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Pronouncing "halloween"

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  • 30-10-2008 12:57pm
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    mambo
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    Maybe it's just me, but I'm hearing a lot of "HOLLoween" on the radio rather than "HALLoween".

    Is this new? Is this a trend? Is this part of the creep of "DART-speak"?


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    Corcaigh84
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    Maybe it's just me, but I'm hearing a lot of "HOLLoween" on the radio rather than "HALLoween".

    Agreed. There's also the case of the 2FM sports guy who can't pronounce his th's. Drives me nuts.


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    FlutterinBantam
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    I e-mailed Joe @rte.ie to beg that gimp Duffy to stop the Holloween pronunciation.

    Jaysus!!


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    monkeyfudge
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    I'd say a lot of it is down to the fact that it isn't written as Hallowe’en too much any more.

    I think 'Hallowe’en' emphasises the the fact that the word is an abbreviation of the words 'Hallows' and 'Evening'

    When it's written as Halloween I think people tend to pull the word 'Hall' out of it.


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    Sam Kade
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    A lot of Americans call it holloween. I know of a lot of Irish that call it holloween including myself. It must be because of the two l's hall o ween rather than hal o ween.


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    FlutterinBantam
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    What the fugg is so difficult about pronouncing "Halloween"

    jaysus:rolleyes:


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    The Raven.
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    mambo wrote: »
    Maybe it's just me, but I'm hearing a lot of "HOLLoween" on the radio rather than "HALLoween".

    Is this new? Is this a trend? Is this part of the creep of "DART-speak"?

    I think you may have hit the nail on the head. It’s called ‘Dortspeak’.

    http://www.hiberno-english.com/body.php?id=3148

    It’s also quite common in America: Shopping ‘Moll’ instead of ‘Mall’.


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    monkeyfudge
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    The Raven. wrote: »

    It’s also quite common in America: Shopping ‘Moll’ instead of ‘Mall’.

    That's the correct way to say it... you don't say Hal when you mean Hall... why would you say Mal instead of Mall?

    But the case here is that with Halloween the word is Hallow not Hall.


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    Sam Kade
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    The Raven. wrote: »
    I think you may have hit the nail on the head. It’s called ‘Dortspeak’.

    http://www.hiberno-english.com/body.php?id=3148

    It’s also quite common in America: Shopping ‘Moll’ instead of ‘Mall’.
    So would you call a ball a bal and you would say cal instead of call.


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    faceman
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    firsttime I'm ever had anyone take issue with the pronunciation of hallowe'en! I'm more interested in the lack of apostrophe though and what it was all about. I usually spell it with the e'e


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    Sam Kade
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    What about the young women that call Cork Co-irk they make two words out of it. That's what I would call murdering the english language.


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    faceman
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    Sam Kade wrote: »
    What about the young women that call Cork Co-irk they make two words out of it. That's what I would call murdering the english language.

    Yeah but its cork so nobody cares.


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    Corcaigh84
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    faceman wrote: »
    Yeah but its cork so nobody cares.

    I see what you did there.


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