WSOP ME Final Table *****SPOILERS IN HERE******

zuutroy

Unreall...How the **** do you deal with that ****

zuutroy

KevIRL wrote: »

I'm just looking at the updates on pokernews, whats the story with Kim? He's just letting himself be ante'd out of it. He must have less than 2bbs now

Thats why he's the pro

tm2204

Jesus, poker really is a sick sick game.

What a sickener for Marquis on the biggest stage of them all. A heart breaker....

chips1234

zuutroy wrote: »

Unreall...How the **** do you deal with that ****

i actually think id cry lol

what the fck is kim doin ????

cuterob

i dont like marquis push and i hate montgomerys call

tm2204

chips1234 wrote: »

i actually think id cry lol

what the fck is kim doin ????

He's obv decided to wait for a few all-in confrontations like what just happened in the hope of moving up a couple of spots. Never mind he was guaranteed almost $1M and that this is his only ever shot (judging by his play it def will be) at this thing. Crazy strategy....

glenjamin

Pokers a sick game alright. Remember when it was 10 handed and Marquis doubled through Hammerick when his AQ made a runner runner flush against Hammerick's QQ. What goes around comes around I guess.

tm2204

Kim gone. All-in with 44 ; called in 3 spots & Demidov hit a 9 to knock him out......

glenjamin

Must be deliighted to not have been the 1st to bust.

tm2204

Next out gets almost $1.8M.... Chino's the short stack on 6.2M but he still has +15BB so he's not in too bad shape...

zuroph

kim made an extra 387k for himself at least. but yeah, shocking.

Ollieboy

cuterob wrote: »

i dont like marquis push and i hate montgomerys call

totally agree, really bad play to open push with 77. Shortstack was all-in very soon and it was worth a extra 400k...

zuutroy

Bed time for me...Hope I can avoid the rest until Wednesday...

tm2204

Ollieboy wrote: »

totally agree, really bad play to open push with 77. Shortstack was all-in very soon and it was worth a extra 400k...

+1 but people do strange things in high pressure situations and I guess Kim was hoping for this. Why else would he leave himself in a spot where even if he doubled/tripled up he was still in bad shape.

mdwexford

Kim threw away a chance of a lifetime for a slim chance of picking up an extra 387k, he deserves a beating imo.

If Marquis is playing to win then shoving 12bb's with 77 cant be called really bad play.

tm2204

Given an even run (not probable!) it's Demidov or Eastgate for me.. More than likely Demidov.

tm2204

mdwexford wrote: »

Kim threw away a chance of a lifetime for a slim chance of picking up an extra 387k, he deserves a beating imo.

If Marquis is playing to win then shoving 12bb's with 77 cant be called really bad play.

Totally agree. Also how much was each of these guys on in sponsorship etc? A lot i'd say...

Only bad cause Kim had < 3BB and was all-in soon. Marquis could have waited till Kim was out and then 'had a go'. Sick sick way to bust out though.

zuroph

chino not in good shape now at all

Ollieboy

mdwexford wrote: »

Kim threw away a chance of a lifetime for a slim chance of picking up an extra 387k, he deserves a beating imo.

If Marquis is playing to win then shoving 12bb's with 77 cant be called really bad play.

If this was his game plan before that start, than fair enough, maybe 400k is lot of money to him. If he ran badly and was waiting for a hand and by the sounds of it, there was very little chance of opening a pot first, than he did ok.

As for open pushing with 77, its a horrible play. You can only get called by a better hand. He would have been delight to see AQ as that would be the bottom of the range if even in the range to be honest. Playing to win is fair enough, but raise 3/4 bb's and fold or race etc. But I agree, under that pressure you can do weird things.

opr

lol wtf was going on in that hand !

Opr

mdwexford

You think he should have raised to 4bb's with 77 and folded to a shove with 8bb's behind..???!!!

He increases his stack by over 20% if he gets it through, its not about getting called by worse there, picking up the blinds and antes is a very good result for him.

Different people will advocate shoving or folding the 77 in that spot, a case can be made for both imo.

tm2204

zuroph wrote: »

chino not in good shape now at all

Just doubled up through Demidov so looking better..........

TripleAce

Chino usual luckbox ffs

Kim played disgracefully IMO...gay

Van Dice

I doubt Kim played that badly, there weren't a whole lot of spots for him to shove tbh. And with his stack size, playing for an extra 350k is very possibly the right option.

For most people, 90% chance of winning 350k > 10% chance of winning 5 mil (numbers off top of my head obviously, but the point stands)

On the other hand, I can't wait to see what Phillips was doing in that big early pot, I really really want Demidov to have been bluffing but he won't have been, and then the commentators will call it a great laydown :mad:

FuttBucker

What happened to phillips, demidov to TID

Samoa Joe

This link is handy for reviewing the hands http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/november-nine/final-table/final-table/

Schwartz FTW

Ollieboy

mdwexford wrote: »

You think he should have raised to 4bb's with 77 and folded to a shove with 8bb's behind..???!!!

He increases his stack by over 20% if he gets it through, its not about getting called by worse there, picking up the blinds and antes is a very good result for him.

Different people will advocate shoving or folding the 77 in that spot, a case can be made for both imo.

No I would have fold 77 there. If I did play the hand and thought I could get it through I would have raise and fold to action, a raise when that short looks stronger. And if you get action, at least you have the chance of picking up 387k. This is not a 50 freezeout on stars and you have to take the money into consideration, playing with no fear is great, but in this case I would rather see the shortstack gone and than open up my range. I think the moment got to him.

Hawk Eye

Ollieboy wrote: »

As for open pushing with 77, its a horrible play. You can only get called by a better hand. He would have been delight to see AQ as that would be the bottom of the range if even in the range to be honest. Playing to win is fair enough, but raise 3/4 bb's and fold or race etc. But I agree, under that pressure you can do weird things.

Only reading through the updates now. I really dont think shoving 77 is horrible at all. There was 5 players left to act shoving has to be +EV there. I sure someone will plug in the numbers eventually but I just inherently know that it is. You cant be worried about "only getting called by a better hand" when theres a chance to add 20% to your stack. If you give someone a calling range of AQ+,99+ which represents 5% of total hands which we're only 35% dog to then shoving is the right thing to do.

BTW raise folding "3/4 bb's" would be worse than terrible cause you open yourself to being 3bet light cause the 3bettor might interpret a ton of fold equity with Kelly Kim practically allin very next hand with 1.5 big blinds.

Slash/ED

I'd have thought shoving 77 there was quite standard. Going to bed now, really disappointed there's no video footage of this. Demidov ftw

Can't wait to see that weird hand v Phillips...

zuroph

ya, no live feed is a terrible shame.

Ollieboy

Hawk Eye wrote: »

Only reading through the updates now. I really dont think shoving 77 is horrible at all. There was 5 players left to act shoving has to be +EV there. I sure someone will plug in the numbers eventually but I just inherently know that it is. You cant be worried about "only getting called by a better hand" when theres a chance to add 20% to your stack. If you give someone a calling range of AQ+,99+ which represents 5% of total hands which we're only 35% dog to then shoving is the right thing to do.

BTW raise folding "3/4 bb's" would be worse than terrible cause you open yourself to being 3bet light cause the 3bettor might interpret a ton of fold equity with Kelly Kim practically allin very next hand with 1.5 big blinds.

ok I would rather the raise than shoving. I dont want to get it in here with 77 for 380k, thats the point, if it was for 2k, of course I would open shove, but with a shortstack on the table with 2 bb's left, the money would be more important in this situation. Open shove stinks of middle pair too, as a raise looks stronger.

But the correct play is to fold here and let the shortstack bust out.

Hawk Eye

Ollieboy wrote: »

No I would have fold 77 there. If I did play the hand and thought I could get it through I would have raise and fold to action, a raise when that short looks stronger. And if you get action, at least you have the chance of picking up 387k. This is not a 50 freezeout on stars and you have to take the money into consideration, playing with no fear is great, but in this case I would rather see the shortstack gone and than open up my range. I think the moment got to him.

key word here. If the 387k was gtd then folding 77 would be fine but theres always that chance that Kelly Kim wakes up with a hand, wins and then we're the ones looking to get our money in soon with the blinds coming around to dent our 12 big blind stack.

FeetMagic

what happened marquis? 77 vs ???

Hawk Eye

FeetMagic wrote: »

what happened marquis? 77 vs ???

it was his bust out hand, if you go here its hand number 52. Better then reading the HH cause you get to see the stack sizes and a better feel for the situation.
http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/november-nine/final-table/final-table/

zuroph

huge hand for philips there

FeetMagic

Disappointed rheems gone

zuroph

so am i, it'll be interesting to see his hole cards, seemd to have to lay down to RR a good few times.

Ollieboy

reading the reports, philips sounds like the value so far...

cuterob

demidov or eastgate ftw.. i wouldnt mind if montgomery won either he's a likeable guy and i think would be a good "ambassador" for poker as they say

cardshark202

Ollieboy wrote: »

If this was his game plan before that start, than fair enough, maybe 400k is lot of money to him. If he ran badly and was waiting for a hand and by the sounds of it, there was very little chance of opening a pot first, than he did ok.

As for open pushing with 77, its a horrible play. You can only get called by a better hand. He would have been delight to see AQ as that would be the bottom of the range if even in the range to be honest. Playing to win is fair enough, but raise 3/4 bb's and fold or race etc. But I agree, under that pressure you can do weird things.

What? When did open pushing 77 with like 15bbs or whatever not become standard?

opr

cardshark202 wrote: »

What? When did open pushing 77 with like 15bbs or whatever not become standard?

Ah come on its not as simple as that with the really shortstack. Ollie is only trying to point out that with having a guy with 2bb's all in next hand we get a free shot at an extra 380k.

I don't think its a clear shove.

Opr

FeetMagic

Looking over the hand I dont think its standard in the slightest. Basically Kelly Kim is about 80% to be knocked out the next hand. Its his BB and so he'll be all in no matter what he holds. If a player has any marginal hand they'll be limp-calling Kelly's all in and probably checking it down between themselves and knocking Kim out the majority of the time.
Of course Craigs shove here means hes not going to get called unless someone has AQ+,1010+ most of the time but I think hes better off waiting until Kim is goine and moving up the pay ladder. Dont really like Scotts call here either but that beat is SICK!!

oleras

FeetMagic wrote: »

Disappointed rheems gone

FFS, in work and can just about access here.

Any info on his exit ?

Chip counts ?

FeetMagic

He shoved with AK and got dogged by AQ.

newballsplease

oleras wrote: »

FFS, in work and can just about access here.

Any info on his exit ?

Chip counts ?

heres his last hand :
Ivan Demidov has the button in Seat 7. When the action passes to him, Chino Rheem open-shoves for 3.5 million. Peter Eastgate calls from the small blind. After Dennis Phillips folds the big blind, Rheem and Eastgate open their hands.

Rheem:
Eastgate:

Rheem is in an excellent position to double up, having Eastgate dominated preflop. All that changes when the flop comes . Now Eastgate is the one who has Rheem dominated. Rheem needs a king or running cards to stay alive in this tournament. He doesn't get any help with the ; he's down to his last three outs on the river. He can't find any of them. The river is the to send Rheem out of the tournament in seventh place. He graciously offers a handshake and a hug to each of the remaining players at the table.

Rheem has nothing to be ashamed of; his efforts in the Main Event have earned him $1,772,650.

oleras

Rheem has nothing to be ashamed of; his efforts in the Main Event have earned him $1,772,650..............And cost oleras a few quid.

Thanks for the update.

opr

haha people will be saying ESPN set up this deck for good TV.

A3 vs 66 all in pre A on the flop and one of the players having folded a 6. One outer on the river FTW!

Opr

opr

From 2+2 you'll get it if your listening to the feed lol



Opr

oleras

Demidov v Eastgate.

opr

oleras wrote: »

Demidov v Eastgate.

Should be a sick heads up match looking forward to it.

Edit - Would be great to see Phil's youngest player record go ....

Opr