FM 2009 World Beaters and Wonderkids

evil-monkey

Anyone know who this year's hidden gems are yet??

Frisbee

Apparent;ly its a random thing this year.
There is one kid somewhere in the game who is a complete beast.
But he's randomly generated in every game under a different name and for a different club.
Means you have to actually use your scout network instead of using t'internet

leninbenjamin

Frisbee wrote: »

Apparent;ly its a random thing this year.
There is one kid somewhere in the game who is a complete beast.
But he's randomly generated in every game under a different name and for a different club.
Means you have to actually use your scout network instead of using t'internet

good, that's how it should be.

Vokes

But aren't there any new real wonderkids in that 16-17 age range this year? Arsenals Wilshire for example? No doubt he's marked wonderkid/promising.

evil-monkey

Frisbee wrote: »

Means you have to actually use your scout network instead of using t'internet

ah jeezzzz...those of us with a life so and can't dedicate 24/7 to it will probably have a tougher time winning silverware this time round

Mitch Connor

evil-monkey wrote: »

ah jeezzzz...those of us with a life so and can't dedicate 24/7 to it will probably have a tougher time winning silverware this time round

well, if you don't mind using the net - you may as well use the FM Genie Scout. It isn't out yet, but will be out soon. www.genie.fm

leninbenjamin

Mitch Connor wrote: »

well, if you don't mind using the net - you may as well use the FM Genie Scout. It isn't out yet, but will be out soon. www.genie.fm

heh, when I got board of FM08 I started to use something like that. It's actually pretty interesting watching the game's response when you assemble a team of world beaters. the re-ranking system tends to put the other facets of the game much more to the fore, after a few seasons it tends to almost eliminate whatever competitive advantage you've gained I've found.

evil-monkey

Mitch Connor wrote: »

well, if you don't mind using the net - you may as well use the FM Genie Scout. It isn't out yet, but will be out soon. www.genie.fm

what's this do then, just find all the best players for you?? sounds interesting...

leninbenjamin

evil-monkey wrote: »

what's this do then, just find all the best players for you?? sounds interesting...

lets you look at a players PA and CA, the hidden attributes that determine how good a player gets. some of these style of tools let you search the database for players of a certain PA etc.

camel toe

hows james mccarthy for hamilton? i'd say he has -9 potential at least

evil-monkey

leninbenjamin wrote: »

lets you look at a players PA and CA, the hidden attributes that determine how good a player gets. some of these style of tools let you search the database for players of a certain PA etc.

can you not just turn off the attribute masking when starting a game??

Kiith

evil-monkey wrote: »

can you not just turn off the attribute masking when starting a game??

Isnt attribute masking the hiding of stats until you have scouted a player?

evil-monkey

Kiith wrote: »

Isnt attribute masking the hiding of stats until you have scouted a player?

yes. so what i'm suggesting is turn that off so there's no need for genie scout...or does genie scout do more??

Vokes

Attribute masking hides some attributes of not wellknown players in-game.

The attributes that leninbenjamin is talking about are never shown ingame regardless. Things like Sportsmanship, Adaptability, Current Ability, Potential Ability, Injury Proneness, Professionalism.

A lot of these things essentially define the personality of a player.

leninbenjamin

evil-monkey wrote: »

can you not just turn off the attribute masking when starting a game??

these are different attributes. SofaK sums it up nicely. basically the attributes you see in game don't define how good a player is, they are related to the hidden attributes but they don't give the compete story. GenieScount, FMscout and FMminiScout all show the hidden attributes that allow you to see the complete picture of how the player will fit into your current squad, and how good he is likely to become.

CA is current ability, and PA is potential ability (the maximum CA a player can achieve if you train and develop him well), both a score between 0 and 200. the actual footballing, mental and physical attributes you see in game are all determined by the CA and PA. and then there's the other hidden mental attributes as SofaK mentions, that determine the personality of the player and how likely that player is of actually fulfilling his full PA.

evil-monkey

leninbenjamin wrote: »

these are different attributes. SofaK sums it up nicely. basically the attributes you see in game don't define how good a player is, they are related to the hidden attributes but they don't give the compete story. GenieScount, FMscout and FMminiScout all show the hidden attributes that allow you to see the complete picture of how the player will fit into your current squad, and how good he is likely to become.

CA is current ability, and PA is potential ability (the maximum CA a player can achieve if you train and develop him well), both a score between 0 and 200. the actual footballing, mental and physical attributes you see in game are all determined by the CA and PA. and then there's the other hidden mental attributes as SofaK mentions, that determine the personality of the player and how likely that player is of actually fulfilling his full PA.

cool cool. handy lil oul tool so it is.

Real FM

camel toe wrote: »

hows james mccarthy for hamilton? i'd say he has -9 potential at least

I signed McCarthy for QPR and so far he's been very unimpressive. I know he's only 17 and I should have loaned him out but he should be able to handle teams like doncaster in the championship. Mid season now and hes played around 15 games with and average of 6.38 and 1 goal.

On my monthly summary my board always let me know they are dissapointed with his signing.

shano_88

Started with Arsenal. In january now and top pf the table!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeee.
Signed mario balotelli off inter for 12 mil. Hes only 17 but it already lookes like a bargain considering his age and hes scored 5 goals this season and top of the assists with 7.

Also, Angelo palombo- very solid dmf with a wicked shot. Perfect sigining for Arsenal imo....

ImJohn

shano_88 wrote: »

Started with Arsenal. In january now and top pf the table!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeee.
Signed mario balotelli off inter for 12 mil. Hes only 17 but it already lookes like a bargain considering his age and hes scored 5 goals this season and top of the assists with 7.

Also, Angelo palombo- very solid dmf with a wicked shot. Perfect sigining for Arsenal imo....

Balotelli is unreal, everyone buy him

Dont Ban Me

Just downloading the patch before I start playing my game, so making a list of all the good ones to buy, so the more the merrier guys...:D

leninbenjamin

ImJohn wrote: »

Balotelli is unreal, everyone buy him

for 12mil? seriously? in the demo my scouts said he'd cost well over 20.

ImJohn

I got him for 9.5 mil I think. They kept asking for 14 mil plus but I kept offering 7-8 mil then I offerd 8 mil and other small bonuses to come to 9.5 mil. I then said non negotiable and it worked.

I love him already lol, he scored a free kick last minute against chelsea from 30 yards out!!

Dont Ban Me

I got him for 10.5, he is unreal like scary :eek: unreal!!!

danburke

I got him for 10mil..Inter kept asking for 17 but I could only offer 10 as thats all Man Utd will allow you at the start..

He's class..unsure where to play him though once Ronaldo comes back..prob up front i suppose

Dont Ban Me

I play him on the right of midfield and he scores and is getting loads of assists too. He's a bloody magician

glenjamin

Found this on the SI forums. Will answer all your questions:

Powlay wrote: »

link to shortlist

link 2

-9 Players, listed by Nation playing in.
Player name, club, position.

Argentina
Franco Zuculini – Racing Club – DM, MRC
Gabriel Perez Tariffa – Argentinos – S
Lautaro Acosta – Seville – AMRC, FC
Mauro Diaz – River – AMC
Angel Di Maria – Benfica – AMLC
Maximiliano Oliva – River – DLC
Ricardo Noir – Boca – FC
Pablo Piatti – Almeria – AMLC, FC
Jonathan Cristaldo – Velez – FC
Frederico Laurito – Udinese – S
Oscar Ustari – Getafe – GK
Cristian Ansaldi – Rubin – D/WBRL, MR
Frederico Fazio – Sevilla – SW, DC, DM
Christian Maidana – Spartak Moscow – AMLC, FC
Gabriel Rodriguez – Boca – FC
Ever Banega – Valencia – DM
Sebastian Blanco – Lanus – AMRLC
Fabian Monzon – Boca – D/WBL
Nicolas Mazzola – Independiente – S
Patricio Rodriguez – Indepentiente – AMC
Emir Faccioli – Lanus DC
Damian Escudero – Villarreal – AMLC
Lucas Trecarichi – Sevilla Atletico – AMLC
Mateo Musacchio – Castilla – DRC
Alejandro Gomez – Arsenal de Sarandi – AMC
Maximiliano Moralez – FC Moscow – AMRLC
Diego Buonanotte – River – AMLC
Cristian Chavez – Boca – AMRC

Belarus
Sergey Krivets – BATE – AMRC

Belgium
Radja Nainggolan – Piacenza – DM, AMRLC
Eden Hazard – LOSC Lille – AM/FC

Brazil
Alex Teixeira – Vasco – AMRLC, FC
Tiago Lius – Santos – S
Choco – Atletico Paranaense – AM/FC
Sergio Mota – Sao Paulo – AMLC
Bernado – Cruseiro – DM
Taison – Internacional – AM/FC
Tales – Internacional – AMC
Rafael Forster – Internacional – DLC
Guilherme – Almeria – D/WBL
Rafael Carioca – Germio – DM
Mauricio – None (Should be Villarreal iirc) - AML, S
Douglas Costa – Gremio – AMLC
Gerson – Gremio – DC
Fabio – Man Utd – D/WB/AML
Coutinho – Vasco – AMC
Oscar – Sao Paulo – AMC
Walter – Internacional – AM/FC
Felipe – Palmeiras – AMC
Filipe Monteiro – Udinese – AMRC, FC
Rafhael – Figueirense – DC
Paulo Henrique – Santos – AMC
Neymar – Santos – AM/FC
Cassio – PSV – GK
Sidnei – Benfica – DC
Willian – Shakhtar – AMC
Joao Carlos – Atletico Paranaense – GK
Erick Flores – Flamengo – AMRC

Cameroon
Eyong Enoh – Ajax – AMC
Nicolas N’Koulou – AS Monaco – DRC

Canada
Asmir Begovic – Portsmouth – GK

Chilie
Nicolas Millan – Colo Colo – AMRL, FC
Arturo Vidal – Leverkusen – DM

Colombia
Santiago Trellez – Valez – S
Marco Perez – Chico FC – S

Costa Rica
Celso Borges – Saprissa – AMC

Czech Republic
Tomas Necid – Slavia Prague – FC
Marek Suchy – Slavia Prague – DC, DM
Vaclav Kadlec – Sparta Prague – S
Lubos Kalouda – CSKA Moscow – AMR
Martin Fenin – Frankfurt – S

Equador
Antonio Valencia – Wigan – AMRC
Christian Benitez – Santos Laguna – FC

England
Nathan Delfouneso – Villa – S
John Bostock – Tottenham – A<C
Scott Sinclair – Chelsea – AMRL, S
Jack Wilshere – Arsenal – AMLC
Danny Welbeck – Man Utd – S
Adam Lallana – Southampton – AMC
Joe Mattock – Leicester – D/WBL
Mark Beevers – Sheff Wed – DC
Jose Baxter – Everton – AMRC, FC
Danny Rose – Tottenham – AML
Jake Thompson – Southampton – AMR
Jordan Spence – West Ham – DRC
Henri Lansbury – Arsenal – AMRC

Finland
Lauri Della Valle – Liverpool – AM/FC

France
Clement Grenier – Lyon – AMRC
Yacine Brahimi – Rennais – AMC
Damien Le Tallec – Rennais – AM/FC
Yannis Tafer – Lyon – S
Vincent Acapandie – Auxerre – S
Thimothee Kolodziecziak – Lens – D/WBL
David N’Gog – Liverpool – S
Dennis Appiah – AS Monaco – DC
Darnel Situ – Lens – DC
Alenandre Coeff – Lens – MC
Armand Traore – Arsenal – D/WB/ML
Jeremy Helan – Rennais – D/WBL
Geoffrey Jourdren – Montpellier – GK
Zakarie Boucher – Havre – GK
Aurelien Teaudors – Sochaux – DC
Joris Delle – Metz – GK
Ryad Boudenbouz – Sochaux – AMRL
Omar Benzerga – Lille – DM
Sofiane Feghouli – Grenoble – AMLC
Adel Taarabt – Tottenham – AMC
Gael Kakuta – Chelsea – AMLC
Younousse Sankhare – PSG – DM, MLC
Matthieu Saunier – Bordeaux – DRC

Georgia
Levan Kenia – Schalke – AMC
Giorgi Makaridze – Dinamo Tbilisi – GK

Germany
Marcel Risse – Leverkusen – AMRL
Savio – Brescia – AML
Mehmet Ekici – Bayern – DM, AMC
Deniz Naki – Leverkusen – AMC
Willi Evseev – Hannover – AMRLC, FC
Maxim Choupo-Moting – HSV – AM/FC
Benedikt Howedes – Schalke – DC
Richard Sukata-Pasu – Leverkusen – S
Mesut Ozil – Werder – AMC
Anis Ben-Hatira – HSV – AMRLC
Konstantin Rausch – Hannover – /?WB?ML
Felix Kroos – Rostock – AM/FC
Manuel Fischer – Stuttgart – S
Jerome Boateng – HSV – D/WBRL
Lars Bender – 1860 Munich – DM
Daniel Schwaab – Freiburg – DRC, WBR
Sami Khedira – Stuttgart – DM
Lewis Holtby – Aachen – AMRLC, FC
Mats Hummels – Bayern – DC, DM

Ghana
Ransford Osei – Kessben – S
Daniel Opare – Castilla – D/WBR
Tawrick Jibril – Hearts of Oak – DM
Andre Ayew – Marseille – AMRL, FC
Sadick Adams – Atletico B – S

Greece
Sotiris Ninis – Panathinaikos – AMRC
Kyriakos Papadopoulos – Olympiakos – DC

Holland
Nacer Barazite – Arsenal – AMC
Rik Schouw – Ajax – MRC
Georginio Wijnaldum – Feyenoord – AMRLC
Rodney Sneijder – Ajax – MRLC

Hungary
Krisztian Nemeth – Liverpool – S
Tamas Kadar – Newcastle – DLC

Israel
Nir Mantsur – R. Madrid C – SW. DLC

Italy
Alberto Paloschi – Parma – S
Davide Santon –Inter – D/WB/AMR
Riccardo Brosco – Roma – DC
Fausto Rossi – Juventus - AML
Fernando Forestieri – Genoa – AM/FC
Davide Petrucci – Man Utd – AM/FC
Andrea Poli – Sampdoria – DM
Silvano Raggio Garibaldi – Genoa – DM
Allesandro Tuia – Lazio – DC
Alessio Campoli – Lazio – DC
Marco Davide Faraoni – Lazio – DRC
Marco Ezio Fossati – Inter – MC

Ivory Coast
Antoine N’Gossan – ASEC – AMLC

Mexico
Victor Manon – Pachuca – AMR, S
Edgar Andrade – Cruz Azul – MRC
Cesar Villaluz – Cruz Azul – AMRC
Ulises Davila – Chivas – S
Alfonso Blanco – Pachuca – GK
Sergio Arias – Chivas – GK
Sergio Avila – Chivas – AMLC
Edgar Castillo – Santos Laguna – D/WBL, AML
Jose Rafael Alamo – Tapachula – GK
Miguel Angel Fraga – Morelia – GK
Ever Guzman – Morelia – S
Antonio Salazar - Chivas – S
Omar Esparza – Chizas – DL, DM, ML
Patricio Araujo – Chivas – SW, DC, DM
Hobbit Bermudez – Atlante – AML, S

Northern Ireland
Jonny Evans – Man Utd – DC

Nigeria
Rabiu Ibrahim – Sporting CP – AMC
Lukman Haruna – Monaco – DM
Macauley Chrisantus – HSV – S

Norway
Havard Nordtveit – Arsenal – DC, DM

Peru
Reimond Manco – PSV – AMRLC, FC

Poland
Robert Lewandowski – Lech – FC

Portugal
Daniel Carrico – Sporting – DC
Yannick Djalo – Sporting – FC
Daniel Candeias – Porto – AMR
Adrien – Sporting – MC
Helder Barbosa – Porto – AML

Romania
Bogdan Stancu – Steaua – FC
Razvan Ochirosii – Steaua – AML
Gabriel Torje – Dinamo Buc – AMR

Russia
Alan Dzagoev – CSKA Moscow – AMC
Alexandr Prudnikov – Spartak Moscow – S
Fedor Smolov – Dinamo Moscow – S

Scotland
Gary Glen – Hearts – S
John Fleck – Rangers – AMLC, FC

Slovenia
Matej Rapnik – Hearts – DLC

South Africa
Kermit Erasmus – Feyenoord – S

South Korea
Yoon Bit-Garam – Boo-Kyong High School – DM, AMC

Spain
Cala – Sevilla Atletico – DC, DM
Aaron – Valencia Mestalla – AMRC, FC
David Moreno – Almeria B – AMLC
Gerardo Bruna – Liverpool – AML
Ignacio Camacho – At. Madrid – DM
Sergio Asenjo – Valladolid – GK
David De Gea – Atletico B – GK
Daniel Parejo – Castilla – AMC
Atienza Pichu – Atletico B – DC, DM
Daniel Pacheco – Liverpool - AM/FC
Emilio Nsue – Mallorca B – S
Adrian – Deportivo – S
Sunny – Valencia – DM
Iago – Juventus – AMLC
Thiago – Barca B – MC
Ruben Ramos – Atletico B - AM/FC
David Rochela – Deportivo B – DC
Antonio Adan – Castilla – GK
Fran Merida – Arsenal – AMLC

Sweden
Albin Ekdal – Juventus – AMC

Turkey
Batuhan Karadeniz – Besiktas – S
Gokhan Tore – Leverkusen – AM/FC
Sercan Yildirim – Buraspor – S

USA
Brek Shea – FC Dallas – DL, AMLC
Josh Lambo – FC Dallas – GK
Jozy Altidore – Villarreal – S

Uruguay
Gonzalo Barreto – Danubio - FC
Diego Polenta - Genoa - DC

Wales
Gareth Bale - Tottehman - D/WB/ML
Aaron Ramsey - Arsenal - MC

-10's

Bosnia
Miralem Pjanic – Lyon – AMRC

Brazil
Pato – Milan – FC
Anderson – Man Utd – AMC

France
Mamadou Sakho – PSG – DLC
Henri Saviet – Bordeaux – AMRL, FC

Germany
Toni Kroos – Bayern – AMC

Italy
Vincenzo Fiorillo – Sampdoria – GK
Mario Balotelli – Inter – AMRL, S

Mexico
Martin Galvan – Cruz Azul – AMC
Carlos Vela – Arsenal – AMLC, FC
Gio Dos Santos – Tottenham – AMRLC, FC

Spain
Bojan – Barca - FC

By Position

Goal Keepers
-10
Vincenzo Fiorillo – Sampdoria – GK
-9
Josh Lambo – FC Dallas – GK
Antonio Adan – Castilla – GK
Sergio Asenjo – Valladolid – GK
David De Gea – Atletico B – GK
Jose Rafael Alamo – Tapachula – GK
Miguel Angel Fraga – Morelia – GK
Alfonso Blanco – Pachuca – GK
Giorgi Makaridze – Dinamo Tbilisi – GK
Joris Delle – Metz – GK
Zakarie Boucher – Havre – GK
Asmir Begovic – Portsmouth – GK
Joao Carlos – Atletico Paranaense – GK
Oscar Ustari – Getafe – GK
Cassio – PSV – GK
Geoffrey Jourdren – Montpellier – GK
Sergio Arias – Chivas – GK

Defenders
-10
Mamadou Sakho – PSG – DLC
-9
Brek Shea – FC Dallas – DL, AMLC
David Rochela – Deportivo B – DC
Atienza Pichu – Atletico B – DC, DM
Cala – Sevilla Atletico – DC, DM
Matej Rapnik – Hearts – DLC
Daniel Carrico – Sporting – DC
Havard Nordtveit – Arsenal – DC, DM
Jonny Evans – Man Utd – DC
Omar Esparza – Chizas – DL, DM, ML
Patricio Araujo – Chivas – SW, DC, DM
Edgar Castillo – Santos Laguna – D/WBL, AML
Allesandro Tuia – Lazio – DC
Alessio Campoli – Lazio – DC
Marco Davide Faraoni – Lazio – DRC
Davide Santon –Inter – D/WB/AMR
Riccardo Brosco – Roma – DC
Nir Mantsur – R. Madrid C – SW. DLC
Tamas Kadar – Newcastle – DLC
Kyriakos Papadopoulos – Olympiakos – DC
Daniel Opare – Castilla – D/WBR
Mats Hummels – Bayern – DC, DM
Daniel Schwaab – Freiburg – DRC, WBR
Jerome Boateng – HSV – D/WBRL
Konstantin Rausch – Hannover – D/WB/ML
Benedikt Howedes – Schalke – DC
Matthieu Saunier – Bordeaux – DRC
Aurelien Teaudors – Sochaux – DC
Armand Traore – Arsenal – D/WB/ML
Jeremy Helan – Rennais – D/WBL
Dennis Appiah – AS Monaco – DC
Darnel Situ – Lens – DC
Thimothee Kolodziecziak – Lens – D/WBL
Jordan Spence – West Ham – DRC
Joe Mattock – Leicester – D/WBL
Mark Beevers – Sheff Wed – DC
Marek Suchy – Slavia Prague – DC, DM
Nicolas N’Koulou – AS Monaco – DRC
Sidnei – Benfica – DC
Rafhael – Figueirense – DC
Gerson – Gremio – DC
Fabio – Man Utd – D/WB/AML
Rafael Forster – Internacional – DLC
Guilherme – Almeria – D/WBL
Mateo Musacchio – Castilla – DRC
Emir Faccioli – Lanus DC
Fabian Monzon – Boca – D/WBL
Cristian Ansaldi – Rubin – D/WBRL, MR
Frederico Fazio – Sevilla – SW, DC, DM
Maximiliano Oliva – River – DLC
Diego Polenta - Genoa - DC
Gareth Bale - Tottenham - D/WB/ML

Midfielders
-10
Martin Galvan – Cruz Azul – AMC
Carlos Vela – Arsenal – AMLC, FC
Gio Dos Santos – Tottenham – AMRLC, FC
Mario Balotelli – Inter – AMRL, S
Toni Kroos – Bayern – AMC
Henri Saviet – Bordeaux – AMRL, FC
Anderson – Man Utd – AMC
Miralem Pjanic – Lyon – AMRC
Brek Shea – FC Dallas – DL, AMLC
Gokhan Tore – Leverkusen – AM/FC
Albin Ekdal – Juventus – AMC
Fran Merida – Arsenal – AMLC
Ruben Ramos – Atletico B - AM/FC
Iago – Juventus – AMLC
Thiago – Barca B – MC
Daniel Pacheco – Liverpool - AM/FC
Daniel Parejo – Castilla – AMC
Aaron – Valencia Mestalla – AMRC, FC
David Moreno – Almeria B – AMLC
Gerardo Bruna – Liverpool – AML
Yoon Bit-Garam – Boo-Kyong High School – DM, AMC
John Fleck – Rangers – AMLC, FC
Al Razvan Ochirosii – Steaua – AML
Gabriel Torje – Dinamo Buc – AMR
Alan Dzagoev – CSKA Moscow – AMC
Daniel Candeias – Porto – AMR
Adrien – Sporting – MC
Helder Barbosa – Porto – AML
Reimond Manco – PSV – AMRLC, FC
Rabiu Ibrahim – Sporting CP – AMC
Hobbit Bermudez – Atlante – AML, S
Omar Esparza – Chizas – DL, DM, ML
Sergio Avila – Chivas – AMLC
Edgar Castillo – Santos Laguna – D/WBL, AML
Victor Manon – Pachuca – AMR, S
Edgar Andrade – Cruz Azul – MRC
Cesar Villaluz – Cruz Azul – AMRC
Antoine N’Gossan – ASEC – AMLC
Marco Ezio Fossati – Inter – MC
Fausto Rossi – Juventus - AML
Fernando Forestieri – Genoa – AM/FC
Davide Petrucci – Man Utd – AM/FC
Davide Santon –Inter – D/WB/AMR
Nacer Barazite – Arsenal – AMC
Rik Schouw – Ajax – MRC
Georginio Wijnaldum – Feyenoord – AMRLC
Rodney Sneijder – Ajax – MRLC
Sotiris Ninis – Panathinaikos – AMRC
Andre Ayew – Marseille – AMRL, FC
Lewis Holtby – Aachen – AMRLC, FC
Mesut Ozil – Werder – AMC
Anis Ben-Hatira – HSV – AMRLC
Konstantin Rausch – Hannover – D/WB/ML
Felix Kroos – Rostock – AM/FC
Marcel Risse – Leverkusen – AMRL
Savio – Brescia – AML
Mehmet Ekici – Bayern – DM, AMC
Deniz Naki – Leverkusen – AMC
Willi Evseev – Hannover – AMRLC, FC
Maxim Choupo-Moting – HSV – AM/FC
Levan Kenia – Schalke – AMC
Sofiane Feghouli – Grenoble – AMLC
Adel Taarabt – Tottenham – AMC
Gael Kakuta – Chelsea – AMLC
Younousse Sankhare – PSG – DM, MLC
Ryad Boudenbouz – Sochaux – AMRL
Alenandre Coeff – Lens – MC
Armand Traore – Arsenal – D/WB/ML
Clement Grenier – Lyon – AMRC
Yacine Brahimi – Rennais – AMC
Damien Le Tallec – Rennais – AM/FC
Henri Lansbury – Arsenal – AMRC
Lauri Della Valle – Liverpool – AM/FC
Jose Baxter – Everton – AMRC, FC
Danny Rose – Tottenham – AML
Jake Thompson – Southampton – AMR
Adam Lallana – Southampton – AMC
John Bostock – Tottenham – AMC
Scott Sinclair – Chelsea – AMRL, S
Jack Wilshere – Arsenal – AMLC
Antonio Valencia – Wigan – AMRC
Lubos Kalouda – CSKA Moscow – AMR
Celso Borges – Saprissa – AMC
Nicolas Millan – Colo Colo – AMRL, FC
Eyong Enoh – Ajax – AMC
Erick Flores – Flamengo – AMRC
Willian – Shakhtar – AMC
Paulo Henrique – Santos – AMC
Neymar – Santos – AM/FC
Fabio – Man Utd – D/WB/AML
Coutinho – Vasco – AMC
Oscar – Sao Paulo – AMC
Walter – Internacional – AM/FC
Felipe – Palmeiras – AMC
Filipe Monteiro – Udinese – AMRC, FC
Mauricio – None (Should be Villarreal iirc) - AML, S
Douglas Costa – Gremio – AMLC
Taison – Internacional – AM/FC
Tales – Internacional – AMC
Choco – Atletico Paranaense – AM/FC
Sergio Mota – Sao Paulo – AMLC
Alex Teixeira – Vasco – AMRLC, FC
Radja Nainggolan – Piacenza – DM, AMRLC
Eden Hazard – LOSC Lille – AM/FC
Sergey Krivets – BATE – AMRC
Alejandro Gomez – Arsenal de Sarandi – AMC
Maximiliano Moralez – FC Moscow – AMRLC
Diego Buonanotte – River – AMLC
Cristian Chavez – Boca – AMRC
Damian Escudero – Villarreal – AMLC
Lucas Trecarichi – Sevilla Atletico – AMLC
Patricio Rodriguez – Indepentiente – AMC
Sebastian Blanco – Lanus – AMRLC
Christian Maidana – Spartak Moscow – AMLC, FC
Cristian Ansaldi – Rubin – D/WBRL, MR
Pablo Piatti – Almeria – AMLC, FC
Lautaro Acosta – Seville – AMRC, FC
Mauro Diaz – River – AMC
Angel Di Maria – Benfica – AMLC
Franco Zuculini – Racing Club – DM, MRC
Gareth Bale - Tottenham - D/WB/ML
Aaron Ramsey - Arsenal - MC

Defensive Midfielders
-10
-9

Sunny – Valencia – DM
Atienza Pichu – Atletico B – DC, DM
Ignacio Camacho – At. Madrid – DM
Cala – Sevilla Atletico – DC, DM
Yoon Bit-Garam – Boo-Kyong High School – DM, AMC
Havard Nordtveit – Arsenal – DC, DM
Lukman Haruna – Monaco – DM
Omar Esparza – Chizas – DL, DM, ML
Patricio Araujo – Chivas – SW, DC, DM
Andrea Poli – Sampdoria – DM
Silvano Raggio Garibaldi – Genoa – DM
Tawrick Jibril – Hearts of Oak – DM
Mats Hummels – Bayern – DC, DM
Sami Khedira – Stuttgart – DM
Lars Bender – 1860 Munich – DM
Mehmet Ekici – Bayern – DM, AMC
Younousse Sankhare – PSG – DM, MLC
Omar Benzerga – Lille – DM
Marek Suchy – Slavia Prague – DC, DM
Arturo Vidal – Leverkusen – DM
Rafael Carioca – Germio – DM
Bernado – Cruseiro – DM
Radja Nainggolan – Piacenza – DM, AMRLC
Ever Banega – Valencia – DM
Frederico Fazio – Sevilla – SW, DC, DM
Franco Zuculini – Racing Club – DM, MRC

Forwards
-10
Bojan – Barca - FC
Carlos Vela – Arsenal – AMLC, FC
Gio Dos Santos – Tottenham – AMRLC, FC
Henri Saviet – Bordeaux – AMRL, FC
-9
Gonzalo Barreto – Danubio – FC
Ruben Ramos – Atletico B - AM/FC
Daniel Pacheco – Liverpool - AM/FC
Aaron – Valencia Mestalla – AMRC, FC
John Fleck – Rangers – AMLC, FC
Bogdan Stancu – Steaua – FC
Yannick Djalo – Sporting – FC
Robert Lewandowski – Lech – FC
Reimond Manco – PSV – AMRLC, FC
Fernando Forestieri – Genoa – AM/FC
Davide Petrucci – Man Utd – AM/FC
Andre Ayew – Marseille – AMRL, FC
Lewis Holtby – Aachen – AMRLC, FC
Felix Kroos – Rostock – AM/FC
Willi Evseev – Hannover – AMRLC, FC
Maxim Choupo-Moting – HSV – AM/FC
Damien Le Tallec – Rennais – AM/FC
Lauri Della Valle – Liverpool – AM/FC
Jose Baxter – Everton – AMRC, FC
Christian Benitez – Santos Laguna – FC
Tomas Necid – Slavia Prague – FC
Nicolas Millan – Colo Colo – AMRL, FC
Neymar – Santos – AM/FC
Filipe Monteiro – Udinese – AMRC, FC
Walter – Internacional – AM/FC
Taison – Internacional – AM/FC
Choco – Atletico Paranaense – AM/FC
Alex Teixeira – Vasco – AMRLC, FC
Eden Hazard – LOSC Lille – AM/FC
Gabriel Rodriguez – Boca – FC
Christian Maidana – Spartak Moscow – AMLC, FC
Ricardo Noir – Boca – FC
Pablo Piatti – Almeria – AMLC, FC
Jonathan Cristaldo – Velez – FC

Strikers
-10
Mario Balotelli – Inter – AMRL, S
-9
Jozy Altidore – Villarreal – S
Batuhan Karadeniz – Besiktas – S
Emilio Nsue – Mallorca B – S
Adrian – Deportivo – S
Kermit Erasmus – Feyenoord – S
Gary Glen – Hearts – S
Alexandr Prudnikov – Spartak Moscow – S
Fedor Smolov – Dinamo Moscow – S
Macauley Chrisantus – HSV – S
Hobbit Bermudez – Atlante – AML, S
Ever Guzman – Morelia – S
Antonio Salazar - Chivas – S
Ulises Davila – Chivas – S
Victor Manon – Pachuca – AMR, S
Alberto Paloschi – Parma – S
Krisztian Nemeth – Liverpool – S
Sadick Adams – Atletico B – S
Ransford Osei – Kessben – S
Manuel Fischer – Stuttgart – S
Richard Sukata-Pasu – Leverkusen – S
David N’Gog – Liverpool – S
Yannis Tafer – Lyon – S
Vincent Acapandie – Auxerre – S
Danny Welbeck – Man Utd – S
Scott Sinclair – Chelsea – AMRL, S
Nathan Delfouneso – Villa – S
Martin Fenin – Frankfurt – S
Vaclav Kadlec – Sparta Prague – S
Santiago Trellez – Valez – S
Marco Perez – Chico FC – S
Mauricio – None (Should be Villarreal iirc) - AML, S
Tiago Lius – Santos – S
Nicolas Mazzola – Independiente – S
Frederico Laurito – Udinese – S
Gabriel Perez Tariffa – Argentinos – S

link to shortlist

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evil-monkey

i don't get this -9 -10 PA thing. According to this list all the top class players have a minus potential ability rating??

leninbenjamin

evil-monkey wrote: »

i don't get this -9 -10 PA thing. According to this list all the top class players have a minus potential ability rating??

I know i answered you in the other thread, but in case there are others who've only read this thread and are interested;

the minus PA numbers can be thought of as a random number generator, the random bit is represented by the minus sign and the digits represent the bands within which the actual generated number should lie. All young players in the database (usually 18 and below) don't actually have their PA set, but a random number between 0 - 200 is generated upon starting the game. players with a PA of -10 represent the most desireable players and the ones who are likely to become world class in time. -1 is the worse and these players rarely get offered a professional contract. My understanding is that SI chose this method to introduce a element of variation and realism in the game, as opposed to hardcoding everyones PA.

Frisbee

Interesting to see Brek Shea is a -9.
Didn't even look at his PA, just picked him up for the craic. Savage

glenjamin

Bad to see there are no Irish on the list.

HalloweenJack

Having a go with Real and bought Veloso for 17m and Balotelli for 12.5m.

Hoping this will help me win a few trophies.