audi or a lexus

samhail · 06-11-2008 8:22pm #1

Im split between getting an Audo A4 (maybe 1.9 TDi) or a Lexus IS200. ive got about 15/16k so spend so the audi would be about 2002, and lexus about 2003.

whats the feeling ?

the last car i had has an alfa romeo 156, and ive been driving a nice big 3l land cruiser recently.

Plug · 06-11-2008 8:24pm

samhail wrote: »

Im split between getting an Audo A4 (maybe 1.9 TDi) or a Lexus IS200. ive got about 15/16k so spend so the audo would be about 2002, and lexus about 2003.

whats the feeling ?

the last car i had has an alfa romeo 156, and ive been driving a nice big 3l land cruiser recently.

Get an A4 with something different that 1.9tdi ,maybe the 2.0tdi;)

samhail · 06-11-2008 8:26pm

could go for a petrol A4

Frankie Lee · 06-11-2008 8:33pm

IS 200 are far superior cars, but have the downside of boy racers importing Toyota Altezzas which is off putting. Plus Alan Partridge drove one.

If going the Audi route, if practicality is not too much of a concern I'd recommend a 04 A3 2.0tdi 3dr, very quick cars and gorgeous to boot.
Would be available privately in that price range.

Plug · 06-11-2008 8:35pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

IS 200 are far superior cars, but have the downside of boy racers importing Toyota Altezzas which is off putting. Plus Alan Partridge drove one.

If going the Audi route, if practicality is not too much of a concern I'd recommend a 04 A3 2.0tdi 3dr, very quick cars and gorgeous to boot.
Would be available privately in that price range.

Far superior car, Boyracer?:rolleyes:

@samhail if going for a petrol try out the 1.8 turbo, theres no power from a 1.6 in a car that big.

samhail · 06-11-2008 8:36pm

Im going to find an Audi dealer to have a look at the A3, think i prefer to go with an A4/A6 though with the boot. personal preference i suppose. ill see how i like it at the weekend.

another thing i need to go with a dealer (loan i got)

Climate Expert · 06-11-2008 8:37pm

If you spend €16K on a 02 A4 TDI then you have some serious issues. You can get a 02 745i for that money.

If you want an Audi A6 then you can get decent value.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A6/1.9-tdi-/200843190565016/advert

Dealer car

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A6/1.9-TDI-/200840190271546/advert

nialler · 06-11-2008 8:39pm

There's an 02 CL500 going for that type of money around town 90k on the clock, now that's a superior car. Although you could get the 745 and tax it as a limo.

Plug · 06-11-2008 8:40pm

samhail wrote: »

Im going to find an Audi dealer to have a look at the A3, think i prefer to go with an A4/A6 though with the boot. personal preference i suppose. ill see how i like it at the weekend.

another thing i need to go with a dealer (loan i got)

Forget the A3, remember an A3 is a VW golf, Not that there a bad car or anything.

Climate Expert · 06-11-2008 8:42pm

nialler wrote: »

There's an 02 CL500 going for that type of money around town 90k on the clock, now that's a superior car. Although you could get the 745 and tax it as a limo.

Could you link me up, sounds quite cheap.

rabbitinlights · 06-11-2008 8:48pm

samhail wrote: »

ive got about 15/16k so spend so the audo would be about 2002, and lexus about 2003.

Is importing one not an option, 16k would get you a low mileage late 2005 A4 2.0tdi S-line, which is the new shape.

S.

samhail · 06-11-2008 8:52pm

rabbitinlights wrote: »

Is importing one not an option, 16k would get you a low mileage late 2005 A4 2.0tdi S-line, which is the new shape.

S.

i checked out importing today and it didnt look all that good.
2004 was selling up north of 11k £ which came up to 14k €, and needed to add about 4k of VRT onto it. hmmpf.

Sandwich · 06-11-2008 9:33pm

You mean :

wannabe BMW with corners cut OR rebadged Toyota with all the extras ?

eire2go · 06-11-2008 9:42pm

There isn't a car company out there that are upping their game like Audi right now, new A4 & A5, georgous cars

bazz26 · 06-11-2008 9:57pm

samhail wrote: »

i checked out importing today and it didnt look all that good.
2004 was selling up north of 11k £ which came up to 14k €, and needed to add about 4k of VRT onto it. hmmpf.

Cars are cheaper in the mainland UK than up North.

Some examples:
http://www.autoquake.com/cars/make-audi/model-a4

bazz26 · 06-11-2008 9:57pm

eire2go wrote: »

There isn't a car company out there that are upping their game like Audi right now, new A4 & A5, georgous cars

Hardly relevant to the OP though since he is looking at 03/04 cars.

Climate Expert · 06-11-2008 10:11pm

A newer model A6 thats just about in your price range.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A6/V6-New-M/200844190715347/advert

samhail · 07-11-2008 9:23am

looks nice.

would it be better to wait a few months ? is this 2nd hand car sales thing gonna shoot back up ?

samhail · 08-11-2008 1:14pm

anyone have an idea ?

Tony Broke · 08-11-2008 1:32pm

samhail wrote: »

looks nice.

would it be better to wait a few months ? is this 2nd hand car sales thing gonna shoot back up ?

Not an expert, but I wouldnt think Audi's or Lexus type brands would be that much cheaper.

I would be going for the IS200 myself, you could get a 06 one from the uk for €17000 including Vrt.

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=LEXUS&min_pr=75&source=0&model=ANY&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=5&mileage=&postcode=m52ty&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=5&ukcarsearch_full.y=8&start=3&distance=38&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200845322858254

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=LEXUS&min_pr=75&source=0&model=ANY&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=5&mileage=&postcode=m52ty&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=5&ukcarsearch_full.y=8&start=4&distance=194&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200845322855113

You would be crazy to buy here imo.

samhail · 08-11-2008 1:36pm

hmmmmm something to think about.
that looks like a nice car.
tax for a 2.2l is like 791/year. does it matter that its so new ?
(I havnt copped on about this new co2 emissions thing yet)

samhail · 08-11-2008 1:37pm

"CO2 EMISSION LEVEL RATES FROM 1 JULY 2008
The attached document sets out the rates of motor tax for brand new vehicles/imported vehicles registered in this country after 1 July 2008. Cars registered before 1 January 2008 will continue to pay motor tax on the basis of engine size (cc rates are shown in previous link)."

if im like registering a 2006 car in 2008, do i pay the old tax or new ?

samhail · 08-11-2008 1:40pm

http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vehicleDetails.asp?id=16574
(nice site link too)

would be paying 420 vat if its goin by the CO2

samhail · 08-11-2008 1:53pm

damn im spamming this thread

sorry (ill leave my sig off this time

)

the loan i have, im only allowed to buy directly from an irish dealer

which is a damn pity ! saving over 10k euro on that model there !

any ideas on how i could get around it ?

Voodoomelon · 08-11-2008 4:50pm

Climate Expert wrote: »

If you spend €16K on a 02 A4 TDI then you have some serious issues. You can get a 02 745i for that money.

If you want an Audi A6 then you can get decent value.

Damn straight, it blows my mind why people want to spend so much money on A4s and Golfs just to be like everyone else. Why get an A4 when you can get an A6? Much more elegant looking and far less of them on the road. How about some individuality people.
My 728i Sport was €12000 fully imported with 68k on the clock. You wouldn't even get a 2004 Golf for that.

Demand is the only reason A4s have such high prices, they aren't worth the money at all in my opinion...

samhail · 08-11-2008 4:53pm

does your 728 swallow the fuel whole ?

Voodoomelon · 08-11-2008 4:57pm

22MPG around town, 33MPG on the motorway so not really. Suprisingly economical. €115 fills the tank.

Tony Broke · 08-11-2008 6:05pm

With the money you are spending I would go 2006 Samhail, you wont have to Nct a 06 import for over a year.Even though a straight 04 BMW, Lexus etc should pass the test no problem, its still a bit of a risk to go importing a 04/05, even if you can get a super 728.

The 2.0 163bhp BMW 320d has very low emissions, just 153g.

This one for example is yours for just about 17k including Vrt.

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ni/cars_popup.jsp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=3&hassearched=Y&make=BMW&min_pr=75&source=0&model=ANY&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=1&mileage=&postcode=m52ty&variant=&bodyid=2&trim=&fuelid=2&colour=&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=27&ukcarsearch_full.y=13&start=7&distance=152&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200845322820472

Hell of a car for that price.Average of 50mpg, 0-60 in a in less than 9secs.

samhail · 08-11-2008 6:29pm

my understanding of my bank loan is that the bank will write a cheque right to the dealer... so it would have to be in ireland. will call them on monday.

Anan1 · 08-11-2008 6:37pm

samhail wrote: »

damn im spamming this thread sorry (ill leave my sig off this time )

the loan i have, im only allowed to buy directly from an irish dealer
which is a damn pity ! saving over 10k euro on that model there !

any ideas on how i could get around it ?

Get a personal loan, as opposed to a car loan.

rabbitinlights · 08-11-2008 7:09pm

samhail wrote: »

i checked out importing today and it didnt look all that good.
2004 was selling up north of 11k £ which came up to 14k €, and needed to add about 4k of VRT onto it. hmmpf.

I have just cleared an Oct 2005 2.0 TDI Audi A4 S-line with every extra available for just over 16K, I would hate to think what it would cost to get that car here in Ireland. 23K-26K?

S.

audi or a lexus

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