TV's with MPEG4 DTT decoder

Sponge Bob

Whoa, is it the EU or France. France does not allow a TV to be sold as HD Ready without Mpeg4 because the French HD DTT network uses Mpeg4.

This for nearly 2 years .

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000000248397&dateTexte=

French to English translation ( translate.google.com is wonderful)

Within nine months from the date of enactment of this Act, the TVs sold through industrial distributors of consumer electronics in the country include an adapter to receive services of digital terrestrial television.

Within twelve months from the date of enactment of this Act, the televisions sold to consumers in the country include an adapter for receiving the services of digital terrestrial television.

From 1 December 2008, televisions and recorders for sale by a professional for receiving the HD programs include an adapter for this purpose.

From 1 December 2009, televisions over 66 inches diagonal screen for individuals for receiving the digital terrestrial television services at their disposal by a professional to a particular need to integrate an adapter that allows reception of all free programs of digital terrestrial television, high definition and standard definition.

From 1 December 2012, all televisions to individuals for receiving the digital terrestrial television services at their disposal by a particular professional, need an adapter that allows reception of all programs Free digital terrestrial TV in high definition and standard definition.

From 1 December 2012, the individual adapters for receiving digital terrestrial television services at their disposal by a professional to a particular need to allow reception of all free programs DTT in high definition and standard definition.

The Cush

John Dough wrote: »

It is quite obvious T2 will be used as HD will be the defacto requirement now.

At minimum DTT HD will only require DVB-T/MPEG-4, e.g. a recent Spanish Royal Decree (Law 691/2010) sets the requirements for the rollout of DTT HD services in Spain as DVB-T with H.264/MPEG-4 video compression standard (although future more efficient standards are not ruled out). Spain has carried out some DVB-T2 trials but the Law only requires DVB-T/MPEG-4 tuners within 6 months.

John Dough wrote: »

Manufacturers have been told by the E.U. to phase out DVB-T and mpeg 2 tuners as there is widespread confusion among residents of the E.U. regarding standards.

All retailers now have to label their tvs with the correct spec. tuner as sets were being dumped by most of the big supermarkets /catalogue firms etc. on the E.U. market with old mpeg2 tuners which would not work with most of the newer Mpeg 4 transmissions or HD hence the use of T2 tuners nowadays.
Check the E.U. website for specific details

Kensington wrote: »

The EU may be moving to standardise receiver specs however it simply means future receivers must be DVB-T2 capable. Transmissions will carry on as normal in DVB-T across the EU.

Apogee wrote: »

The EU have started a push to phase out MPEG2 video compression for MPEG4. When did they mention DVB-T2?

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Whoa, is it the EU or France.

@ John Dough
No such requirement that I know of, can you post a link?

You may be getting confused with an EC Digital Dividend consultation launched 12 months ago (previous post & post) which discussed options for the efficient use of spectrum post Digital Dividend including - the availability of a compression standard on all DTT receivers sold after 1 January 2012 that is at least as efficient as the H264/MPEG-4 AVC standard (taking into consideration the average renewal time frame for set-top boxes and TV sets of 5 to 8 years when thinking of transitioning from existing MPEG-2 services) and "promoting collaboration between Member States to share future broadcasting network deployment plans (e.g. migration to MPEG-4 or DVB-T2)".

Following the consultation the Commission, in late Oct 2009, published it's response in COM(2009) 586. No binding decisions were made only "promising initiatives".

Hairy Ned

Hi i need a tv Irish dtt ready Mpeg4, for kitchen a 22 to 24 ins would do which one would you guys recommend.

STB

Hairy Ned wrote: »

Hi i need a tv Irish dtt ready Mpeg4, for kitchen a 22 to 24 ins would do which one would you guys recommend.

Pick One (make sure it says TNT HD/MPEG4 in description - most of them do, some good bargains to be had)

http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/rf/tnt-hd/__?t=3_1 €180 up.

reslfj

The Cush wrote: »

Following the consultation the Commission, in late Oct 2009, published it's response in COM(2009) 586. No binding decisions were made only "promising initiatives".

The Commisson decided to focus on recommending:

1. The 800 MHz band for mobile broadband - EU wide.

2. DSO as early as possible and best before 2012 - EU wide.

Several comments at the time of the consultation were along the lines -
"MPEG4 and DVB-T2 will be standard in consumer products rather soon anyway"


Lars

upsilon

carefull it needs to be mheg-5 as well to get the benefit on electronic program guide.

Sam Russell

upsilon wrote: »

carefull it needs to be mheg-5 as well to get the benefit on electronic program guide.

Could MHEG5 be added by a firmware update to a product? Also is MHEG5 a licenced product?

STB

Sam Russell wrote: »

Could MHEG5 be added by a firmware update to a product? Also is MHEG5 a licenced product?

Yes and No and Yes.

Yes it could be sorted with a firmware upgrade. No it wont be because Yes its a licensed product. The reluctance would be there from the manufacturer to add it on afterwards.

Infact in most cases you will find it locked down in the firmware to country profile ie choose a country other than UK and its turned off.

Sam Russell

STB wrote: »

Yes and No and Yes.

Yes it could be sorted with a firmware upgrade. No it wont be because Yes its a licensed product. The reluctance would be there from the manufacturer to add it on afterwards.

Infact in most cases you will find it locked down in the firmware to country profile ie choose a country other than UK and its turned off.

Is it possible to 'alter' the effects of country code in firmware? For example, make the UK settings work for Ireland. I'm thinking of the Freesat/Freeview iDTVs where the country code would be UK for Freesat but Ireland for Saorview.

STB

Sam Russell wrote: »

Is it possible to 'alter' the effects of country code in firmware? For example, make the UK settings work for Ireland. I'm thinking of the Freesat/Freeview iDTVs where the country code would be UK for Freesat but Ireland for Saorview.

Not knowing if there are limitations to the particular licence usage of MHEG5 in certain products and nature of the licensing is the problem.

I would imagine that in the case that it licensed on a unit basis rather than country usage basis that the answer is YES, it could be "ticked on" in the Irish firmware, if the firmware was tweaked.

Getting the manufacturer to bother to do this is the obstacle then. Little old Ireland, they might not necessarily be bothered to roll out a firmware flash update - SD slot/USB required on TV.

LG are very proactive in this regard especially in Poland.

Sam Russell

My Sony has over the air software update. So presumably, RTENL could organise some of the more populous brands/models to be upgraded ota.

STB

I wouldnt think OTA would be used for non saorview approved equipment (if any).

You are depending on manufacturers to support old legacy IDTVs.

watty

3rd parties provide OTA updates for some/many Freeview boxs. Some early ones nearly orphaned from any EPG recently as they don't support the normal Freeview EPG.

The Cush

This is the Freeview Engineering Channel Over-air Download Schedule administered by DTG Testing Ltd.

A similar service will be provided by RTÉNL to be carried on the Saorview multiplex.

5.10 SYSTEM SOFTWARE UPDATES
System Software Updates shall be implemented ‘over the air’ with the data in the form dictated by EN 101 192, conforming to TS 102 006.

The tenderer shall specify what bit rate the proposed SSU mechanism shall use

This from Minimum Receiver Requirements for FTA DTT for RTÉ

9.1. Clarifications to NorDig Unified specifications (chapter 11)

An upgrade/replacement of the IRD’s software is here referred to as System Software Update (SSU).
If the SSU is via transmitting the new IRD’s software over the broadcast channel it may also be
referred to as Over-The-Air (OTA) download.

The IRD shall provide a mechanism to detect corrupt downloaded system software before it is used to
replace the current working software. If the received system software is corrupt (refer to sub clause
11.2 in NorDig Unified), the IRD shall keep the current (working) version of the system software, thus
making the IRD operational again. If so, the failure to download shall be indicated to the user with an
error message that can be used in the contact with the customer relations office. It shall be possible for
the user to abort the download (in areas of bad reception quality the download may take too long time)
and the IRD shall be operational using the current version of system software.

The IRD manufacturer shall provide the required MPEG-2 TS binary file
(containing only the applicable SSU service and all its (PSI/SI) signalling
necessary for successful upgrade) intended for cyclic broadcast for each new version intended for
system software download. For each new version of system software over-the-air download, the
manufacturer shall provide all necessary description documents to the network operator required for
the transmission of the new software.

watty wrote: »

3rd parties provide OTA updates for some/many Freeview boxs. Some early ones nearly orphaned from any EPG recently as they don't support the normal Freeview EPG.

InView/4TV ends Freeview box EPG updates
4TV/Inview discontinued the 14 day EPG service on Freeview without notice

Similar situation shouldn't happen here, no multiplex capacity, market probably too small for such a service. Anyway we will have two epgs 7 day DVB-SI and 7/? day MHEG-5. The DVB-SI epg should be available if the MHEG-5 one is unavailable but no such back-up on freeview as they don't use SI for 7 day epg (now & next info maybe??).

The Cush

MHEG-5 update

MHEG confirmed for Irish market | Broadband TV News

Ireland’s public broadcaster RTE has confirmed it will be using MHEG-5 as the middleware for the Irish digital terrestrial system.

“Our principal initial objective with reception equipment is to encourage the development of a competitive horizontal market,” says Emer Conlon, IT project manager, RTÉ Publishing. “The key reason for selecting MHEG is the broad consumer choice based on existing product development in other markets and the short-term availability of receiver products using existing supply channels. We have seen the success of MHEG in the UK and elsewhere and that simply isn’t the case for other middlewares. MHEG has very strong manufacturer support.”

RTÉ has initially specified the MHEG 1.06 profile with the addition of HD capabilities with the broadcaster looking at further options as the DTT project develops.

The news was welcomed by David Cutts, MD of S&T and founder of IMPALA: “A vibrant supply chain is vital to support the effective rollout of new platforms and services. Over its years of success manufactures have consistently supported MHEG, via a stringent conformance regime and the development of country-specific profiles. We are pleased that these benefits have been recognised by RTE.”

MHEG-5, which has been a part of the UK terrestrial system since its launch in November 1998, had been mooted as Ireland’s middleware of choice since the involvement of the Swedish Boxer. At that time the possibility of a Nordic-wide rollout was on the cards, and although this did not proceed, RTE did join the Nordig alliance and will use Teracom’s testing facility for set-top boxes entering the Irish market.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2010/08/04/mheg-confirmed-for-irish-market/

IMPALA Press Release

MHEG COMMUNITY WELCOMES RTÉ’S SELECTION OF MHEG FOR IRISH DTT

London, UK – 4th August 2010: IMPALA, the International MHEG Promotion Alliance, has welcomed the news that Ireland’s public broadcaster RTÉ has selected MHEG as the interactive middleware for the rollout of its national DTT service.

“Our principal initial objective with reception equipment is to encourage the development of a competitive horizontal market,” says Emer Conlon, IT Project Manager, RTÉ Publishing. “The key reason for selecting MHEG is the broad consumer choice based on existing product development in other markets and the short-term availability of receiver products using existing supply channels. We have seen the success of MHEG in the UK and elsewhere and that simply isn’t the case for other middlewares. MHEG has very strong manufacturer support.”

RTÉ has initially specified the MHEG 1.06 profile with the addition of HD capabilities with the broadcaster looking at further options as the DTT project develops. The broadcaster will be providing a free-to-air service to the Republic of Ireland’s approximately 1.6 million TV homes and it will launch with the digital teletext service RTÉ Aertel. There will be two DTT multiplexes with HD content forming part of the offering soon after launch. A satellite service – similar to Freesat in the UK – will provide access to the small number of households who can’t receive the DTT signals.

David Cutts, MD of S&T and Founder of IMPALA, says, “A vibrant supply chain is vital to support the effective rollout of new platforms and services. Over its years of success manufactures have consistently supported MHEG, via a stringent conformance regime and the development of country-specific profiles. We are pleased that these benefits have been recognised by RTE.”

The founder members of IMPALA are Strategy & Technology (S&T), Cabot Communications and Echostar Europe.

About IMPALA
IMPALA (International MHEG Promotion Alliance) is a newly formed association of software manufacturers and supporters who are engaged with the use of MHEG. IMPALA, founded by Strategy & Technology (S&T), Cabot Communications and EchoStar Europe, promotes the use of the MHEG-5 interactive TV standard outside the UK for public service broadcasters in terrestrial, satellite or cable; wherever the use of low cost iTV technology is a benefit. For further information see www.impala.org.

http://www.impala.org/sites/default/files/MHEG%20COMMUNITY%20WELCOMES%20RTE'S%20SELECTION%20OF%20MHEG%20FOR%20IRISH%20DTT.pdf

galtee boy

While in London last week, a local Tesco store had a Technika ( Tesco own brand ) 40" LED TV, full 1080p, 100hz, with a Samsung panel and clearly marked on it also, Mpeg4 H.264 ! all for £599 GBP. I haven't seen any reviews on it yet, but an LED with that spec and Mpeg4 for that money, does look a bargain, especially with Irish DTT in mind.

watty

The local Tesco in Limerick has 22" HDTV seemingly for "Freeview HD" with DVD player built in for €185.

It's unclear if it's really a Freeview HD, or just an HD Ready TV with Freeview. No mention of MHEG5 though.

I presume if I bought it via their web site distance selling rules would apply and I could take it back?

John Dough

Yes you could as a guy I know works for Tesco and they got a load of Mpeg2 sets back that would not work here and gave full refunds.

A full 2 year guarantee now applies E.U. wide on all TV sets.

mossym

galtee boy wrote: »

While in London last week, a local Tesco store had a Technika ( Tesco own brand ) 40" LED TV, full 1080p, 100hz, with a Samsung panel and clearly marked on it also, Mpeg4 H.264 ! all for £599 GBP. I haven't seen any reviews on it yet, but an LED with that spec and Mpeg4 for that money, does look a bargain, especially with Irish DTT in mind.

40" samsung c650 can be had for just over that online and has those specs + more and I have it working with Irish dtt

STB

watty wrote: »

The local Tesco in Limerick has 22" HDTV seemingly for "Freeview HD" with DVD player built in for €185.

It's unclear if it's really a Freeview HD, or just an HD Ready TV with Freeview. No mention of MHEG5 though.

I presume if I bought it via their web site distance selling rules would apply and I could take it back?

Check the UK website - Its there own brand Technika ?

Here are all the Technika's

http://direct.tesco.com/q/N.1999564$4294967070.aspx

It has a spec sheet for each and a yes/no for Freeview HD.

They were selling the Technika STBHDIS2010 Freeview HD Set Top Box for STG£60 a week or so in the UK.

Velcrow

Keeping on the tesco vibe what are peoples thoughts on this Sony - on offer for 650

Sony 40w5500

Does it support mheg 5 and is it worth the cash?

Has anyone got a recommendation for a 40 inch LCD within the 500-600 budget that's fully compatible?

Thanks velcrow

JAMM222

lads i have a samsung b650 tv will that support dtt? if so how do i tune it in?

Zonda999

JAMM222 wrote: »

lads i have a samsung b650 tv will that support dtt? if so how do i tune it in?

Yep, should do

All you have to do is connect it up to the aerial the same way you did so with analogue, through the tv's RF port that is, and then do a digital search and the DTT channels should show up

JAMM222

Zonda999 wrote: »

Yep, should do

All you have to do is connect it up to the aerial the same way you did so with analogue, through the tv's RF port that is, and then do a digital search and the DTT channels should show up

Hi

I have done this but am having no luck i did a digital tune through air and cable and nothing is showing up at all. The ariel i have is on top of the house and there are ports in most rooms i have a cable going from the port into the back of the tv

not sure weather the b650 has a mpeg4 tuner or not

any help appreciated

Cheers

Rick_

I have the Samsung B450 and it has an MPEG4 tuner, I understand the B650 is a higher spec model, so I would imagine it should have the MPEG4 decoder in it. What transmitter are you receiving from? Can you get analogue only, or nothing at all during a scan?

JAMM222

Eternal Wonderer wrote: »

I have the Samsung B450 and it has an MPEG4 tuner, I understand the B650 is a higher spec model, so I would imagine it should have the MPEG4 decoder in it. What transmitter are you receiving from? Can you get analogue only, or nothing at all during a scan?

cheers mate im just getting analog with the scan, i have scanned for digital and analog, digital on its own and all i get is analog rte pretty poor no tv3 do i need a new ariel?

John mac

JAMM222 wrote: »

cheers mate im just getting analog with the scan, i have scanned for digital and analog, digital on its own and all i get is analog rte pretty poor no tv3 do i need a new ariel?

where do you live?

What transmitter are you receiving from

without this info we can not help.

JAMM222

between the about 3k south of stamullen co. meath 20k from drogheda

STB

JAMM222 wrote: »

between the about 3k south of stamullen co. meath 20k from drogheda

Lets hope there is not a direct connection between the lack of reception in Meath and and that of the Dubs performance this wekend:)

738 MHZ Channel 54. Try a manual tune. What kind of aerial are you using ?

piaget

Have a Philips 32pl7404 in the kids playroom hooked up to a really cheap €5 Argos aerial from the old CRT portable. Picture quality is superb 95% of the time but can get some really bad pixellation especially on RTE1.

Is this normal bacause DTT is still in test phase or would it be worth upgrading the indoor aerial.

Do'nt want to do an outside aerial unless i'm doing a freesat install at the same time. I'm in Dublin 12 btw.

STB

piaget wrote: »

Have a Philips 32pl7404 in the kids playroom hooked up to a really cheap €5 Argos aerial from the old CRT portable. Picture quality is superb 95% of the time but can get some really bad pixellation especially on RTE1.

Is this normal bacause DTT is still in test phase or would it be worth upgrading the indoor aerial.

Do'nt want to do an outside aerial unless i'm doing a freesat install at the same time. I'm in Dublin 12 btw.

Some cheap indoor aerials are prone to interference from mobile/cordless phones, light switches, anything electrical.

Place the aerial on a window cill (if you can). You may have to extend the distance from the TV with a longer cable (but not too long).

Quality of signal and signal strength too different things.

Obviously a little outdoor aerial (doesnt have to be on the roof) will be more rock solid than an indoor.

lukejr

Sorry if this has been asked before.

Is there any MPEG4 decoder boxes available in Ireland for DTT? My LG LCD doesn't support MPEG4 (only get audio).

Thanks.

piaget

STB wrote: »

Some cheap indoor aerials are prone to interference from mobile/cordless phones, light switches, anything electrical.

Place the aerial on a window cill (if you can). You may have to extend the distance from the TV with a longer cable (but not too long).

Quality of signal and signal strength too different things.

Obviously a little outdoor aerial (doesnt have to be on the roof) will be more rock solid than an indoor.

Thanks for that, give it a bash tonight.

watty

you need a better aerial. ALL the Argos set-top aerials are poor.

piaget

watty wrote: »

you need a better aerial. ALL the Argos set-top aerials are poor.

Watty,

Any recommendations on what and where to buy, preferably not one of those extending car aerial type jobs.

Cheers

watty

Something like this:


They are from 6 Euro in bargain shops and about 15 Euro in Maplin. Many variations.

You can use extension lead and put it at window. Only use an amplifier near the aerial and if a long extension cable or it's in the Attic/Loft. If no good in room, try loft or upstairs. If still no good put one of these two in loft /attic.



Pointy bit points at TV mast, or on grid the box faces mast.

The rods are Horizontal or Vertical angle depending on which RTE mast. Try both orientations if in doubt. The photos all show "Horizontal". The Set-top model swivels in stand. The Yagi (2nd Aerial) is not swivelled in bracket, the entire bracket is mounted to side of pole to make rods vertical. The entire bowtie/Grid (wideband quad array) is mounted as shown for Horizontal (bows are horizontal) and simply the bracket is attached at right angles to the main reflector to attach the entire assembly for vertical polarisation (up and down bows)

If still no good, put the real aerial outdoors.

Amplifiers are really either only to boost signal before splitting signal or about 1.5m away from aerial to drive longer coax cable to cancel cable losses.

A poor quality (or too much gain) amplifier will overload with Tetra or co-channel and cause herring bones on Analogue or breakup on Digital.

forestman

Hi.

I have a Philips40PFL8605H (http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=40PFL8605H/12&scy=nl&slg=en) What do I need to do to get the DTT channells on this? I have no house aerial, just Sky. Would be interested to see what it can do. Also will it just show now and next on the epg or will it give me the 8 days?

Thanks

Clover

Have a Samsung LE40C530 and this arial set up and getting the Irish DTT in nice and clear.

Ps: what would I need to get to split the arial signal and feed it into other rooms in the house ? and how would I go about doing it , thanks .

John mac

Clover wrote: »

Ps: what would I need to get to split the arial signal and feed it into other rooms in the house ? and how would I go about doing it , thanks .

you can use a 'Y' splitter on the aerial , but you will need to have a mpeg4 decoder on the other tv.

Clover

Thanks John ,

I have two of them in my toolbox , can I just keep splitting the feed into other rooms with that type splitter without degrading the signal ?

Sam Russell

Clover wrote: »

Thanks John ,

I have two of them in my toolbox , can I just keep splitting the feed into other rooms with that type splitter without degrading the signal ?

No, you lose 3db per side. If you have more than one spit to do, use a distribution amp.

I'm possibly looking at getting a new TV but it's a minefield out there and have been holding off out of fear that I'll get the wrong thing. I'm looking for something with MPEG-4 and good SD quality as apart from blu-ray I'll be using it for SD material most of the time. I think the picture quality is most important as I certainly don't want to be looking at YouTube style video on a TV. I'll also be using it with consoles so plasmas might be out of the equation (burn in et all).

The absolute biggest I can accommodate is 37" with 32" probably being more suitable and am looking around the €600 mark. Any recommendations?

Also, at the moment I have a 21" 4:3 CRT, would a 32" 16:9 be noticeably bigger?

watty

Measure the Height!

You want the same height of picture. the 21" is diagonal. 3:4:5 triangle
so it's 21 x 3/5 high = 12.6" minimum screen height for screen

The diagonal of a WS TV is 2.03973 x the height, roughly x2
so minimum WS is 25.2, about 26" for same hieight picture as your 4:3 TV


if existing 4:3 TV has speakers at side and is CRT, then a 32" WS with slim bezel at side and speakers under or behind is hardly bigger.

Go for a 32" 1920x1080 native (not the 1366 x768 "hd ready") or a ideally a 37" if it will fit. Measure the space and take tape measure to showrooms, even if you are buying online. Decent Cinema Wide screen needs at least the 37" as it has back bars top & bottom on decent DVD or BD transfers even on WS TV.

Yeah it does have speakers at the side, though I was mostly referring to screen size rather than the whole unit. I'm going on the observation that my 17" 16:10 laptop still has a smaller vertical screen area than my old 15" 4:3 one. But you're right, should just get the measuring tape out!

I can fit a 37" but it would be tight. Then again I won't be staying where I am forever so could use that as an excuse.

watty

You'll not regret a decent 37".
Esp. on BD

I was re-watching the 1st Harry Potter film last night. It really needs a bigger screen as it's 2.35:1 Even with non-HD good quality DVD will look good.

Also more HD on RTE, BBC, ITV and probably TG4 next year to 2012.
Even TV3 are talking about HD.

If you have a typical size Living Room rather than Broom cupboard the 37" won't dominate. I'd like a triple DLP projector with 2:1 Zoom lens. About 36" for "regular" TV and 60" to 72" (depending on how widescreen it is) for Cinematic stuff. Choice of two sizes pull up or down screens so it's not there when not watched.

paulclan

I emailed the support link to see if this would decode MPeg4 H264 if that is what RTENL puts out!
They just said they had not tried it in Ireland.
the Spec says it handles MPEG4, but that could mean only files.
Anybody on here have a steer on this.
I want a unit for campervan/boat use here and EU.
Thanks if anybody has tried this or can offer an opinion?

here is the link:http://www.wedodigital.co.uk/12v-tv/

forestman

Anyone?

forestman wrote: »

Hi.

I have a Philips40PFL8605H (http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=40PFL8605H/12&scy=nl&slg=en) What do I need to do to get the DTT channells on this? I have no house aerial, just Sky. Would be interested to see what it can do. Also will it just show now and next on the epg or will it give me the 8 days?

Thanks

STB

paulclan wrote: »

I emailed the support link to see if this would decode MPeg4 H264 if that is what RTENL puts out!
They just said they had not tried it in Ireland.
the Spec says it handles MPEG4, but that could mean only files.
Anybody on here have a steer on this.
I want a unit for campervan/boat use here and EU.
Thanks if anybody has tried this or can offer an opinion?

here is the link:http://www.wedodigital.co.uk/12v-tv/

No No No.

Broadcast MPEG4 H264 processor and MPEG4 for divx completely diffrent things.

Its a freeview product. MPEG2 no good for Ireland or EU countries with MPEG4.

You are looking for 12v MPEG4 ? Look at the French sites. "TNT HD"

forestman wrote: »

Anyone?

If in Dublin you could use a small indoor aerial positioned at the window. 7 day epg, yes. RTE1,2 TG4 and RTE News Now at moment.

paulclan

Thanks STB,

I guessed as much, nothing is simple these days!
I'll search under TNT HD and perhaps I could post again if I get bogged down!The home set a Samsung 32" 720p from Pow city works very well near the Three rock on a small rooftop aerial, I guess HD is not so important in a campervan/boat but the ability to decode the signal surely is!
Very helpful member, thanks.:)

STB

paulclan wrote: »

Thanks STB,

I guessed as much, nothing is simple these days!
I'll search under TNT HD and perhaps I could post again if I get bogged down!The home set a Samsung 32" 720p from Pow city works very well near the Three rock on a small rooftop aerial, I guess HD is not so important in a campervan/boat but the ability to decode the signal surely is!
Very helpful member, thanks.:)

Big problem the 12v but you will find it. Be careful though. Some of the sellers conveniently run the words MPEG4 TNT and HD ready together and you could be mugged. Post what you think might be your solution and someonee will look at it for you before you rush in. I have seen ones 12v MPEG4 TNTHD receivers but they have to be conncted to a screen. Do you need a screen/small monitor ?