Planning permission to widen entrance?

IsThatSo?

Hi

I want to widen the entrance to my driveway. As its a boundary wall do I need planning permission to do this?

Any info appreciated, tried to wade my way through the SDCC site but couldn't find info.

Many thanks.

Gumbo

yes, you need planning permission to create or widen an existing vechile entrance. iirc

IsThatSo?

OK, have done some serious googling and looked at many current planning applications and every last one of them was requesting permission for a business premises. I didn't come across one residential application.

I may set aside a few hours for myself in the morning I think, and try and beat myself through the red tape via phone at SDCC and get a definitive answer.

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

PS. The builder says we don't need permission as we have an existing driveway, but I want to be sure to be sure.

sinnerboy

you need permission

DOCARCH

Just to save you a bit of time - you do need planning permission!

A lot of people do widen their entrance without planning permision and then you see a lot of people having to apply for retention whenever it might come to selling.

Mellor

IsThatSo, you need planning. The FAQ section on the SDCC website should answer your questions. Its a minor job, and a local guy would probably prepare the package as a nixer

RKQ

I agree, permission is required to widen an existing entrance.:)

IsThatSo?

Thanks, have begun the process

muffler

Good. Because I was going to say that you need permission

IsThatSo?

K, I get the hint...........subtle though it was :pac:

IsThatSo?

there is no embarassed smiley for this question..............

I need to get someone to draw up the proposed alterations for me. One person told me an Engineer, another said an Architect and yet another said no, get a Surveyor...............................

Which is it??

muffler

IsThatSo? wrote: »

Which is it??

See. I fixed that for you

Shameless plug. Get your self a technician or a draughtsman. Its only a small job and you know you could nearly do it yourself.

IsThatSo?

muffler wrote: »

See. I fixed that for you

Shameless plug. Get your self a technician or a draughtsman. Its only a small job and you know you could nearly do it yourself.

Thanks

Yes. I probably could do a reasonable effort but if there were any queries on it I would be sunk so to prevent delays I reckon the longest way around will be the shortest way home

muffler

7 day ban for xt40 for his unwelcome comments

Mellor

IsThatSo? wrote: »

there is no embarassed smiley for this question..............

I need to get someone to draw up the proposed alterations for me. One person told me an Engineer, another said an Architect and yet another said no, get a Surveyor...............................

Which is it??

Well they are all right,
A suitable architect, engineer or surveyor could the work.
As could an Arch Tech, who in my opinion would be the best option due to the fact that for a small job, the better and faster thay are at drafting, the best for you

Schooby

Schedule 2 Part 1 of the planning regs gives this exemption
CLASS 5
The construction, erection or alteration,
within or bounding the curtilage of a
house, of a gate, gateway, railing or
wooden fence or a wall of brick, stone,
blocks with decorative finish, other
concrete blocks or mass concrete.

there is a limitation to this is arcticle 9 of the regs which states the road must be under 4m in width, so subject to the speifics of your situation and any limitations with regard to conditions in any previous permission permission may not be required, your builder may have been right, if you need a definite answer taking account of the site specifics and planning history you could get a form from your local planning authority and apply for a section 5 declaration which will be alot cheaper and quicker than applying for permission.

IsThatSo?

OK, assuming that I understood you correctly (debatable!!) I went out and measured the road directly in front of our house, its 5.5m from kerb to kerb. Its a housing estate road, rather than a busy main road.

If I made a complete idiot of myself doing that could you explain it a bit more clearly please?:o

Big thanks for the info.

PS we are the first owners of this property and have never made any other alterations.

sydthebeat

scooby is quite correct.....

the widening needs permission as it:

"Development to which article 6 relates shall not be
exempted development for the purposes of the Act—
(a) if the carrying out of such development would—
(i) contravene a condition attached to a
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permission under the Act or be inconsistent
with any use specified in a permission under
the Act,
(ii) consist of or comprise the formation, laying
out or material widening of a means of access
to a public road the surfaced carriageway of
which exceeds 4 metres in width,"

from http://www.environ.ie/en/Legislation/DevelopmentandHousing/Planning/FileDownLoad,8797,en.pdf

So its specifically mentioned in balck and white in the regs!

IsThatSo?

Scrap plan B so

Plan A it is.

Thanks, really appreciate the input.

muffler

Mellor wrote: »

As could an Arch Tech, who in my opinion would be the best option due to the fact that for a small job, the better and faster thay are at drafting, the best for you

Give that man a pint