Midweek Prem League Thread

mike65

Newcastle v West Brom, 19:45----HOME

Wednesday, 29 October 2008

Arsenal v Tottenham, 20:00

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HOME
Aston Villa v Blackburn, 19:45

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HOME
Bolton v Everton, 20:00

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AWAY
Fulham v Wigan, 19:45

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DRAW
Hull v Chelsea, 19:45

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HOME!
Liverpool v Portsmouth, 20:00

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DRAW
Man Utd v West Ham, 20:00

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HOME
Middlesbrough v Man City, 20:00 --DRAW
Stoke v Sunderland, 19:45

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AWAY

Mike

Charlie

An absolute must win for the Toon tonight. As much as I appreciate the good work he is doing for us, I thought Saturday really showed up JFK's lack of tactical awareness. 3 pt.s and there is a strong possibilty of getting out of the relegation zone (factoring in tomorrows fixtures). That is a must for us now, from a psychological POV.

I'd love to see us line up like this tonight:

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Given

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Beye---Taylor---Colo---Seb

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Barton----Guthrie

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Spidey

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Duff

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Charlie--

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Martins

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Oba proved at Old Trafford that he can play up top on his own, and with Duff, Jonas, and Charlie N'Zog all in support, we have plenty of pace and creativity charging forward. Barton and Guthrie lying deep will hopefully give our back 4 some much needed protection, and both are good enough passers of the ball to play the ball out of our defence, rather than just launching it upfield in hope.

However, I have a feeling JFK will go 4-4-2 with places for Geremi and Shola in the team.

MementoMori

Newcastle v West Brom, 19:45----HOME

Wednesday, 29 October 2008

Arsenal v Tottenham, 20:00

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HOME
Aston Villa v Blackburn, 19:45

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HOME
Bolton v Everton, 20:00

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DRAW
Fulham v Wigan, 19:45

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DRAW
Hull v Chelsea, 19:45

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HOME
Liverpool v Portsmouth, 20:00

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HOME
Man Utd v West Ham, 20:00

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HOME
Middlesbrough v Man City, 20:00 --AWAY
Stoke v Sunderland, 19:45

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AWAY

monkey9

Newcastle v West Brom, 19:45----HOME

Wednesday, 29 October 2008

Arsenal v Tottenham, 20:00

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HOME
Aston Villa v Blackburn, 19:45

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HOME
Bolton v Everton, 20:00

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DRAW
Fulham v Wigan, 19:45

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DRAW
Hull v Chelsea, 19:45

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AWAY
Liverpool v Portsmouth, 20:00

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HOME
Man Utd v West Ham, 20:00

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HOME
Middlesbrough v Man City, 20:00 --DRAW
Stoke v Sunderland, 19:45

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DRAW

MementoMori

charlie mchugh wrote: »

An absolute must win for the Toon tonight. As much as I appreciate the good work he is doing for us, I thought Saturday really showed up JFK's lack of tactical awareness. 3 pt.s and there is a strong possibilty of getting out of the relegation zone (factoring in tomorrows fixtures). That is a must for us now, from a psychological POV.

I'd love to see us line up like this tonight:

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Given

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Beye---Taylor---Colo---Seb

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Barton----Guthrie

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Spidey

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Duff

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Charlie--

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Martins

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Oba proved at Old Trafford that he can play up top on his own, and with Duff, Jonas, and Charlie N'Zog all in support, we have plenty of pace and creativity charging forward. Barton and Guthrie lying deep will hopefully give our back 4 some much needed protection, and both are good enough passers of the ball to play the ball out of our defence, rather than just launching it upfield in hope.

However, I have a feeling JFK will go 4-4-2 with places for Geremi and Shola in the team.

That looks like a very solid formation.

From what I saw of the Newcastle game it looked like Sunderland won a lot more of the midfield battle (Guthrie getting booked early and Butt getting injured obv didnt help - I thought Butt should have been replaced by Barton much earlier as he clearly wasnt up to it ) I would imagine a Barton Guthrie midfield should be well capable against a West Brom midfield.

Is there any possibility that it could be the same team but in a more orthodox 4-4-2? (or even a 4-4-1-1 with either Duff or Spider playing off Martins?)

Charlie

MementoMori wrote: »

That looks like a very solid formation.

From what I saw of the Newcastle game it looked like Sunderland won a lot more of the midfield battle (Guthrie getting booked early and Butt getting injured obv didnt help - I thought Butt should have been replaced by Barton much earlier as he clearly wasnt up to it ) I would imagine a Barton Guthrie midfield should be well capable against a West Brom midfield.

Is there any possibility that it could be the same team but in a more orthodox 4-4-2? (or even a 4-4-1-1 with either Duff or Spider playing off Martins?)

Agreed. Barton should have been on at HT, as should have Spiderman for Geremi. This, coupled with Joe's baffling decision to swap Bassong for Enrique (why make a defensive substitution, but if he was going to do so, at least bring on Charlie N'Zog who can charge forward from LB) leads me to believe he hasn't got a lot in his locker when it comes to tactics.

Like I said, he'll probably will go 4-4-2, with Shola playing, hence no auxiliary role for Duff or Spidey. I also have a feeling he'll play Geremi who, for the one or two decent balls he whips in, is far too slow, and gets caught in possession because of it.

For me, we need to go with the formation I previously set out, or something like it. For far too many games, we have struggled to get going in the first 20 mins, and go a goal behind. Playing at home, and against WBA, we should have the confidence to go and attack, get the early goal, and build on it. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea, but this is what Keegan would do, and this is why we like his football.

Frisbee

Newcastle v West Brom, 19:45----DRAW

Arsenal v Tottenham, 20:00

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HOME
Aston Villa v Blackburn, 19:45

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HOME
Bolton v Everton, 20:00

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AWAY
Fulham v Wigan, 19:45

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AWAY
Hull v Chelsea, 19:45

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AWAY
Liverpool v Portsmouth, 20:00

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AWAY
Man Utd v West Ham, 20:00

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HOME
Middlesbrough v Man City, 20:00 --AWAY
Stoke v Sunderland, 19:45

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AWAY


I reckon Pompey will derail Pool this week. Don't think I've ever picked so many away wins before...

Charlie

Newcastle team is in:

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Given

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Beye---Taylor----Colo---Enrique

Duff---Guthrie---Barton---Jonas

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Martins---Shola

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At least Butty and Geremi are out. Would've still liked to see us move away from 4-4-2 and go with a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, with Shola hitting the bench and Charlie N'Zog getting a look in.

Jeez, Sir Bobby on now, showing his hair loss. It makes me a little sad inside that he has to endure the Toon the way they are these days with what he is going through. Mike Ashley could have learnt more in a day listening to this man, than the year he has spent listening to Wise, Jiminez and his other sycophants.

Im_No_Superman

Newcastle 1 up. Peno from who else but Joey Barton! :eek:

Wreck

Newcastle 1-0 up - Joey Barton with a peno. Was actually going to put money on him to score first just to piss off one of the lads in the office lol. Did back Newcastle, and fancy them to score again now.

Charlie

Fair stones to Joey for taking the pen, a nice one at that. He really ahs looked a touch of class in the opening 25, as has Gutierez. Really shows how badly we have been missing that bit of quality in the midfield.

Oba looks a little rusty, but I wouldn't be suprised to see him score a screamer. Duff has looked good, and has played some lovely through balls.

Howay the lads!!!

Villain

Newcastle are playing well and Duff looks lively again, the convict is behaving himself so far.

Charlie

Spiderman



How we've missed him.

Edit: 2 nil Oba. Was just about to type that we need to convert these chances.

Wreck

2-0 Newcastle, Martins with a soft header.

Guy:Incognito

2-0 Newcastle.


24 today. If you believe that............:D



In other news, Kanu has all the lads over for his 21st.

Im_No_Superman

Stekelly wrote: »

2-0 Newcastle.


24 today. If you believe that............:D



In other news, Kanu has all the lads over for his 21st.

Lol had alittle chuckle myself when the commentator said that aswell.

Guy:Incognito

Watching the HT replays of the goal again. Seriously , what are players payed thousands of pounds a week for if they jump out of the way of headers?:rolleyes:

Pathetic really. "oh no, the hard ball will hit me in the chest"

mike65

JFK is the man!

Mike

Charlie

The back 4 caught out, yet again. 2-1

Really need to kill this game, as we should have in the first half.

Guy:Incognito

Duff is overrunning a few of his runs. A couple of times he went by one or two players then kept running at more and loosing it instead fo laying it off or playign through balls to players in better positions.

Villain

Same old story, can't defend.

Charlie

JFK really playing russian roulette taking off Jonas for Geremi.

Villain

You have to wonder why Miller didn't start he is a real handful.

Charlie

Thank fook for that, hanging on by a inch there.

Good performaces by most, but in particular; Duff, Barton, Enrique, and Spiderman.

But seriously, what the fcuk was JFK playing at. Again, he got his subs badly wrong, and the way we dropped back for the last 20 mins was suicidal.

Still, a badly needed 3 pts, and we've now reached the lofty heights of 15th

M5

manager has to shoulder the blame for that second half, we were in almost complete control in the first half, WBA had lots of the ball and played impressive football but with no end product. we were direct and showed glimpses of what we should be playing like. we put together some nice moves. Then after the break we had 9/10 men behind the ball, no support for martins/ameobi or for duff/jonas when they pushed forward.We let them into the game and they gained confidence from passing the ball around us and constantlyreceiving the ball back due to our isolated forwards

When they scored our fragile confidence really showed. Thats what really annoys me, we had an oppertunity to instill some confidence by rattling in few and maybe a clean sheet! i'd love to know what the rational for our second half tactics was, i Mean we are hardly a solid defensive unit!!!!!!

eagle eye

Just looking at tonights games, I'd expect to see the top four all win. While Hull have been excellent so far this season, I think Chelsea have too much class all over the pitch for them.
I think Wigan and Aston Villa are both going to win also. Wigan have been impressive against mediocre teams and thats what they face tonight.
I'm a Blackburn fan and we have been very poor in general and I cannot see us holding Villa tonight, I'd expect them to win by at least two goals.

Its an important night in that United, Arsenal and Liverpool are all pretty much expected to pick up full points tonight. None of them can afford to slip up in these types of games. Of course Harry could have Tottenham up for it tonight but I think its just a little to early to see any fireworks from that team.

emc2

eagle eye wrote: »

Just looking at tonights games, I'd expect to see the top four all win.

2nd play 3rd so I am not sure how this will work!

eagle eye

charlie mchugh wrote: »

Thank fook for that, hanging on by a inch there.

Good performaces by most, but in particular; Duff, Barton, Enrique, and Spiderman.

But seriously, what the fcuk was JFK playing at. Again, he got his subs badly wrong, and the way we dropped back for the last 20 mins was suicidal.

Still, a badly needed 3 pts, and we've now reached the lofty heights of 15th

I don't think he did much wrong last night, its the lack of a top goalscorer that was the problem. Even in the second half a decent frontman would have surely wrapped the game up with the chances that Newcastle had. While Ameobi is going to work hard all night he has zero confidence in front of goal and I think he was right to take off Martins when he did, he is only back and he gave him a long run and also he gets to hear the crowd praise him for his goal and his good work and that can only help to build his confidence.
I agree with you on the best players though, Barton was particlulary impressive given all that has happened and the pressure of last night. I wonder if he is receiving counselling as I noticed there was not the usual scowl on his face at any point. He looked calm, relaxed and in control all night and not one attempt at a reckless challenge.
Duff is coming back to his best form and looked dangerous all night, he also worked tirelessly and ran himself ragged.
Spiderman was the most impressive for me last night, he beat players regularly and always looked a serious threat.
Enrique was immense also.

eagle eye

emc2 wrote: »

2nd play 3rd so I am not sure how this will work!

A little picky there, I think you know what I meant, the BIG FOUR then to make you happy.

Charlie

Eagle Eye, my problem was who he replaced who with. When taking Spiderman off, he should have put on Charlie N'Zog, a player who has tons of pace, and likes to charge forward. I would have left Oba. If he's fit enough to go 75 mins, he ca see out the other 15. However, if a change had to be made, he should have popped another midfielder on, and played Duff as an auxiliary striker.

But my main problem is, a M5 points out, that the fact that we sat back for so long, ad invited West Brom to have a go. Its all well and good to say that had we had a top class goalscorer we would have wrapped it up, but I would say the same about WBA, because on their second half showing, they created more than enough chances to nick the game.

Overall, I just felt the performance reeked of desperation from Joe. We squandered a good opportunity to really build confidence by knocking 3 or 4 past them, and keeping a clean sheet at the back. I don't want to sound like a harsh bastard, but the derby and last night were reasons enough for me why JFK shouldn't get the job full time. If we play like that against Villa, we will get destroyed.

One thing about Barton that I was really pleased t see was that on two occasions, I saw him with his arms around Colocini and Enrique, offering them words of advice. Both of these lads are young, and don't have great English. I am sure they also aren't used to the atmosphere of a relegation dogfight. It was great to see Joey supporting them, and making them feel important, as too many young foreigners have drifted by the wayside with us over the last no. of years.

mike65

Chelsea 1 up Lampard

Mike

Charlie

mike65 wrote: »

Chelsea 1 up Lampard

Mike

That boy really has an appetite for goals. Bad-dum!

Helix

carew benched again for villa

glenjamin

Any links for the Boro v City game?

Guy:Incognito

That Bentley is ****e.

Im_No_Superman

Definite goal of the season contender from Bentley! Absolute beauty!

Chardee MacDennis

Stekelly wrote: »

That Bentley is ****e.

ninja edit ftw

Helix

1-0 blackburn

bum agus sack

Guy:Incognito

BastardPrince wrote: »

ninja edit ftw

Figured I should put in the smilie. Certain folks round here need it spelled out for them.:)

shoutman

Villa losing 1-0, Warnock with the goal.

_blank_

is motd on later?

An Citeog

Des wrote: »

is motd on later?

Yeah, at 11.55pm

glenjamin

Gary O'Neil's first ever goal for Boro seals it. 2-0!

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike65

10 games gone so its got some validity.



Mike

Xavi6

Cheated out of it again. Penalty my arse.