player has been as consistently good in that position as he's been. I imagine he was one of Fergie's first names on the sheet. Very assured at the back and dangerous going forward.

Eirebear

Sheringham was gonna be my pick there, never mind ill work on my back line for a while.

Wreck

Adams should have been picked ages ago. A fantastic defender, great leader of a team and scorer of my favorite Arsenal goal of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUAhxFlWQdE

Dont be at yourself

Balls, I was hoping for Adams too! Can't believe some of the players picked ahead of him!

whatawaster

Adams should have been picked long ago. Him and McGrath were a cut above the rest of the centre backs. How Bruce and Pallister and even Desailly were picked ahead of him i'll never know.

RasTa

Desailly >>>>>>>>>>> Adams... that's why. He was a tall donkey, good for the 80's

Mr.Nice Guy

RasTa wrote: »

Desailly >>>>>>>>>>> Adams... that's why. He was a tall donkey, good for the 80's

As well as the 90's and 00's. He won the league in three different decades. How many players can say that? To call him a donkey is farcical stuff.

Wreck

RasTa wrote: »

He was a tall donkey, good for the 80's

Couldn't disagree with you more. Adams was the leader, organiser and best all round defender in the most feared and effective priemership defence of all time. He was a phenomenal defender, and as part of Wenger's Arsenal revolution for six seasons showed he could play good football also. Dominant in the air, tough in the tackle and a great reader of the game.

RasTa

Wreck wrote: »

Couldn't disagree with you more. Adams was the leader, organiser and best all round defender in the most feared and effective priemership defence of all time. He was a phenomenal defender, and as part of Wenger's Arsenal revolution for six seasons showed he could play good football also. Dominant in the air, tough in the tackle and a great reader of the game.

With no pace....I mean your calling him a cut above Desalliy ffs and going on about how he was the best center back ever to grace the premiership.

Eirebear

RasTa wrote: »

With no pace....I mean your calling him a cut above Desalliy ffs and going on about how he was the best center back ever to grace the premiership.

He did lack pace, but his positional sense was second to none meaning that he had an extra yard to make up for that.

Wreck

RasTa wrote: »

With no pace....I mean your calling him a cut above Desalliy ffs and going on about how he was the best center back ever to grace the premiership.

Look, he may not be the best centre back ever, but he is most definitely in the top 5, and well above the likes of Bruce and Palister who were picked ahead of him. But there's not much point in discussing this with someone who considers him a donkey who was ok in the 80's.

Dont be at yourself

You can't ignore his fantastic leadership and organisational skills either. Arsenal had the most well-drilled, solid defense in the league for years and years, and much of that was down to Adams.

RasTa

Wreck wrote: »

Look, he may not be the best centre back ever, but he is most definitely in the top 5, and well above the likes of Bruce and Palister who were picked ahead of him. But there's not much point in discussing this with someone who considers him a donkey who was ok in the 80's.

Rubbish and he only looks like a donkey. He ain't top 5 Premiership center backs that's for sure.

eagle eye

RasTa wrote: »

Rubbish and he only looks like a donkey. He ain't top 5 Premiership center backs that's for sure.

There must be bias here. Tony Adams was a rock for his entire career. He was certainly one of the most consistent defenders in the history of the premier league.

I don't know why you are so against his inclusion as one of the best, he clearly was right up there.

Necronomicon

Damn you Eirebear. I was one person away from getting my next pick!!

May have to think a bit on this...

Xavi6

Bah Sheringham was the one I wanted for my 'behind the striker' role.

Eirebear

Necronomicon wrote: »

Damn you Eirebear. I was one person away from getting my next pick!!

May have to think a bit on this...

lol the same happened to me with sheringham, i reckon he would have been the perfet player alongside wright.

I hadnt been keping up with th thread for the last couple of days so i was really suprised that Adams hadnt gone yet

Dont be at yourself

Damn you Eirebear. I was one person away from getting my next pick!!

May have to think a bit on this...

Come on, come on, let me pick before bed-time!

I certainly hope you don't pick Djimi Traore before I do!

Eirebear

Interesting how things are panning out now.
I spent a wee while deliberating wether to pick Stam or Adams this round, i figured Stam might be one of the ones who slipped under the radar though.

Good Choice Necro

mayordenis

Jesus what are all the united fans going to do when the big names are all done with, I assume some biased united fan will be snapping up kleberson, djemba-djemba, veron and forlan pretty soon. (joke btw)

Dont be at yourself

While some of the earlier picks do smack a little of club bias, I don't think you can really argue with Stam. If he hadn't been taken, I probably would have picked him myself.

Xavi6

Ah ffs my dream partnership of Sheringham and Jimmy is in tatters :mad:

Now where's that drawing board?

mayordenis

I must say this is painfully slow, I really think we need more in the way of a time limit.
just my opinion.

Bubs101

mayordenis wrote: »

I must say this is painfully slow, I really think we need more in the way of a time limit.
just my opinion.

From the history of the wrestling draft, it's the fairest time delay although i do think there should be a penalty for missing your go like having to wait until the end of the round. Generally speaking, what tends to happen is that you'll go through quite spots with posters who have a post count of less than say 1,500 but occasionally you get a block of mods or people who spend inordinate amount of time on the soccer board and it flies.

Stam and Jimmy are great picks. Thought people would forget about Stam. Had it not have been for telling the truth in his biography he would have been much more fondly remembered

Xavi6

Tick tock!

No picks today so far.....

Xavi6

Ah for jaysis sake, I had Speed as a top pick as well. Lost a lot off my shortlist in this round.

Frisbee

Damn you!
I was sure Speed wouldnt get picked!

Idu

Picked and PM sent

eagle eye

Gary Speed is an excellent pick.

Mr.Nice Guy

It didn't take long for the best left-back to go.

Trippie

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

It didn't take long for the best left-back to go.

it was said before that he was the best right back too

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

It didn't take long for the best left-back to go.

Djimi Traore gone already?!:D

titan18

It was a choice between him and a certain right back,and I'm a united fan so went for Irwin

Trippie

playa3 wrote: »

Djimi Traore gone already?!:D

I actually think we should offer some prize of some sort to a person who picks Djimi.

Necronomicon

I think full-backs are going to be at a serious premium. Might have to play a 3-5-2 or something

Bubs101

Necronomicon wrote: »

I think full-backs are going to be at a serious premium. Might have to play a 3-5-2 or something

I agree, I think in general, the Premier League has much less depth in that postion. Was tooing and froing between Irwin and Neville but ended up with Gary because I needed a captain and I think that there's a higher quality of left backs lower down the pecking order than right backs

eagle eye

Denis Irwin was a great player but I'm surprised to see him picked so early.
I remember Paul McGrath being interviewed about full backs and he explained the difference between a certain England international and Denis Irwin. It was something like this, you hear a lot about (england international) and the way he recovers from a missed tackle to get back and get the ball, but with Denis Irwin, he doesn't make the mistake in the first place so you never hear his name mentioned that much.

mayordenis

You took my gary speed
****

Xavi6

Well with Franky Lamps going just before I was about to pick him I've had a bit of a rethink.

titan18

Good pick with Les Ferdinand

LuckyLloyd

titan18 wrote: »

Good pick with Les Ferdinand

Ya, aside from his obvious ability - he also gets points for good temperament, longevity and consistency.

Xavi6

24 hours have been and gone...

eirebhoy

I don't know how this thing is working but if you have Lampard you wanna have the right team. He's very much a luxury player in that you'd have to build the team around him. In fact, you could replace him with 1 central midfielder from many a premiership club and probably make their team worse. He's great at what he does, the best in the world, but far from the best central midfielder.

LuckyLloyd

Xavi6 wrote: »

24 hours have been and gone...

I've pm'd wardie and gonzovision. Wardie is on the clock and gonzovision will need to post a pick whenever he gets the chance.

It is inevitable that we will see some slowdown at the weekends.