Ireland v New Zealand; Croke Park 5.15pm (pre/during/post discussion thread)

Stev_o

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

There are so many unforced errors coming in on both sides - but Ireland are trying to push it, which doesn't help

Yup really failing to spark any sort of chance dire stuff.


New Zealand are just playing this as if it's a training match just going through the motions with ease.

rebel girl 15

Stev_o wrote: »

Yup really failing to spark any sort of chance dire stuff.


New Zealand are just playing this as if it's a training match just going through the motions with ease.

they are only going through the motions now, the first half had great intensity, but now it is all too easy for the All Blacks

cabla

Ye like comentry is saying New Zealand are unstoppable, just amazing.
In my opinion they are playing awful and still destroying us, just showing how dreadfully we are playing. We should should concentrate on stopping anymore tries than scoring at this stage. There seems to be no pace about them, or New Zealand all very slow or something.

cabla

Ye like comentry is saying New Zealand are unstoppable, just amazing.
In my opinion they are playing awful and still destroying us, just showing how dreadfully we are playing. We should should concentrate on stopping anymore tries than scoring at this stage. There seems to be no pace about them, or New Zealand all very slow or something.

andyman

Croke Park is a bloody library

the groutch

anyone else notice that the paddypower hoardings are upside-down?

rebel girl 15

we haven't had any attacking threat - defensively we aren't too bad.

George Hook admits that the AB aren't playing well, but there is cause for optimism, as there aren't any teams as good as this in the six nations

mikeruurds

All 3 Tri nations sides are looking a little jaded at the moment. I think they're knackered after the long season.

In fact, I'm just looking for any excuse to explain the Boks two dismal performances so far

Gingervitis

Time to empty the bench methinks

rebel girl 15

any half decent chance of a try is scuppered by Ireland - 5 metres away and then giving away the penalty!!!!!!!! Frustrating isn't the word

cabla

This game is soooo anoying to watch. Just so many mistakes, they need to relax and take a breath.

Magnum

the groutch wrote: »

anyone else notice that the paddypower hoardings are upside-down?

Saw that............

Des Hynes

Snigger

Hippo

Truly awful display. No continuity, no ideas. We should have shipped 50 or more.

Ghost Train

the groutch wrote: »

anyone else notice that the paddypower hoardings are upside-down?

Thought they looked a bit funny

rebel girl 15

Hippo wrote: »

Truly awful display. No continuity, no ideas. We should have shipped 50 or more.

Shows that the new defense coach has done something well. That isn't the first time that those paddy power things have been upside down, they were the same for the last game in Croker

Hippo

eolhc wrote: »

Thought they looked a bit funny

Thought it was deliberate, it was the same last season. So you'll 'notice' them better.

rebel girl 15

ali williams rte man of the match.

Gingervitis

Hippo wrote: »

Truly awful display. No continuity, no ideas. We should have shipped 50 or more.

well, i don't know about that, the defence has been heroic in the face of numerous line breaks. I think the scoreline's been accurate: no attack from us, but we never looked like shipping 50 points (maybe that's more New Zealand not at their best though)

Hippo

ABs less than totally sharp. They've had easily enough ball and territory to have really buried us.

Stev_o

Gingervitis wrote: »

well, i don't know about that, the defence has been heroic in the face of numerous line breaks. I think the scoreline's been accurate: no attack from us, but we never looked like shipping 50 points (maybe that's more New Zealand not at their best though)

Ah Nz didnt seem to care once Sivatui try was disallowed but yeah first 40 was great defensive effort but it took its toll on them.

Backline failed to impressed im nowhere near convinced that this Fitz Bod centreship will work

andyman

Stev_o wrote: »

Backline failed to impressed im nowhere near convinced that this Fitz Bod centreship will work

To be fair though, probably the entire backline weren't great today but they did show glimpses. BO'D showed glimpses of his best and Fitzgerald showed some good pace. You need to give the partnership a proper chance and not judge it on a couple of games.

rebel girl 15

Luke Fitsgerald was the only one that showed any great spark in the backline, Earls put himself about when he came on as well. Hope O Connell is alright for Argentina.

All the southern hemisphere sides won today.

jayteecork

Could someone please explain why New Zealand got a penalty try and Bowe was sent off for 10?

He knocked it back.

We see it all the time from high balls, players jumping up and tapping it back.

Horrible ruling in my opinion.

Stev_o

jayteecork wrote: »

Could someone please explain why New Zealand got a penalty try and Bowe was sent off for 10?

He knocked it back.

We see it all the time from high balls, players jumping up and tapping it back.

Horrible ruling in my opinion.

Its a professional foul to knock or slap the ball out of the way into touch or off field. So the decision is completely right.

About Fitz BOD, i for once agree with Hook that Fitz imposes more of a threat then BOD how did feck all today lets be honest and if he wasnt a captain he'd loose his place, ill say it again id much before Wallace at 12 or a fit D'Arcy at 12 with Fitz outside him because at the moment BOD isnt offering us anything impressive.

RugbyFanatic

Stev_o wrote: »

Backline failed to impressed im nowhere near convinced that this Fitz Bod centreship will work

Are you serious?!! BOD and Fitz both played very well!

Fitz managed 3 line breaks, BOD got 2 and BODs offloading today was excellent. Defensively they were superb especially Fitz.

rebel girl 15

the all blacks won't have their strongest team out - they wouldn't be able to field the team they had today.

Noopti

Oh well! I think the All Blacks turned it on in the 3rd quarter. I don't know what Kidney was doing leaving an obviously injured O'Connell on so long, stupid decision. Overall though, as was said during the commentary the All Blacks were well and above any team we will face in the forthcoming 6N and we are only starting a new season with a new coaching setup and some new players. I can see us progressing under this management and I see some hope for the 6 Nations.

For now, roll on the game next week. I will be there and it is the most important game of this series. We need to beat Argentina, and I think that we should.

Edit: Oh yeah, Quinlan.....take it a bit easier! Too many penalties.

RugbyFanatic

Stev_o wrote: »

About Fitz BOD, i for once agree with Hook that Fitz imposes more of a threat then BOD how did feck all today lets be honest and if he wasnt a captain he'd loose his place, ill say it again id much before Wallace at 12 or a fit D'Arcy at 12 with Fitz outside him because at the moment BOD isnt offering us anything impressive.

This is an absolute joke. He made two excellent breaks, turned over ball, excellent offloading in the tackles, did a lovely kick and chase and regained ball, defensively he made not one error, he did excellent decoy running allowing Fitz into space, did 2 excellent tatical kicks.

Honestly to say BOD did feck all is completely untrue.

donvito99

Quinlan should be dropped, then shot.