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Enjoying your DeathKnight ?
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Here's a couple more ideas. Maybe I like tanking the instance? Maybe I even like PVPing as a tank? Maybe I'm really enjoying it as it is?
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My apologies, my post was more of an elaboration off Manties top post on this page. I was under the impression you felt obliged to specc prot to fill out the tanking instance role, so of course carry on if you like what your doing
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Been playing now all of 2days and I love my new main
Anyway few tips for people using the class if they don't already know.
Mounting and demounting will heal your ghoul to full hp for you
A good cycle i found which enables you to have full hp after every mob is
icy touch / plague strike / death strike (heal) / blood strike x2 - normally the mob is down after this
for pure dps use the same as above but change death strike with scourge strike.
deathcoiling can heal your ghoul also, anyway I know you probs all know but just said i'd give a little feedback as you never know.
Anyway once again loving it 0 -
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I've dueled everything and not had trouble against much.
fighting a mage as unholy they just go down so fast.
grip then some dps, tries get away chains, mind freeze, silence, use your trinket and or ur icebound fortitude to avoid being stunned and take half the damage game over.
Rogues not had any trouble either, who knows maybe im playing retards.
I do have alot of key bindings close to me + bartender for trinkets/freeze/chains/etc etc0 -
Yeah thats what would happen if the mage attacked me with none of his CD's, it sounds like your playing nabs
frost mages can have up to 3 novas if they are glyphed correctly and also their new 51 point talent which lets just say gets you owned. Now in saying that, i had a few mages pissin me off last night and in the end i think i killed them more, but never with ease.
Don't get me wrong, im pretty sure i can overcome every class, its just not certainly easy and were in no way OP. Its just other players who don't have much knowledge about the DK's spells and abilities so they don't know what to look out for with counters and thus get owned.0 -
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LordChessington wrote: »
How the hell are you supposed to compete with that?
keep him out of melee range, and tbh i wouldn't advise jumping a DK attacking a mob as good chance he will have alot of runic power. We only have like 1 range dmg attack that doesnt require runic power, so its best to get us when were low on runic power 0 -
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Gummy Panda wrote: »I heard frost DK's can destory mages but hey it came from the official forums.
Jayde from the beta has a footage of his DK doing well in a bg. I think its people aren't use to countering them so its all new and that scares people into shouting NERF!!
anyway, I'm lv 74 and am starting to hate the ghoul. Unholy is really starting to annoying me. I think its because i did a few instances in a row with it, and each one had a boss who did aoe. Ghoul pretty much got killed in a single aoe. Also its fcuking annoying how slow he gets out of the ground after dismounting.
Only thing keeping me unholy is the faster mount, the good dps (able to kill elites better then other specs imo or i need to l2p those specs) and the how my diseases improve caster dps for my mage friends.
Frost and blood are very tempting to change to especially at lv80. With frost i can give a mini WF bonus to the raid (my tank would like that) and blood i can improved strenght and do a raid wide rune tap heal.
Not seen any frost ones or had no frost ones come at me - only unholy or blood ....... might ask one of my guild to respec his to frost & let me try kick his ass in gurbashi .....
However, I do think alot of the DK's running around are from people who've never played a Paladin-style class, which is what I am finding the DK closer to from my own experience, or people who've never PVP-ed with a melee style character. Time will tell, but I know if I see a DK slightly above or around my level on my realm, it's easy pickings .... hehehehehehe0 -
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First thing ANY mage should do when they see a DK is get that counterspell on, & if you've enhanced counter spell, you're laughing.
if you've an undead mage, ur laughing too - WoTF is very very useful, as is invisbility, frost nova, slow & polymorph (with a presence of mind).
DK's you CC the heck out of as you hammer them down. Keep throwig in CC's, blinks, & counterspells & manage your rotations right & NEVER let panic get to you, & they are easy to pwn. Only thing I find I can't seem to do much of is get a spellsteal in, like I do on Paladins - but they are still my damned kryptonite - Rogues are no longer an issue for me.
I've few problems disposing of a DK in 4-6 casts as an arcane mage. It's rather funny watching a DK get hammered without as much as being able to do a grab on you 0 -
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copeyhagen wrote: »have only died once by ganking while leveling. i have been jumped loads of times but only once was my ass handed to me, by a mage.
in fairness i was like 3/4 health and he jumped me from a distance while i was turning in quests in borean tundra at that ledge.
he was wearin welfare epics and was 71. i was 69. before i could say wtf i was at half health, death grabbed him to me but it was too late.
although he could have been a good paler, when i was in nagrand at 67 i got jumped by a 71 mage while i was fighting an elite solo and i managed to kill the mage. even better, i corpses camped the nab and at one point chased him for ages while he kept bubbling till i finally caught him and finished him off. was good fun. haha
will be interesting to play at 80 in bgs.
oh im unholy and lovin it. yeh the ghoul dies a lot but sure when your killing humanoids its happy days.
master of ghouls is good, where you get to control him like a hunters pet.
im finding unholy great for tanking too.
you lot are just another yellow HK piece of text on my screen:D:D:D:D
If he was a good player, you wouldn't even so much as had a sniff of a grab;);)
Arcane mages in T5/T6 gear with all enchants & epic gems ...... no chance 0 -
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Shame Dk's just can not hold aggro
I was running through Nexus with a DK tank (blood spec), no shield - against single targets even with me going super loopy mental on DPS, I could't generate anywhere near enough threat to pull aggro away from the DK-Tank.
Against single targets, DK tanks seem very VERY effective, just don't rely on one to tank multiple MOB's ..... they seem very very poor at managing aggro in this form of tanking.
And I am loving the grab pulls ..... they are something super special ... all of a sudden the MOB is yanked in front of the DK-tank, leaving nice amounts of time to CC any straggler MOB's, or polymorph/trap them ...... very VERY useful. I'd nearly say 5man raids should now be a Maintank, a DK off-tank/melee DPS, a DPS caster, a ranged DPS (READ: hunter) & a healer ...... I've tried this combo already, & it is really REALLY useful, even going back into 5man TBC heroics ....... the difference it makes is amazing. It does help if your 'main tank' is bad ass though LOL 0 -
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Manties im guessing you were in a group with a nab DK and based your opinion on his tanking.
I have tanked 2 instances and not one person could go over my threat, on single targets or multiple mobs. And o roll with people geard from BT/SWP
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