Legalising prostitution

Supermanscat

With the recession and all that in full swing and lack of money in the government coffers, is it now time to legalise prostitution and tax the industry??

Zillah

Yes. It's gross but I don't like telling people what to do if they're not stealing from each other or stabbing each other in the face.

Karoma

Only if we can smoke cannabis in brothels.

Zillah: ...eh... Neverrrmiiind.

Supermanscat

I can organise that too Karoma, just give me your vote:D

Dudess

The only argument against legalisation that had me thinking for a while was "it normalises the commoditisation of women" but then I realised women - people - are commoditised in so many ways anyway... and this statement was by a fairly militant feminist. The safety of prostitutes is, to me, a tad more important than some feminist principle.

FruitLover

To the best of my knowledge, prostitution is not technically illegal in Ireland. Soliciting is, and asking for money for sex is, but being paid for sex is (AFAIK) not.

Any legal eagles who can clarify?

TestTransmission

Supermanscat wrote: »

With the recession and all that in full swing and lack of money in the government coffers, is it now time to legalise prostitution and tax the industry??

Looking to pop the cherry,eh?

WindSock

I don't think I've ever met anyone who thinks it should be illegal....

Guy:Incognito

Dudess wrote: »

The only argument against legalisation that had me thinking for a while was "it normalises the commoditisation of women" .

It's not just women that can be prostitutes.


Theres really no good reason for prostitution to be banned, even moreso because it's such as big industry anyway as it is.

One thing that always struck me as a bit hypocritical is contries with a legal porn industry that dont allow prostituion.

AckwelFoley

Im undecided.

Dudess

FruitLover wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, prostitution is not technically illegal in Ireland. Soliciting is, and asking for money for sex is, but being paid for sex is (AFAIK) not.

Any legal eagles who can clarify?

I'm not a legal eagle but I believe you're right.

Stekelly wrote: »

It's not just women that can be prostitutes.

Yeah, that's the realisation I came to after thinking about that woman's argument, which initially made my ears prick up because it was phrased very well etc... then I realised it wasn't a very valid one.

Guy:Incognito

snyper wrote: »

Im undecided.

Rape will never be legalised so prostitution is the closest you'll get

WindSock

Stekelly wrote: »

Rape will never be legalised so prostitution is the closest you'll get

It's only rape if the cheque bounces :pac:

AckwelFoley

Nvr paid for it. Always leave a small gift

MagicMarker

So many morally challenging threads in one day. I think i'm getting palpitations!

Gummy Panda

MagicMarker wrote: »

So many morally challenging threads in one day. I think i'm getting palpitations!

we need one about bowel movements or immigrants to balance it out

MagicMarker

Gummy Panda wrote: »

we need one about bowel movements or immigrants to balance it out

Or those pesky foridners takin all our jobs!!!

Should we illegalise foridners?

Capt'n Midnight

Dudess wrote: »

The only argument against legalisation that had me thinking for a while was "it normalises the commoditisation of women" but then I realised women - people - are commoditised in so many ways anyway... and this statement was by a fairly militant feminist. The safety of prostitutes is, to me, a tad more important than some feminist principle.

+1

We don't know the real numbers of people trafficed here
or the numbers of people that disappeared
and we all know that the people in control are not the sort you'd invite around for tea

masage parlours / lapdancing clubs / escorts - these are well dodgy anyway

what we need to do is remove the pimps and other parasites , if someone wants / feels they have no option but to sell their body that's one thing, but exploiting another person doing it is another

maybe something like red light districts where the girls rent rooms and the building owner gets no cut apart from rent. regular health testing and all the stuff that works in places like Holland, Germany and New Zealand


Prostitution is going to happen, best to make sure there is no exploitation , trafficking or people having to do many more tricks than they need to because they only get a tiny cut

Kold

At least it's a fee up front, not like all the hidden costs of regular women.

humbert

Kold wrote: »

At least it's a fee up front, not like all the hidden costs of regular women.

Indeed, worse that the ryanair website!

towel401

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

+1
Prostitution is going to happen, best to make sure there is no exploitation , trafficking or people having to do many more tricks than they need to because they only get a tiny cut

nothing will stop either of those two things from happening. the only reason for banning it is so we can all fool ourselves into thinking we live in a civilised society while the whoring goes on in the background away from view.

AARRRGH

FruitLover wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, prostitution is not technically illegal in Ireland. Soliciting is, and asking for money for sex is, but being paid for sex is (AFAIK) not.

Any legal eagles who can clarify?

Prostitution is legal in Ireland.

Soliciting prostitution on the street, managing prostution and advertising prostitution are illegal.

That means if a prostitute works for herself, from her own home, and advertises her services on a non-Irish website, it is legal for both the punter and prostitute.

If the man and woman want to have sex, it is none of our business, whether or not money changes hands.

SV

Legalise it.


There's no real valid point against it.

eVeNtInE

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Vain

I think people on AH are trying to turn Ireland into a mini Amsterdam:D

AARRRGH

Another thing to note is prostitution in Ireland is defined as sexual intercourse, i.e. not handjobs, blowjobs or tit ****.

Dave!

Yes it should be.

George Carlin said it best: "Why is it illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away?"

Probably a flawed argument, but fairly concise!

He continues: "In the military they give you a medal for spraying napalm on people! In civilian life you go to jail for giving someone an orgasm! Maybe I'm not meant to understand..."

philologos

It's a terrible idea, state sponsoring of the treatment of humans as mere sexual objects. Would very probably also be used by people to commit adultery against their spouses.

Kernel

Didn't we do this one recently?

Dave!

Jakkass wrote: »

It's a terrible idea, state sponsoring of the treatment of humans as mere sexual objects.

As opposed to state neglect of the treatment of humans as mere sexual objects.......

Do you think that prostitution will ever be completely eradicated?

Jakkass wrote: »

Would very probably also be used by people to commit adultery against their spouses.

That's up to them, it's not the state's responsibility to ensure people remain loyal to their spouse

philologos

Dave! wrote: »

As opposed to state neglect of the treatment of humans as mere sexual objects.......

Do you think that prostitution will ever be completely eradicated?

They've had huge success in Stockholm with harsher police measures on prostitution. Granted it's not eradicated the rates are far far lower than before.

Dave! wrote: »

That's up to them, it's not the state's responsibility to ensure people remain loyal to their spouse

Disagree with you totally in that respect. The State should be interested in protecting family values. I'm a bit controversial in my opinions of adultery, but I personally think if you violate a legal contract it should be punishable by imprisonment.