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Radar Speed checks at night?
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eringobragh wrote: »You've pricey taste!! :pac: Do you have a V1 as well?? I thought I was the only one.:P
I salute your impeccable taste Sir !
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Hammertime wrote: »I salute your impeccable taste Sir !
Mission Imeccable I wouldn't rely to heavily on the V1 for the Laser Traps. You can be lucky however with its stellar laser scatter detection. 0 -
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Laser guns cannot be used and night and if I was targeted with one.. Cya in Court boys
1) You can't accurately see the plate at night. Reasonable doubt they could have targeted my windscreen (deflected / refraction of the laser beam), the car behind me, the road surface....
Yes you can! They aim at the Headlight as stated in the LIDAR manual. They don't need to just aim for the plate. LIDAR is more effective during the night
2) Calibration? They don't show the certs for calibration? According to the suppliers of the Garda guns the calibration should be conducted "daily"
Calibration that doesn't wash over here theres something in the Road Traffic Act about a calibration not required. Besides the Guns are self calibrated.(However they do get annual calibration from time to time). If your going to use any defence I'd use the 'Slip Effect' that those guns are prone to.
The humidity of the day could be enough to get you off the ticket in many countries. We don't even tell a road user how far they were from the gun when targeted.
LIDAR guns are more advanced then you think. The Ultralyte (Gun the Garda use) has a weather mode.
And heres another one, if the gun is 5 degress or more off axis to the license plate the error is upwards of 2 miles per hour.
WRONG AGAIN! Cosine error will always go in the drivers favour!
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BTW, don't bother with detectors. Its too late when they go off. Radar is seldom used regardless except for Gatso etc.
Hmmm, Sounds as if your countermeasures aren't up to scratch, and you were caught speeding......Let me guess you've a Cobra Radar Detector
. Do your research and you'll soon find answers on how to deal with garda laser efficiently 0 -
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I believe they will not work in fog.
Correct. And the Weather mode is dufunct as you could reasonably argue on alot of grounds.
Counter measures? Your talking to the right person...We don't even tell a road user how far they were from the gun when targeted.
That arguement still stands. There was a test case in Mullingar I believe.According to the suppliers of the Garda guns the calibration should be conducted "daily"
You CANNNOT argue with a device manufacteur. Unless Templemoore are teaching Advanced Level Physics now
They aim at the Headlight as stated in the LIDAR manual.
As above, you can't argue that one. A windscreen / headlight could diffract a reading causing an error. (Google it)Sounds as if your countermeasures aren't up to scratch,
May I ask what you use? Short of Jamming or "Veil"-ing, Detectors are no use. Its WIDELY acknoledged that detectors arn't effective against Laser threats0 -
Correct. And the Weather mode is dufunct as you could reasonably argue on alot of grounds.
Counter measures? Your talking to the right person...
What countermeasures? Obviously not anything half decent if the Garada was able to get a reading
As above, you can't argue that one. A windscreen / headlight could diffract a reading causing an error. (Google it)
If it was top diffract the pulses then the LTIs error trapping would kick in as it hasn't recieved back all the pulses its send out back. I think your mistaking this with the 'Slip effect' which can effect reading off the licence plate as well0 -
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As above, you can't argue that one. A windscreen / headlight could diffract a reading causing an error. (Google it)
Actually after reading the tele-traffics version of the Ultralyte Manual they don't seem to endorse the aiming at the Headlights (However its common practice and in the Original UL manual)Measuring a Moving Vehicle
To measure the velocity of a vehicle using the UltraLyte use the following procedure:
1. Aim the instrument at the license plate area of the target vehicle and squeeze the trigger.A low-pitched growl begins indicating the instrument is trying to acquire a lock in the target.
2. Keep the trigger pressed and the instrument sighted on the target until you hear a beep.A high-pitched beep means that a speed was captured; a low-pitched beep that a measurement error occurred. The speed calculated for the target displays in the LCD and in the scope.If the target was going away from you when it was measured, the speed displays as a negative
number. If the target was approaching, the speed displays as a positive number.
As long as the trigger is kept pressed your UltraLyte instrument may retry the speed measurement,depending on its configuration, up to 10 times or more. Consequently, it is very important that the aiming point on the target remains constant for the entire measurement time. If you move the instrument off the aiming point it cannot capture a speed reading and displays an error message instead.May I ask what you use? Short of Jamming or "Veil"-ing, Detectors are no use. Its WIDELY acknoledged that detectors arn't effective against Laser threats
Lets say you'd be warm on the jamming end of things Veiling does work but Its ruins the Headlights. I've done my rear lights.
Detectors are in 99% of the cases useless however my V1 has given me advance warning 0 -
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Its not that bad based on firmware updates etc undertaken this summer / fall to US models
Well considering the ONLY guns used here are the LTI Ultralyte & occasionally LTI Marksman with PTs ranging from 300 - 996 ft I'd pass. Hell the laser mask is well cheaper and did just as well!
On another note it is actually a Jammer and has no defence so I wouldn't fancy my chances. These LED jammers are very weak against the LTI guns especially without Veil for example.0 -
Not illegal to own but illegal to use.
Sounds stupid cos it is stupid
The legislation on these things was changed recently, they are now illegal to own aswell.
I was in court recently (family law dont ask
) and a guy who pulled in at a Garda checkpoint (he pulled in, he was not pulled in by the guards) to report another car for dangerous driving, the car in question had already been stopped at the checkpoint. While talking to the plod they noticed that he had a radar dectector in the car and they did him for it. It was not a speed check so they would have no knowledge of whether he was using it or not.
His solicitor made much of the good samaritan issue and said that " my client has never been in court before for a motoring offence and was trying to do his duty etc etc" at which point the judge remarked "we can now see why" (the whole court LOL'd) he got a hefty fine, cant remember the exact amount but it was over a grand. so beware!!!0 -
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I presume it was phrased to protect AGS in the course of their duties in case they got sued or whatever.What worried me most when I first saw it is that the legislation specifically states this. If it was an oversight, I can understand that, but I've no idea how someone thought it was a good idea to specifically say that, "The device does not need to be working properly to secure a conviction".
Nonsense. You are making it up as you go along!The Gardaí are obliged under EU law to notify the actual position that they will use mobile traps in.
Cya in court as in you'll be done for speeding or Cya in court because you are taking on the system?Laser guns cannot be used and night and if I was targeted with one.. Cya in Court boys
I don't know where you sourced this but its irrelevant. The law as you have been told explicitly states that the equipment is presumed to be in perfect working order. It could be falling apart and legally you don't have a leg to stand on!2) Calibration? They don't show the certs for calibration? According to the suppliers of the Garda guns the calibration should be conducted "daily""XXXSUPPLIERXXX recommends that this test be performed at regular intervals (daily). We also suggest
a test area be permanently installed in a convenient location. The test area must establish a
permanent known distance between a target and a shooting mark."
Wasn't there a guy (university professor?) who challenged the law there on this basis and lost?eringobragh wrote: »WRONG AGAIN! Cosine error will always go in the drivers favour!0 -
Wasn't there a guy (university professor?) who challenged the law there on this basis and lost?
I'm not sure,but the angle will always give a lower reading, trust me cosine error DOES go in the drivers favour every time and I've used an LTI.
Maybe your think of Dr Michael Clarke chalenged the accuracy of the Laser with a method called the "slip effect" that could get higher readings from a flick of the wrist and also the use of the LIDAR gun in areas with reflective signing i.e road works etc0 -
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