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Electronic Arts' DRM Outrage
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Have you talked to many mid-20's gamers with full time jobs? I know of plenty of gamers who don't bother with MP because it requires too much time investment and tends to be disappointing due to the average age (mentally) on public servers being around 12. There's just too many griefers around these days.
In my teens, and early 20's (college years) I pretty much gamed MP all the time in MoH:AA, CoD, CS 1.5, BF1942... etc but found singleplayer gaming better when I got a job as I could game on my own time.
Yes I have. I'm in quite a mature clan [that is kinda dormant atm], and I'm one of the younger senior members. The oldest in our clan still has time to game, yet because our clan is dormant he [like you] doesn't like playing on pub servers. He's equally uninterested in SP, and much prefers to be in heavily team-organised matches, whether they scrim or otherwise.
On this point, I'm the same. I don't like a server if the other people on the server are real pr!cks, and have no teamwork-ability. Then again you've got the classic "leave your brain in the hallway" games like a Pure DM in UT, which require no teamplay at all as its u against all. They're always good to blow off steam sometimes
Exactly my point. So if you don't play MP, then the game usually has no replay value so why would I pay full price for a PC game i'm going to play once then never play again.
Yea, I see where you're coming from, but when I say "replay value" i meant small replay value, meaning if it is good, then I will go back to it. Like Oblivion. I've gone through that a few times on a few diff occasions. Course then you got epics such as Half Life 1. Have only cleared once, but i think I definitely got what I paid for. The same with HL2, and even Diablo II [now THAT was HUGE! Took me i'd 3 months culminatively to finish. Hack, Slash, repeat. hehehe]thelordofcheese wrote: »This whole piracy thing has gotten way out of hand, it's simple.
Games are a product, if you don't like that product, don't buy it.
That's the only legitimate course of action.
Everything else is just lying to yourself about why it's ok for you to take what you have no right to.
There, now we can get on with discussing the various merits of new releases. I hear Left For Dead is out soon. That's pretty cool, eh?
yea, we're not discussing whether u don't like a product or not, we're discussing how developers can help stop piracy by taking all this sh!te outta their games, and leave just the game, which is what we pay for0 -
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Steam works very well as DRM schemes go. True its unfair to a customer who does not have an internet connection.
But...
With steam my games are tied to my steam account, NOT 1 particular PC/hardware config.
If I change PCs, upgrade hardware at worst I will have to download a game again.
Steam will work offline without an internet connection: recently when eircom *upgraded* our net connection and it was down for several days I could still play all my steam games, granted I had to wait for stem to cop on and detect there was no net connection, all my games still worked.
True the launch of HL2 was utter pants: valve have since learned from their mistakes and have greatly improved steam. Valve also have managed to integrate voip,instant messaging and auto updating into all games sold through steam. Not revolutionary, but they do it well.
Steam is the only DRM scheme where you actually get benefits for using it bar just getting slapped in the face.
EDIT: also the ability to easily pickup games on launch day is nice also.
What he said.
There's an easy workaround to quickly launching steam if you net connection goes down like your did. Provided the game is up-to-date, and all that, then instead of waiting like 5 minutes for it to realise there's no net, disable your LAN connection. Its simple, takes less than 5 seconds [provided u have it showing in the taskbar ALL the time], and saves that boring ol' wait.
Also, I don't just use steam to launch the games I have on steam. I use it to launch EVERY game. At the time of writing, I had 15 Non-Steam Games assigned with Steam. Quite simple really: in the Steam Client, Games > Add a Non-Steam Game to My Games list...
Or if your in the full window, go to the Games tab, and click the same button, which is located towards the bottom of the client.
Only one game I've seen doesn't work with the Steam Friends Overlay, and that's Dead Space. EVERY other game I've ever played by launching it from steam works [so that 15+ games that are pretty dam good in their own right, from RTS, to FPS/Action, MMO, Racing, and RPG]0 -
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My fault for not explaining it clearer guys
, the game actually uses SecuRom, but only while installing, and unfortunately cherryghost I would think your problem is probably linked to this! What I meant to say was the game itself once installed doesn't need any disc in the drive to play, nor need to be activated over the internet, sorry for the confusion!
Nick
Fallout does need the disk for the check. It installs everything onto the hard drive.
But still needs the securerom.
Doesn't bother me at all ,I was tidying up last night and thought I'd put the disc away.
But it was back in the machine again:)0 -
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These little bugs are extremely annoying, and imo work better at stopping piraters. O course they would get around it, but as yet, I haven't seen any fix, that unanimously works
There is one, it's called buying the game
But yes, more of this would be good, there was an old game i remember called Escape Velocity. Once you played past a certain amount of time without registering, a character named Captain Hector would appear in the universe. He had a super powerful spaceship and he would relentlessly hunt you down while saying how much of a filthy pirate you were.
Frankly, i'd love to see that for something like FarCry 2 where you're chased across the gamemap by a single mercenary.
That can't be bargained with. That can't be reasoned with. That doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And that absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.0 -
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thelordofcheese wrote: »There is one, it's called buying the game
But yes, more of this would be good, there was an old game i remember called Escape Velocity. Once you played past a certain amount of time without registering, a character named Captain Hector would appear in the universe. He had a super powerful spaceship and he would relentlessly hunt you down while saying how much of a filthy pirate you were.
Frankly, i'd love to see that for something like FarCry 2 where you're chased across the gamemap by a single mercenary.
That can't be bargained with. That can't be reasoned with. That doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And that absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Yes that's what I was getting at, but then I'd have to deal with the original topic, its a catch 22, but I'm prepared to deal with the amount of annoyance, than have to deal with a useless game after about a year [that's how long it would take to use all 5 licenses]0
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