Define Character

evil_seed

We have heard it all before. Managers & players alike speaking in interviews after game going on about how "we showed great character", "the lads showed good character" etc etc.

What I would like to know is what peoples thoughts are on the "ability". I mean it is pretty undefineable to me. IT seems to be the ability to play the full 90 mins and not give up. But surely this is what a players job is and what they are paid to do.

So... what is character? Discuss...

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If you go 2-0 down early on, your head doesn't drop.

It takes a certain amount of "character" to go on and maybe snatch a draw in the last minute, or even better, win 3-2 in the seventh minute of injury, having had two men sent off.

Xavi6

Overcoming all sorts of adversities and controversies to step up and bang in a peno to guide your team to their first win in 2 months and following it up with a passionate kiss of the club badge.

oobydooby

Xavi6 wrote: »

Overcoming all sorts of adversities and controversies to step up and bang in a peno to guide your team to their first win in 2 months and following it up with a passionate kiss of the club badge.

Lol. That pretty much explains why it's an undefinable quality.

Guy:Incognito

Getting a yellow card in the CL semi final that rules you out of the final but pushing your team on regardless to win the game.

Charlie

I think it means that you're showing your depth (i.e your not just another passenger), that no matter what others are doing around you, or the circumstances you find yourself in, you have that depth to keep persevering, where others would probably duck out, or take the soft option.

monkey9

That Jimmy Bullard is some character!

Frisbee

Roy Keane tbh

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Stekelly wrote: »

Getting a yellow card in the CL semi final that rules you out of the final but pushing your team on regardless to win the game.

Frisbee wrote: »

Roy Keane tbh

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SectionF

Roy Keane is some character

Frisbee

Des wrote: »

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I know, I know.
But I wanted to spell it out.

(Also Des, I feel:
"Thankyou Captain Obvious!"
would have been better than "...")

Xavi6

Stekelly wrote: »

Getting a yellow card in the CL semi final that rules you out of the final but pushing your team on regardless to win the game.

Frisbee wrote: »

Roy Keane tbh

BUT HE WALKED OU........ never mind :pac:

BaZmO*

It's what most of the Spurs team showed that they haven't got when they were in the sh1ts but miraculously found once a new manager came in and they were worried about their jobs.

Daysha

Stekelly wrote: »

Getting a yellow card in the CL semi final that rules you out of the final but pushing your team on regardless to win the game.

Yeah, Keano's performance against Juventus in 1999 was truly immense :pac:

DeadSkin

Xavi6 wrote: »

BUT HE WALKED OU........ never mind :pac:

..........showed character & balls :pac: :pac:

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deise59 wrote: »

Yeah, Keano's performance against Juventus in 1999 was truly immense :pac:

Is that not who Stekelly was talking about?

m@cc@

evil_seed wrote: »

We have heard it all before. Managers & players alike speaking in interviews after game going on about how "we showed great character", "the lads showed good character" etc etc.

What I would like to know is what peoples thoughts are on the "ability". I mean it is pretty undefineable to me. IT seems to be the ability to play the full 90 mins and not give up. But surely this is what a players job is and what they are paid to do.

So... what is character? Discuss...

Resilience

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Guile and moral courage.

Guy:Incognito

Des wrote: »

Is that not who Stekelly was talking about?

I thought I was too but now I'm starting to have doubts.

dfx-

Stekelly wrote: »

Getting a yellow card in the CL semi final that rules you out of the final but pushing your team on regardless to win the game.

Did Ballack score the winner against South Korea before or after his booking that banned him frmo the final?

BaZmO*

Des wrote: »

Guile and moral courage.

Ha, never mind "Character" there's a couple of expressions I'd liked defined!

According to the dictionary "guile" means "1.Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit"
Would that not mean winning a penalty while there was little or no contact would be seen as having guile? Strange when the person that seems to use the phrase the most hates players like Ronaldo.

Mr. Presentable

Character - self-belief, personal and for the group

m@cc@

BaZmO* wrote: »

Ha, never mind "Character" there's a couple of expressions I'd liked defined!

According to the dictionary "guile" means "1.Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit"
Would that not mean winning a penalty while there was little or no contact would be seen as having guile? Strange when the person that seems to use the phrase the most hates players like Ronaldo.

'Guile' means a 'character' in Street Fighter.

token56

Came in to say Roy Keane, also Steve G in the champions league final.

estebancambias

The Drogheda team in the 2-2 draw vs Dynamo Kyiv.

astrofool

token56 wrote: »

Came in to say Roy Keane, also Steve G in the champions league final.

.. the character to dive when your team really needs a penalty (can, worms, baboom).

Ballack in WC 2002 did the same as Roy Keane, getting Germany to the final, despite having 2 yellow cards.

Charlie

token56 wrote: »

Came in to say Roy Keane, also Steve G Didi Hamann in the champions league final.

Fixed that one for ya.

Jazzy

m@cc@ wrote: »

'Guile' means a 'character' in Street Fighter.

he sure is :pac:

i think ronaldo has a lot of character. he may be an ar$ehole but hes got determination and drive almost no matter what.

compare that to rooney who a lot of ppl say is the chief character of man utd... he was taken off against everton cos fergie feared he'd get sent off and has shown himself to be a petulant kid when the circumstances dont suit him. hes a really really strong character when things are going well around him but gets irked too easily. in 5 years he probably wont be like this.

gerrard is another oddity. great when we need him but can have his head in the clouds when we dont.
and yes, i agree - he did dive in the final. but who cares? we got a big giant "champions of europe" cup for it. utd had to rely on john terry being an idiot...... oh wait....

pickarooney

For me it's the attitude players show when they're being targeted by fans and opposition players, that which makes them rise above it and resist the temptation to go into hiding or retaliate against petty fouls.

token56

charlie mchugh wrote: »

Fixed that one for ya.

Fair enough, point taken.

gustavo

Jazzy wrote: »

he sure is :pac:

i think ronaldo has a lot of character. he may be an ar$ehole but hes got determination and drive almost no matter what.

Been written off so many times , who's to say he won't come back again and amaze us all again , Wouldn't say he was an arsehole though

Bubs101

Rolling with the punches, coming back from the dead, doing whatever possible to help your team even when you're not made welcome there and making up fro past mistakes. Beckham defines character for me. He made a fool of himself in 98 but came back to become a hero. Was scapegoated by the club he loved and got a boot kicked at him from a manager. Was told by another manager that he wasn't playing again only to fight his way into the team and inspire them to the league. Stepped down as captain of the international team only to fight his way back into it. Put's up with a fool of a wife who named his first child after a bridge etc.

Daysha

Des wrote: »

Is that not who Stekelly was talking about?

Eh....yeah? Hence my agreement with him

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Spurs showed character tonight.