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Low Carb Dinner/Lunch ideas

  • 29-10-2008 12:38pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    A quick question,

    I am making up small meals for dinner and lunches in work so they are ready to heat up and eat and not going buying chicken rolls, fast food or whatever...

    Here's the catch...

    Whats is good? I am trying to loose a bit of weight...

    So far I've been getting chicken, turkey or some type of beef and mixing it with a little pasta or rice, loads of veg and a probably tomato sauce, maybe curry for taste.

    Now I read that rice and pasta are NOT good, and I should not eat them. All carbs.
    I started using loads of green veg and mushrooms but these are all carbs and I should eat them.
    And in general sauces are bad...

    What sort of a meal should I be eating. A small chicken breast isn't very much at all for a meal on its own, even if I'm loosing weight I still need to function and you'd get pretty sick of trying to eat a try chicken breat every meal.

    I've looked around a lot but I'm not getting it, everything seems to be full of carbs and bad for me if it tastes any tiny bit nice or helps to make a meal!?!?!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Moved to Nutrition & Diet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    GrayD wrote: »
    Hi All,

    A quick question,

    I am making up small meals for dinner and lunches in work so they are ready to heat up and eat and not going buying chicken rolls, fast food or whatever...

    Here's the catch...

    Whats is good? I am trying to loose a bit of weight...

    So far I've been getting chicken, turkey or some type of beef and mixing it with a little pasta or rice, loads of veg and a probably tomato sauce, maybe curry for taste.

    Now I read that rice and pasta are NOT good, and I should not eat them. All carbs.
    I started using loads of green veg and mushrooms but these are all carbs and I should eat them.
    And in general sauces are bad...

    What sort of a meal should I be eating. A small chicken breast isn't very much at all for a meal on its own, even if I'm loosing weight I still need to function and you'd get pretty sick of trying to eat a try chicken breat every meal.

    I've looked around a lot but I'm not getting it, everything seems to be full of carbs and bad for me if it tastes any tiny bit nice or helps to make a meal!?!?!

    whatever about rice / pasta you should NOT avoid eating salad / vegetables with the chicken because of their carb content, and especially not green vegetables .. i think green veg like brocolli and green beans etc are one of the few things you can eat as much as you want of without any negative consequences :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Eat lots of veg. Anything green or leafy is fair game. Avocado, asparagus, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, bokchoy, cauliflower, chard, cucumber, celery, celeriac, dandelion, endive, fennel, green beans, kale, leeks, mushrooms, spring onion, peppers, olives, spinach, radish, rhubarb, pumpkin, aubergine, courgette, mangetout, spinach, beansprouts, beet greens, watercress are all really low carb.

    You can make almost anything that you normally make with carbs, and eat it with some of those veg instead. Mashed cauliflower made a great substitute for rice or pasta.

    Look at the thread about protein recipes, I've just given lots of suggestions for main meals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    It is absolutely possible to lose weight healthily while still eating carbs, just watch your portions, and the kinds of carbs you eat are important.

    Wholewheat pasta and brown rice are good. Bread is not great because it is hard to limit it to a slice...we tend to eat tons of the stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    Bread is not great because it is hard to limit it to a slice...we tend to eat tons of the stuff.

    Speak for yourself. It's a complete fallacy to suggest bread is harder to portion control than other foods.Anyone eating tons of bread most likely has an eating disorder and should think about having counselling.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    No need to go overboard there cozmik. Bread has been identified as a trigger food by lots of food specialists as in, a food that a lot of people find hard to stop eating. It's not at all a fallacy - it is excluded from the WW Core plan for that very reason. I'm not disputing its nutritional value.

    No need to go carting us all off to the psych ward for eating too much toast! The chances are, if bread is part of your diet, it is likely that you will snack on it, as well as have it in meals. Pasta and rice, however, will probably get confined to your meals. That's all I'm saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    No need to go overboard there cozmik. Bread has been identified as a trigger food by lots of food specialists

    A person who has a healthy relationship with food does not have "trigger foods" but people suffering from eating disorders do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    I think brandishing bread-lovers as having eating disorders might indeed be taking it a tad too far - E.D.s are pretty serious, and it makes me a little uncomfortable to see it trivialised like that (that's very much a personal opinion though).

    I think it's possible to be overly fond of bread without having an E.D.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    g'em wrote: »
    I think brandishing bread-lovers as having eating disorders might indeed be taking it a tad too far -

    I notice you have a habit of twisting peoples words. NOWHERE have I branished "bread lovers" as having eating disorders I happen to love the stuff myself but that doesn't mean I'm going to eat tons of it everyday because that isn't normal behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    cozmik wrote: »
    Anyone eating tons of bread most likely has an eating disorder and should think about having counselling.
    Errr....???

    I think you're taking Neuro praxis "eating tons" a bit too literal there Cozmik!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    anniehoo wrote: »
    Errr....???

    I think you're taking Neuro praxis "eating tons" a bit too literal there Cozmik!

    Oh you do? Well I take it to mean excessive amounts if you must know, but if that's not what is meant by "eating tons" then maybe you could enlighten us as to how that phrase should be interpreted :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    What a load of rubbish being spouted by cozmik. People who eat a lot of bread have eating disorders? LOL. Its very easy to get into a habit of having bread with breakfast (poached egg on toast, sambo for lunch, slice or 2 with dinner and some tea and toast at night. Thats about 8 slices right there easily enough and if you think thats an eating disorder i agree with g'em, your trivialising eating disorders. But i suspect your just going off on a rant :rolleyes:

    Go on cozmik, give us an example of how many slices your "eating tons" involves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    cozmik wrote: »
    NOWHERE have I branished "bread lovers" as having eating disorders I happen to love the stuff myself but that doesn't mean I'm going to eat tons of it everyday because that isn't normal behaviour.

    Take it easy cozmik, I'm not trying to twist anything. I'm not interpreting what you said as "those who like bread", I intended "bread-lovers" to mean those who eat a lot of it, as neuro-praxis described.

    neuro-praxis (from how I read her post) said that we have a tendency to eat more bread than we probably should - a couple of pieces of toast for breakfast, two or three pieces of bread in a sandwich, and maybe even another slice of toast before bed would be commonplace in an Irish diet. That's not really 'tons' literally, but it's 'tons' colloqially.

    So please, clarify yourself, what do you constitute as 'tons' of bread because while eating six or seven slices of bread is probably too much, it isn't anything even approaching an eating disorder, it's bad food management.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    OK, this is one of my favourite low carb dinners. I call it Scramblette:

    1 small onion (red or white)
    Olive oil
    various veg, like chopped pepper, celery, spinach, etc
    2 eggs
    cheddar cheese
    chopped ham

    Start frying the chopped onion in the olive oil in a small saucepan/frying pan. After a few minutes, start adding in the veg, depending on how long it will take to cook. You can put the lid on now & leave it for a few mins.
    Add in the chopped ham & cheese (both optional) and then crack in the eggs.
    Stir so that it's mixed, add salt and pepper.

    Yum! Easy, quick, tasty, cheap, low-carb, helps use up left-over veg. What's not to like??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    g'em wrote: »
    That's not really 'tons' literally, but it's 'tons' colloqially.
    You don't say.. :rolleyes:
    g'em wrote: »
    six or seven slices of bread is probably too much, it isn't anything even approaching an eating disorder, it's bad food management.

    You call it bad food managment I call it over eating....
    Question

    How many slices of bread per day is too many?

    Answer

    The average adult will require two to four slices of bread each day. Always look for the densest, grain-based breads you can find as they have the lowest glycaemic index, meaning they are digested more slowly than white and wholemeal breads and hence are more likely to keep you fuller for longer after eating them.

    For non-bread eaters, flat and mountain breads or wholegrain crackers or beans are all good, low-GI carbohydrate choices that you can use as an alternative source of carbohydrate in your diet.

    http://health.ninemsn.com.au/asktheexperts/expert2.aspx?id=272755

    Imho if you have a healthy relationship with food it's not at all hard to limit yourself to a slice or two of bread a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    cozmik wrote: »
    You don't say.. :rolleyes:



    You call it bad food managment I call it over eating....



    http://health.ninemsn.com.au/asktheexperts/expert2.aspx?id=272755

    Imho if you have a healthy relationship with food it's not at all hard to limit yourself to a slice or two of bread a day.

    "Healthy relationship with food" means only having 1 or 2 slices of bread a day does it? Will you ever run and jump with your nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik



    No need to go carting us all off to the psych ward for eating too much toast!

    And there was no need for you to be so dramatic! There is nothing wrong with a bit of counselling.
    I really am in serious combat with atrocious habits, eating tendencies and emotional eating.

    FYI Emotional eating is common trait of those who have eating disorders.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    cozmik wrote: »
    FYI Emotional eating is common trait of those who have eating disorders.
    cozmilk, will you stop insinuating that everyone who has bad eating habits, or emotional eating has an eating disorder. You're not saying it, but you are all but saying it.

    There is a world of difference between disordered eating and an eating disorder. And G'em is just trying to do the right thing to clarify that distinction. It can be upsetting for people who actually have an eating disorder, for the word to be thrown about so flippantly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    I did not in any way indicate that I think everyone who has bad eating habits, or emotional eating has an eating disorder.I suggest you read my post carefully. Read all the words. I took the trouble to write them, you might take the trouble to read them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    The only person who can diagnose an eating disorder is a medical professional.

    There will be no more discussion on what does or does not constitute an E.D.

    Back to the topic at hand.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    cozmilk, you really should drop your bad attitude.

    Low carb dinner recipe:Jamie Oliver's chicken in a bag

    1 chicken fillet
    some wine/stock
    carrots, mushrooms and any other cut in half
    herbs, garlic-chopped up.
    olive oil/butter

    Mix everything together in a bowl.
    Take out your tinfoil and tear off two fairly long sections.
    Place them on top of each other and fold over the edges to create a bag, leaving one end open.
    Tip all the ingredients into the bag and throw it in the oven for about 25 minutes.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Got another one!
    Pizza Chicken Melts:

    2 small chicken breasts
    1 tbsp olive oil
    50g cheddar, grated
    a few cherry tomatoes
    2 tsp pesto
    green salad

    Method:
    Preheat the grill to high.
    Put the chicken breasts between cling film & whack them til they're thin (rolling pin or back of a frying pan).
    Heat the oil in the aforementioned frying pan and cook chicken for 2 minutes on each side.
    While cooking, mix the cheese & tomatoes together.
    Spread the pesto on top of the chicken & add the cheese/tomato mix
    Put under the grill for about a minute until the cheese has melted.
    (You can put tinfoil around the frying panhandle to stop in melting/burning.
    Serve with green salad.

    AND, I have the nutritional info:

    Per serving:

    315 cals
    37g protein
    1g carbs ;)
    18g fat, 8g saturated
    0 fibre
    0.68g salt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    cozmik wrote: »
    And there was no need for you to be so dramatic! There is nothing wrong with a bit of counselling.

    FYI Emotional eating is common trait of those who have eating disorders.

    cozmik I understand that you are now feeling defensive but if you want to quote my food diary and offer advice, why not do it in that thread rather than in this one?

    FYI I've been to counselling, and it was a deeply positive experience, but as anyone who tends to overeat is aware, counselling doesn't just make habits of overeating disappear. Day-to-discipline is still required to beat it. Counselling can get to the bottom of why you overeat, but it can't actually stop you from doing it, more's the pity. :)

    What's more, binging (a very unhealthy practice) is part of the habitual life of most people. Most people, from time to time and sometimes regularly, binge on food and alcohol. It's a product of multiple factors - a major one being access to excess.

    A common binge food for the average person is bread. Therefore, if you are overweight, you've probably eaten your fair share of bread to get you there. It is also a food that is craved regularly.

    Therefore when trying to drop weight or control what you eat, taking it easy on the bread can be a good idea. What are you so upset about? I feel I am talking common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    Here's a flourless pizza recipe. used the recipe in the link and threw some rashers cheese and basil on top, think it took about half an hour in total but it was feckin' delicious. I'd use this as a treat more than anything else. You could power a city with the calories in it!

    Ingredients:
    Crust:
    2 Cups Almond Meal/Flour
    2 Eggs
    2 Tsp Extra Virgin Olive Oil
    1 Tsp salt

    Sauce:
    1 Can Tomato Paste
    1-2 Cups Water (To desired thickness)
    1 Tsp Dried Oregano
    1 Tsp Garlic

    Toppings:
    Whatever you want!
    We used fresh shredded swiss and mozzarella, chicken, bacon and onion!

    Instructions:
    Crust:
    1. Pre-heat oven to 350 degrees f (this part needs to be translated from american)
    2. Mix all ingredients in a large mixing bowl. This should give you a ball of “dough”. If your dough is too “mushy” (like mine was), continue to add almond flour until you get a good consistency.
    3. Make a pizza sheet or baking tray non-stick. This is VERY important if you want your pizza slices to come off in one piece.
    4. Press your dough on the sheet nice and even about 1/4 inch in the middle and 1/2 inch at the edges.
    5. Put crust in the oven for 15 minutes. It should look slightly golden brown when you take it out.

    Sauce:
    1. In a saucepan, combine all ingredients. Use water to desired thickness. We like ours pretty thick. Feel free to add more spice if you want it, too.
    2. Simmer on stove for approximately 15 minutes.

    Toppings:
    You will want to pre-cook any meat going on your pizza. Veggies can go on fresh and raw, or cooked depending on your preference. Your favorite cheese will do, but I recommend the 50/50 mix of mozzarella and swiss that we used. It melted perfectly and tasted great!

    Put it all together:
    1. After crust comes out of the oven, spread sauce evenly over crust.
    2. Add your cheese and toppings evenly on top of sauce.
    3. Put back in the oven and bake at 350 degrees for approximately 15 more minutes. Cheese should be evenly melted.
    4. Slice and enjoy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭cozmik


    What are you so upset about?

    It pisses me off when people blame the food for being overweight. Blame your right or left hand for the inability to put down the fork, spoon, knife, glass, or whatever conveyance is used during your gluttony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭wasabi


    cozmik wrote: »
    It pisses me off when people blame the food for being overweight. Blame your right or left hand for the inability to put down the fork, spoon, knife, glass, or whatever conveyance is used during your gluttony.

    Simplistic, much?

    For low carb lunches if I'm not in the mood for salads I'd often go with some sort of stew or curry (any of these can be low carb if you don't include spuds etc), make a load for dinner and box some up for lunch next day and some for freezer etc.

    Ideas:
    Green thai curry:
    http://www.forkncork.com/content/showthread.php?threadid=531

    Peperonata:
    http://robbwolf.com/?p=22

    Loads of stuff:
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/category/recipes/


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    Actually, does anyone have a favourite low-carb recipe book, or can recommend one?

    It would be handy to just have one good book to reference when you're out of ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭wasabi


    Most of the stuff in Berardi's Gourmet Nutrition book is lowish in carbs.

    There's also a lot of stuff in that Cook with Jamie Oliver book (it is meat-tastic), aside obviously from the risotto section... for training days only :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    taconnol wrote: »
    Actually, does anyone have a favourite low-carb recipe book, or can recommend one?

    It would be handy to just have one good book to reference when you're out of ideas.

    The Long term low carb lifestyle by Carolyn Humphries www.amazon.co.uk/Carb-Long-Term-Lifestyle-Mediterannean/dp/0572029667/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1225833848&sr=8-1. This is a great book, tasty recipes, mostly scaled for one person, and using real ingredients, the sort of thing you have in the kitchen or can buy in your local supermarket. All those American recipes that call for "fat-free oil" and "carb-free sugar" really piss me off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    cozmik wrote: »
    It pisses me off when people blame the food for being overweight. Blame your right or left hand for the inability to put down the fork, spoon, knife, glass, or whatever conveyance is used during your gluttony.

    Well, I guess you're annoyed with somebody else then, because I've never said the existence of food is the cause of anyone being overweight.

    Thank goodness food has you to stand up for it!


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