Man United vs Stoke Game thread.

Mitch Connor

Well, fairly awkward game for United this weekend, first of two games against Stoke in a relatively short period of time.

No real team news for United, Hargreaves obviously out but i don't think there are any other injury worries for United.

While it is a game United should win, without meaning any disrespect, I do feel a bit uneasy about it. van der Saar is shaky on crosses and commanding the area, Rio isn't on top form and the majority of our team are midgets - I can see there being many a scary moment when Delap launches one into the box.

I do reckon United will win it, and I'd guess at 2-1, Stoke scoring off a throw.

My Liverpool supporting mate is going to this for his ol lads (United fan) birthday! Hope we win 6 nil just for him!!

If Vidic and Rio can handle the threat of the throw ins then we should be ok. We need to bring the shooting boots though.

OpenYourEyes

I can see O'Shea getting a start, just because hes taller than Rafael and Neville put together. 2-1 sounds like a fairly likely score

Im_No_Superman

A must win for United and I fully expect them to do so. As long as they are fully concentrated to deal with Delaps long throw there should be no problem. Fergie should be reminding them how difficult Hull made it for us so there should be no complacency. Plus after last weeks disappointing result they should be going out all guns blazing.

The game is live on Setanta 1 at 3pm just in case anyone doesnt know.

Mitch Connor

Im_No_Superman wrote: »

A must win for United and I fully expect them to do so. As long as they are fully concentrated to deal with Delaps long throw there should be no problem. Fergie should be reminding them how difficult Hull made it for us so there should be no complacency. Plus after last weeks disappointing result they should be going out all guns blazing.

The game is live on Setanta 1 at 3pm just in case anyone doesnt know.

Should be some good streams for it so. Good stuff. This is in no way a Bump to get above that imposter thread...

Mr Alan

I can see Stoke scoring.

My head still says Utd will have too much upfront for them though.

VDS,Rio & Vidic (particularly the first two) have been poor this year. I think Delaps throw will cause serial flapper Mr Van Der Sar some serious problems.

Carturo

We'll win comfortably, no question. 3-0 I reckon. I doubt Stoke will score, even with their gimmicky (at this stage) throw-ins :pac:.

I hope Foster and Tevez start ahead of VDS and Berbatov or Rooney.

Mitch Connor

Mr Alan wrote: »

I can see Stoke scoring.

My head still says Utd will have too much upfront for them though.

VDS,Rio & Vidic (particularly the first two) have been poor this year. I think Delaps throw will cause serial flapper Mr Van Der Sar some serious problems.

yep - VDS is gonna have real problems tomorrow. Tommy K would be even worse, not sure about Foster.

I think Ronaldo is gonna have to come back and help, being one of the taller players in the team, and good in the air. No sure he actually will though. It will probably be Evra, Park and Anderson left to deal with it....

Reckon O'Shea could start, if only cause he is tall.

mike65

Stoke to score one via a Delap missile as Rio forgets there is no offside.

Final score 3-1

Mike

whatawaster

United to win 3 or 4 nil. Tevez definitely deserves a start. I would drop Berbatov, personally but i doubt many would agree.

Mitch Connor

whatawaster wrote: »

United to win 3 or 4 nil. Tevez definitely deserves a start. I would drop Berbatov, personally but i doubt many would agree.

I would keep as much height in the side as possible. And tevez deserving a start doens't seem to come in to it, he has deserved many more starts this season.

CantGetNoSleep

Should start Neville and get him to fling every throw in Utd get in Stoke's half into the box, if only to prove to Trap that Delap is a better option at RB for Ireland than anyone we have now

whatawaster

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Should start Neville and get him to fling every throw in Utd get in Stoke's half into the box, if only to prove to Trap that Delap is a better option at RB for Ireland than anyone we have now

At right back? Surely if we're gonna play him we'll stick him in midfield somewhere. We have Finnan and Kelly so we're ok at right back.

Aquos76

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Barclays Premier League
Saturday 15th November 2008
Old Trafford
KO 15.00 GMT

Setanta Sports 1

Hopefully the team will be something like this

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VDS

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Rafael--Rio-Vidic--Evra
Ronaldo-Carrick-Ando-Park
---Berbatov---Tevez---

Rooney has been out of sorts for the last 2 games, so dropping him to the subs bench might be no harm. We all know how he responded the last time he was dropped to the bench.

In my opinion, this is a must win game as are most of them from here on in, if we are to reel back in the top two at present. Potentially we could be 11 points behind Liverpool at the top of the table if they beat Bolton before our game kicks off.

I am going for a 3-1 win with Ronaldo to get his 100th goal, Tevez, and Rooney coming off the bench to also claim his 100th goal.

BlueBandit

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VDS

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Neville--Ferdinand----Vidic--Evra

Ronaldo--Anderson--Carrick--Nani

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Rooney--Berbatov

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Or something like that, doubt there will be too many surprises, reckon neville over rafael seen as raphael played mid-week. Toss up between park and Nani but reckon Nani neds a bit of a confirdence booster and might get a bit of joy against stoke. Lookin like another poxy 90 minutes of failing to break down a 10 man back 4, but winning none the less.
Neck out I'd say 2 nil, with rooney to score:D

Im_No_Superman

Rooney has been out all week with a chest infection but should be fit for tomorrow, wouldnt be surprised to see him on the bench though with Tevez getting a start.

D.S.

Neville played at CB against Rangers - doubt he'll play tomorrow. I think Fergie has said he can't play two games a week??

Anderson played also if memory serves - wouldn't be overly suprised if Fletch and Carrick started tomorrow in the centre..

Would like to see Tevez in for Rooney also. Tevez needs a run of games now..

Dave!

I would be fairly confident of Stoke getting a goal, given VDS's form and the rustiness in defence in general. United should still win though.

anonymous_joe

Anyone else hoping they don't play a 4-4-2?

roryc

i can't see Delap's throw beating Vidic and Ferdinand (if they are on form). Its hard to defend against, but I reckon these two will be the strongest against it.

United 2-0, Ronnie and Rooney scoring.


Also, what are the odds of Fletcher starting? (gf has him in her FF team )

ZENER

Important for Tevez to get some games. Madrid have been making sounds about buying him to replace RVN in January. If he's not getting his game he might just take them up on it in the Summer.

Anyway 3-1 to the Devils is my prediction for what it's worth !!

ZEN

SantryRed

Stoke to win 2-1.

VDS to be at fault.

Boggles

Very simple to defend against Delap, don't concede throws in your half.

Anyone remember him firing one in against Liverpool at Anfield?, I don't think he got one, I supposed it helped Liverpool having up around 75% possession.

roryc

Boggles wrote: »

Very simple to defend against Delap, don't concede throws in your half.

Anyone remember him firing one in against Liverpool at Anfield?, I don't think he got one, I supposed it helped Liverpool having up around 75% possession.

Yes but they were so caught up in trying to counteract Delap's throw ins that they forgot to score any goals

Headshot

Dave! wrote: »

I would be fairly confident of Stoke getting a goal, given VDS's form and the rustiness in defence in general. United should still win though.

id be worried about vds too

but Rio could be well dodgy too

vidic should clear any balls that come his way tbh

so out of our back-line id trust only vidic for todays game

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i was offered to go to the match but id couldnt be arsed

doonothing

SantryRed wrote: »

Stoke to win 2-1.

VDS to be at fault.

You just jinxed it

mayordenis

United win for me but I fancy stoke to score first

eZe^

I think United's class will show through in this game, I can see Rio and Vidic finally stepping up to the plate this season and shutting down everything that Stoke throw at them. I can see a very dominant and assured performance by United and they'll win comfortably by 2 or 3.

ROCKMAN

Think utd have enough quality in the Rio and Vidic to deal with Delap's throw-ins , And I do not see them having to deal with that many to be honest , expect Utd to dominate and for a lot of the game to be played in the stoke half . If fit , would like to see Fletcher start (along side Anderson )better equipped to deal with a very big physical side (not dirty ) like Stoke than Carrick IMO. Also ,although he is a lot smaller than Berbs for the same reason I would like to see Tevez start.

Spud83

I expect the team to be

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VDS

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O'Shea-Rio--Vidic-Evra
---Carrcik--Fletcher---
-Ronaldo

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Nani-

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Rooney--Berb----

However i would really like to see

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VDS

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O'Shea-Rio--Vidic-Evra
---Carrick--Fletcher---
-Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez

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Berb

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to be given a shot.

I honestly don't think its that a big a risk to try it out with Rooney and Tezez being work horses and it also keeps our "defense" players the same just swapping Nani/Park for Tevez who will probably do as much work off the ball as either of them

Come on Fergie give it a go.

PHB

Mr Alan wrote: »

I can see Stoke scoring.

My head still says Utd will have too much upfront for them though.

VDS,Rio & Vidic (particularly the first two) have been poor this year. I think Delaps throw will cause serial flapper Mr Van Der Sar some serious problems.

IMO it's actually been VDS and Vidic who have been poor. Rio has been compensating for them, and he's been compensating for poor RB defending with Neville or Brown (who needs games and confidence). As such, he's making mistakes because he is being drawn out of position, but nowhere near as bad as Vidic.

PHB

I think the team will be pick with height/battle as a factor, so

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VDS

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-O'Shea--Rio--Vidic--Evra-
---Carrick--Anderson----
-Ronaldo--Rooney--Nani-

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Berb

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Smegball

Tbh I think people here are worrying too much about Delaps throw in's, we should be worried about our own team here, we are the Premiership and Europeon champions.
We will win comfortably 3 or 4 I say.

ROCKMAN

TODAY TEAM

VDS

O SHEA
EVANS
VIDIC
EVRA

RONALDO
CARRICK
FLETCHER
PARK

TEVEZ
BERBS

ITT-Pat

no rio??????

Spud83

ITT-Pat wrote: »

no rio??????

no Rooney?

Mitch Connor

No Rio is a big worry. Must be injured - anyone hear anything?

Mitch Connor

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

no Rooney?

Rooney has been out of training all week with a chest infection

ROCKMAN

BENCH

FOSTER, ANDERSON, NANI, WELBECK, MANUCHO , RAFEAL , GIBSON

no RIO(no reason given yet ) or Rooney (chest infection )

Spud83

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Rooney has been out of training all week with a chest infection

Ah yes. I was too busy yesterday to follow any of the team news.

Dave!

If we go ahead early then maybe we'll finally see this "Manucho" chap in action for the last 20 or so mins!

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VDS

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O SHEA

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EVANS

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VIDIC

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EVRA

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CARRICK

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FLETCHER

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RONALDO

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PARK

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TEVEZ

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BERBS

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Good oul team

Wonder why Rio is out A kick in the arse for being so rusty as of late? Evans is pretty good in the air (and the same height as Rio anyway), so I'm not too concerned tbh. I guess this is a baptism of fire for him actually!

Looks like Fergie went for the 'tall lads' approach, as prophesied by some of ye, by shticking in Johno

Looking forward to this

Mitch Connor

Dave! wrote: »

Evans is pretty good in the air (and the same height as Rio anyway), so I'm not too concerned tbh. I guess this is a baptism of fire for him actually!

He made his prem debut for us against Chelsea, away i think. Definitely played, not sure if it was his prem debut for us though.

Dave!

Mitch Connor wrote: »

He made his prem debut for us against Chelsea, away i think. Definitely played, not sure if it was his prem debut for us though.

Ah right fair enough that was probably more challenging! But this will be quite testing too, if they get a few Delap throws.

Aquos76

Gooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllll

1-0 Ronaldo

Stunning free kick. Keeper should have done better though.

100th for Ronaldo

ROCKMAN

1-0

RONALDO freekick :eek:

Keeper f**k up .

Mitch Connor

describe? don't have a stream up yet

Harpy

wahey go on ronaldo
keeper was terrible there

doonothing

Is this on the telly? I don't have setanta.. Anyone have any stream links?

Chong

Stunning Free, but Sorenson is a tool.

The crowd now banging out VIVA Ronaldo in full voice.

Xavi6

Should've saved it but if you hit the target there's always a chance.

ntlbell

any decent streams lads?