Champs league match:Liverpool v Atletico 2[All pre/during/post match discussion here]

Sherifu

I almost feel sorry for the trolls hereabouts. Cheated out of a baiting session by the ref

Nandos hair looks good.

Trizo

what total BS only at anfield ........

tibor

Wasn't a peno, but don't think it was a dive either.
Just 2 players going for the ball and colliding. No malicious intent on the defenders part but no play-acting from Gerrard either - there was no way he could've stayed up there.

ntlbell

Stekelly wrote: »

Yep, lucky to not get one great shout for a peno but then get a soft one.

and athletico desrved two and got zip..

usuall nonsense here

whatawaster

Irishpimpdude wrote: »

Check the stats mate pool have been alot better... thank god for that peno

Liverpool have been awful, and no statistic will make me think otherwise. Passing was terrible.

Mitch Connor

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

That has got to be the worst decision and dive in footballing history. Gerard should feel totally and utterly embarrassed by that

why? Gerrard doesn't dive, they don't do that type of thing at liverpool, if he even saw one of his team-mates trying to con the ref he'd have a word with them. 'Stevie G' is a model pro and would never, ever try to cheat.

Irishpimpdude

liverpool were lucky in the end but they played better in fairness

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2008-2009/liverpool-atl-madrid-253822.html

Click team stats

Chardee MacDennis

Jaysus, Dunphy says it was a peno...

CHD

Stekelly wrote: »

Yep, lucky to not get one great shout for a peno but then get a soft one.

It works both ways, suits them down to the ground.

ctrl-alt-delete

Tauren wrote: »

If that was Ronaldo - we'd never, EVER hear the end of it.

Could not agree more,

A combination of cheating and a brutal referee,

Blatant dive, Gerrard had a poor game, wasted chances with his continued attempt to do it all himself with long shots.

Mitch Connor

tibor wrote: »

Wasn't a peno, but don't think it was a dive either.
Just 2 players going for the ball and colliding. No malicious intent on the defenders part but no play-acting from Gerrard either - there was no way he could've stayed up there.

Couldn't have stayed up, no, but he didn't have to fling himself the way he did, throwing his arms up and appealing to the ref.

mike65

We were pants where it really mattered, why the hell Rafa thinks Keane can lead the line is beyond me.

Mike

Chong

Oh well , Typical Pool, looks like Lady Luck was back tonight.

A Dub in Glasgo

tibor wrote: »

there was no way he could've stayed up there.

You are right about that as he was 2 feet in the air going for the ball/man!!!

whatawaster

Irishpimpdude wrote: »

liverpool were lucky in the end but they played better in fairness

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2008-2009/liverpool-atl-madrid-253822.html

Click team stats

what exactly did liverpool score in the play-well stat?

juvenal

tibor wrote: »

Wasn't a peno, but don't think it was a dive either.
Just 2 players going for the ball and colliding. No malicious intent on the defenders part but no play-acting from Gerrard either - there was no way he could've stayed up there.

As for no play-acting from Gerrard - look at his arms flailing and his actions when he landed on the ground, ffs. I shouldn't be surprised that there's no objectivity in the soccer forum :rolleyes:

jacool

well Steven Gerrard has been shown to be a cast-iron cheat. Nothing else needs be said and the replay proves it. What a sap. I hope he feels proud and a sportsman.

Guy:Incognito

ntlbell wrote: »

and athletico desrved two and got zip..

usuall nonsense here

Do you know how handball works? Just because a ball makes contact with your hand doesnt make it handball. The Mascherano one was fired at him as he's diving, He had no part in it hitting his hand. Carraghers one deflected up off his leg as he blocked a cross, neither was a peno.

Mitch Connor

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

You are right about that as he was 2 feet in the air going for the ball/man!!!

what?

Daemonic

We need Torres back and soon...poor performance, good result.

Soby

What was the story with that last yellow card:S

Irishpimpdude

whatawaster wrote: »

Liverpool have been awful, and no statistic will make me think otherwise. Passing was terrible.

57 bad passes compaired with atleticos 49, we didnt play the best but in the end they were trying harder then atletico

~Rebel~

Everyones complaints Against Gerrard

christ, lets just skip all the bitching and whining thats about to come, and all just come to the natural conclusion which is that they're all fuking at it, its pathetic and we wish it wasn't there but we all have someone on our team that does it.


Having said that, he didn't dive, he jumped into the man and rolled around as though shot. Its not better then a dive really, but its different. IMO the ref just gave it because he missed the earlier one, and not because he actually thought it was a pen.

Chardee MacDennis

Tauren wrote: »

why? Gerrard doesn't dive, they don't do that type of thing at liverpool, if he even saw one of his team-mates trying to con the ref he'd have a word with them. 'Stevie G' is a model pro and would never, ever try to cheat.

at least you realise Gerrard is not a diver unlike Ronaldo, Rooney and Nani who are blatant divers...

ctrl-alt-delete

Stekelly wrote: »

Do you know how handball works? Just because a ball makes contact with your hand doesnt make it handball. The Mascherano one was fired at him as he's diving, He had no part in it hitting his hand. Carraghers one deflected up off his leg as he blocked a cross, neither was a peno.

Agree none of them were peno's. but neither was the Gerrard one.

ntlbell

Stekelly wrote: »

Do you know how handball works? Just because a ball makes contact with your hand doesnt make it handball. The Mascherano one was fired at him as he's diving, He had no part in it hitting his hand. Carraghers one deflected up off his leg as he blocked a cross, neither was a peno.

do you know how to look at something objectivley?
hand to ball both counts.

watch it without the rose tints

Mitch Connor

BastardPrince wrote: »

at least you realise Gerrard is not a diver unlike Ronaldo, Rooney and Nani who are blatant divers...

yep - the greasy foreigners and nasty thugs.

juvenal

jacool wrote: »

well Steven Gerrard has been shown to be a cast-iron cheat. Nothing else needs be said and the replay proves it. What a sap. I hope he feels proud and a sportsman.

It's not just Gerrard, it's not just Ronaldo, it's not just Deco, it's not just Keane etc. . . Diving and gamesmanship is rampant in soccer. There's no penalty for players cheating, they've no-one to fear and video analysis is missing.

Dissent, diving, acting the muppet, and an collective umbrella of organisations that are more interested in self-service than actually promoting the spirit of the sport. There is no player out there who is not taking part in gamesmanship, cheating or playing fully within the spirit of the game.

Mitch Connor

ntlbell wrote: »

do you know how to look at something objectivley?
hand to ball both counts.

watch it without the rose tints

ball to hand both counts? That would indicate NOT a penalty.

Chardee MacDennis

Tauren wrote: »

yep - the greasy foreigners and nasty thugs.

talking sense for once i see Tauren...

Irishpimpdude

He just said he wasnt sure if it was a penalty so feck you all

Chong

Oh its about to fupping kick off in here tonight!

ntlbell

Tauren wrote: »

ball to hand both counts? That would indicate NOT a penalty.

hand to ball would..

Peyton Manning

He knows he dived in his interview.

Melion

Can't wait for this thread to kick off like the Spurs one the other day

Jazzy

it wasnt a dive.

it wasnt a penalty either.


refereee was just an idiot. simple as that. wat happend after summed that up

titan18

Tauren wrote: »

yep - the greasy foreigners and nasty thugs.

So,Liverpool's Spaniards and Gerrard

Guy:Incognito

ntlbell wrote: »

do you know how to look at something objectivley?
hand to ball both counts.

watch it without the rose tints

How in christs name was either hand to ball? One deflected up of a foot INTO the hand (ball to hand), the other was a driven cross into a sliding player that can go nowhere to get out of the way (again, ball to hand)

Are you taking the piss?

Mitch Connor

titan18 wrote: »

So,Liverpool's Spaniards and Gerrard

No - they are learning english heart from lovable scousers.

mike65

Lads do not respond to ntlbell.

Mike

ntlbell

Stekelly wrote: »

How in christs name was either hand to ball? One deflected up of a foot INTO the hand (ball to hand), the other was a driven cross into a sliding player that can go nowhere to get out of the way (again, ball to hand)

Are you taking the piss?

watch the flipping real plays

it is clearly without any shadow of any sort of doubt hand to ball

off the stage

ROCKMAN

That was disgraceful.
Atletico were robbed , and after watching there replays I think they had 2 clear peno's turned down.

Yes LIVERPOOL deserved something from the game , but to get it like that just smells,. .

Chardee MacDennis

Stekelly wrote: »

How in christs name was either hand to ball? One deflected up of a foot INTO the hand (ball to hand), the other was a driven cross into a sliding player that can go nowhere to get out of the way (again, ball to hand)

Are you taking the piss?

seriously if anyone of those four 'penalties' were given or not given it wouldnt have surprised me either way...

btw where did all these atleti fans come from?

Irishpimpdude

Jazzy wrote: »

it wasnt a dive.

it wasnt a penalty either.


refereee was just an idiot. simple as that. wat happend after summed that up

Well said there really is some arseholes on this forum

Guy:Incognito

ntlbell wrote: »

watch the flipping real plays

it is clearly without any shadow of any sort of doubt hand to ball

off the stage

Firstly, there was 2, with replays. Which one are you saying was hand to ball? (I'm assumign you've dropped it from 2 to 1 now seeing as you are taking singular?

ntlbell

BastardPrince wrote: »

seriously if anyone of those four 'penalties' were given or not given it wouldnt have surprised me either way...

btw where did all these atleti fans come from?

do u have to be a fan to discuss a match?

Mitch Connor

Irishpimpdude wrote: »

Well said there really is some arseholes on this forum

or people just disagree... Gerrard had no need to fling himself the way he did, throw his arms back OR appeal for the penalty. He cheated to get it.

Boggles

Ref should have sent off Babel for bringing the game into disrepute. I have never seen a player come on and do so much for the opposition, truely dreadful player. He will and should not be a Liverpool player next summer.

Chardee MacDennis

ROCKMAN wrote: »

That was disgraceful.
Atletico were robbed , and after watching there replays I think they had 2 clear peno's turned down.

Yes LIVERPOOL deserved something from the game , but to get it like that just smells,. .

well then all united premier leagues trophies must stink like sh1t from all the games that they shouldnt have won but this is football, get over it.....

Mitch Connor

Boggles wrote: »

Ref should have sent off Babel for bringing the game into disrepute. I have never seen a player come on and do so much for the opposition, truely dreadful player. He will and should not be a Liverpool player next summer.

Doing better this season than Nani...