Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Is it any wonder this country is on it's knees???

13»

Comments

  • #102
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    ziggy wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    "Ausländer" can be just as intimidating for non-nationals living in Germany.


  • #103
    TheEnforcer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭TheEnforcer


    Kintarō Hattori wrote: »
    Why hasn't anyone reported him if the wife and kids are in Poland? No report - no right to complain.

    What makes you think that because his family are in Poland he cannot claim here, this the EU we are talking about.

    I bet half you lot voted YES to Lisbon, and now you are yapping about stuff like this.

    This is all part of the socialisation agenda. The EU is a farce, a small unelected elite run the show and a massive lower class. If you had not noticed the middle class is being wiped out, intentionally.


  • #104
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Blush_01 wrote: »
    as they live in another country and are entitled to child benefit there, why are we also paying for it?

    Well we're paying the balance, not the whole thing. Not that it makes much difference, but still
    il gatto wrote: »
    Child benefit would come under the rights and entitlements of the family, not the employee. His rights are that of the employee. Why anyone would think the Irish state should be paying child benefit for children not living here is beyond me. The E.U. is a union of sovereign nation states. We have no obligation to do it. Do we pay the same for children worldwide with a parent here?QUOTE]

    In theory I think the idea of EU states paying the balance in child benefit is a great idea. It encourages movement of the workforce between all EU countries freely and with as few barriers as possible.
    However, I don't think with the way things are it's going to work. And the theory shouldn't be put into practice until the value of €1 is very similar in every EU country.
    I'd go on but this guy took most of the words out of my mouth......
    ronbyrne2005 wrote: »
    The system across europe doesnt allow for the vast income/cost of living/minimum wage/taxation dissparities across Europe. A pole with kids could come here to do a low skill job like retail at minimum wage and get the child benefit thing and the benefit could amount to more than he would get for doing same job in Poland! Bit mad. Wait till Romania etc have full free access to UK, Ireland etc, this will become rife. In principle I have no problem with kids getting benefit from another country if their parents are working there once there is no perverse incentives. We are a small country with nearly highest minimum wage and some of best welfare payments in EU so we would be a prime target for welfare tourism and even low skill workers from poor EU countries coming here and taking minimum wage jobs as they are still way better off than working in home country. We have enough locals losing jobs as it is, and they have'nt got the benefit of much lower cost of living and cost of raising kids that those with kids in eastern europe do. So basically the system should only pay people relative to the cost of living where the kids live.
    TheEnforcer wrote: »
    What makes you think that because his family are in Poland he cannot claim here, this the EU we are talking about.

    I bet half you lot voted YES to Lisbon, and now you are yapping about stuff like this.

    This is all part of the socialisation agenda. The EU is a farce, a small unelected elite run the show and a massive lower class. If you had not noticed the middle class is being wiped out, intentionally.

    What does the Lisbon treaty have to do with it? This child benefit system exists even though the Lisbon treaty was rejected.

    Just because you're anti-EU doesn't mean we should reject every treaty they throw at us


  • #105
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    If these EU citizens are employed and paying their taxes then they are entitled to all the benefits of tax payers in this country whether their children are here or not.

    Complaining about people sending money home to their families is also extremely hypocritical because we Irish did it from the US and from the UK in the past.

    The one issue I have with child benefit is that it seems to be paid at the same level no matter what income people have. I would propose that there is a sliding scale where below the average industrail wage the full amount is paid, above the wage it is reduced by 25%, at twice the wage it halves and at 3 times the amount it is gone.

    I think far more monies would be saved if the idlier and wasters who have done nothing but sponge from their country are weeded out and made work, either by removing benefits from them in a phased manner or forcing them into community work projects.

    Lastly I find it depressing that some people in this country are now sounding like recruitment agents for the BNP at their worst.


Advertisement