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Travel time Balbriggan to Beaumont Hospital

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  • 17-11-2008 4:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 17


    Hi,

    I have to drive to Beaumont Hospital on Wednesday and I have to be there for 8.30am. Can anyone give me an idea of what time I would need to leave Balbriggan at? Thanks in advance


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    With no traffic its a 25 minutes trip. The exits at Coolock or Collins ave can be hectic around then so I'd give yourself a good hour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    With normal Wednesday traffic (no rain) it will take approx 40 minutes exiting the M50 at junction 2, via the R104, Dundaniel Road, Kilbarron Road and Trim Road.

    The worst of the traffic will be from M1 junction 4 to junction 1 and M50 junction 2 along the R104.

    Don't go as far as Collins Avenue as you will only delay yourself unnecessarily.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    This is something I have thought of before.
    In an emergency are we nearer to OLOL or Beaumont?
    Like where would the ambulance bring you?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    This is something I have thought of before.
    In an emergency are we nearer to OLOL or Beaumont?
    Like where would the ambulance bring you?

    As long as you are in north county Dublin the emergency ambulance will bring you to Beaumont. Once you live over the Delvin they bring you to OLOL.
    By car its quicker to get to OLOL but outside of peak traffic its not much different.
    It used to be that OLOL was less busy but in my experience over the past 2 years it's actually busier there now (all the trauma was transfered there from Navan and dundalk over the past 2 years).


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Drogheda is by far closer, although an argument can be made that Beaumount can be reached just as quickly.

    If you call an ambulance it would depend on what sort of injury you had and what hospital was dealing with what on that particular night.

    Generally 999 calls made in North County Dublin will be dealt with by a Dublin hospital but the dispatcher may send an ambulance from Our Lady of Lourdes depending on whats going on in Dublin.

    You won't necessarily go to Beaumount or Our Lady or Lourdes. I've know of people who were brought to Blanch hospital on a 999 call from Balbriggan.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    I've know of people who were brought to Blanch hospital on a 999 call from Balbriggan.
    That shocks me !!
    The old rota system for on call has long gone but AE's regularly take themselves temporarily off call if they are excessively crowded (OLOL about a month ago was the most recent). In that case the are diverted to the closest alternative.
    All under 12's from emergency ambulances from dublin are brought to Temple street (forgot to add that earlier)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    Drogheda is by far closer, although an argument can be made that Beaumount can be reached just as quickly.

    If you call an ambulance it would depend on what sort of injury you had and what hospital was dealing with what on that particular night.

    Generally 999 calls made in North County Dublin will be dealt with by a Dublin hospital but the dispatcher may send an ambulance from Our Lady of Lourdes depending on whats going on in Dublin.

    You won't necessarily go to Beaumount or Our Lady or Lourdes. I've know of people who were brought to Blanch hospital on a 999 call from Balbriggan.

    Incorrect! All ambulance 999 calls for Dublin are dealt with by the Eastern Regional Control Centre at Tara Street Fire Station, Dublin.
    The designated Hospital for BAlbriggan is Beaumont, however if the paramedics decide that Our Ladys in Drogheda is nearer in a serious case they may redirect to there.
    An ambulance going to JCM hospital Blanchardstown would only do so if Beaumont was off call or "On protection" or if there was a prior arrangement made with that hospital


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Incorrect! All ambulance 999 calls for Dublin are dealt with by the Eastern Regional Control Centre at Tara Street Fire Station, Dublin.
    The designated Hospital for BAlbriggan is Beaumont, however if the paramedics decide that Our Ladys in Drogheda is nearer in a serious case they may redirect to there.
    An ambulance going to JCM hospital Blanchardstown would only do so if Beaumont was off call or "On protection" or if there was a prior arrangement made with that hospital
    Which part of it was incorrect?

    Are you questioning the fact that someone in Balbriggan dialed a 999 and was brought to Blanch?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,993 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    There are also regularly long queues at the lights waiting to turn right from the Oscar Traynor Road onto the Dundaniel Road.
    Keating wrote: »
    I have to be there for 8.30am
    If it's an out patients appointment for 8.30am, I wouldn't worry too much. They tend to request that you arrive around then but it doesn't really matter if you are late.

    If it's for an in-hospital day treatment it is generally advisable to be on time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,593 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    Which part of it was incorrect?

    Are you questioning the fact that someone in Balbriggan dialed a 999 and was brought to Blanch?

    This : "If you call an ambulance it would depend on what sort of injury you had and what hospital was dealing with what on that particular night. "
    All Hospitals deal with the same thing

    And This: "Generally 999 calls made in North County Dublin will be dealt with by a Dublin hospital but the dispatcher may send an ambulance from Our Lady of Lourdes depending on whats going on in Dublin.'

    As I said , the hospitals don't deal with 999 calls, and Ambulances based in Our Ladys dont go to Balbriggan.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    This : "If you call an ambulance it would depend on what sort of injury you had and what hospital was dealing with what on that particular night. "
    All Hospitals deal with the same thing
    Not true. Some are specialist and patients will be rushed to there if deemed critical.
    And This: "Generally 999 calls made in North County Dublin will be dealt with by a Dublin hospital but the dispatcher may send an ambulance from Our Lady of Lourdes depending on whats going on in Dublin.'

    As I said , the hospitals don't deal with 999 calls, and Ambulances based in Our Ladys dont go to Balbriggan.
    Christ, you think I am saying the hospital pick up the 999 calls? :rolleyes:

    With regards to Our Ladys of Lourdes ambulances going to Balbriggan your mistaken, there have been cases - as with anything there are exceptions.

    Thanks for the info anyhow.

    Anyone know how many Ambulances there are to service Dublin during any one shift?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Bluetonic wrote: »

    Anyone know how many Ambulances there are to service Dublin during any one shift?


    Trust me you don't want to know


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Trust me you don't want to know

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Keating


    Thanks all, got there in 45 minutes! But did leave Balbriggan at 7.20am just to be on the safe side!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Keating wrote: »
    Thanks all, got there in 45 minutes! But did leave Balbriggan at 7.20am just to be on the safe side!!
    Sorry for my 5 minutes out on the approximation.

    It seems that if your not 100% correct here you get shouted at :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 dub1226


    Keating wrote: »
    Thanks all, got there in 45 minutes! But did leave Balbriggan at 7.20am just to be on the safe side!!

    That was a great time to make it to Beaumont Hospital - hope it wasn't anything too serious. Google maps are a great aid for planing trips - I have one on my own website that I use all the time.
    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Trust me you don't want to know

    12 Dublin Fire Brigade ambualnces (was only 11 before swords became full time) as for hse ones it all depends on how busy they are with patient transports (inter hospital transports usually)

    As said before, balbriggan is beaumonts catchment area, you go there. Exceptions to the rule, if beaumont is "off call" (happens regulary) you go to JCM
    Under 16's go to Temple St.
    Maternity cases go the hospital they've been attending, usualy rotunda, holles st or coombe.

    Has been known for dublin ambualnces to being pt's to OLOL but its is very uncommon as A) OLOL has their own workload without taking more B) Your taking a dublin ambualnce away from dublin, so once they've brought you to drogheda they've a longer transit time back to calls in dublin, delaying response times further. Anything going to olol has to be first authorised by ambualnce control and A&E in olol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Did a bit of digging today, you usually have 5 HSE ambulances solely for 999 work.

    1-Tallaght, 1-St. James, 1-Swords, 2-Loghlinstown

    The rest are normally used for patient transfer work, but can be called apon in the event of a major emergency (can often see them put on standby for emergency landings at dublin airport)

    So on a good day, 17 for the city and county, provided they arnt tied up in A&E waiting on handover or off the run due to technical difficultys


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Fair play to you, your a mind of info. Great to know.

    Do you know under what circumstances the Fire Brigade will deal with an Ambulance 999 call? Only the other day I saw a fire brigade deal with a medical issue after being called for an elderly person, an ambulance arrive some time after. The fire men entered the house with what looked like medical equipment. Defibrillator perhaps?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    In north county Dublin we have one (999) ambulance based in Cloghran, if that is out the an alternative based usually in or around beaumont is called. Every time I've been to AE at least 2 are tied up there waiting to transfer patients from their trolleys to AE ones (the cannot leave until this is completed). I can only assume the other AE's are similar. In my experience response times for emergencies in Nth County dublin vary fro 10 minutes to 1 hour.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    Fair play to you, your a mind of info. Great to know.

    Do you know under what circumstances the Fire Brigade will deal with an Ambulance 999 call? Only the other day I saw a fire brigade deal with a medical issue after being called for an elderly person, an ambulance arrive some time after. The fire men entered the house with what looked like medical equipment. Defibrillator perhaps?
    All dublin fire brigade full time firefighters are also paramedics, they rotate shifts from the fire appliance to the ambualnce. In balbriggan and skerries the retained guys are normally emergency first responders.

    They turn out a fire appliance along with ambulances to certain calls, usually road traffic accidents (provide greater scene safety, specialist extraction equipment, the fire crew have all the personal protective equipment for working and and around crashed vehicles with the numerous risks from broken glass, jagged metal and so on, aswell as this on board they have brushes, shovels and oil absorbing granules to clean up after), cardiac arrests (they have defib and bls kit on board so can start cpr and defib quicker, fire appliance can normally get to scene quicker, it also gives extra people to jump on to the ambulance an give a dig out), spinal injuries (the more people to control pt's movement the better), falls at home (once again to help movement but also to effect and entry to the premises if necessary).
    RobFowl wrote: »
    In north county Dublin we have one (999) ambulance based in Cloghran, if that is out the an alternative based usually in or around beaumont is called. Every time I've been to AE at least 2 are tied up there waiting to transfer patients from their trolleys to AE ones (the cannot leave until this is completed). I can only assume the other AE's are similar. In my experience response times for emergencies in Nth County dublin vary fro 10 minutes to 1 hour.
    No ambulance in cloghran as far as im aware, there is two for north county dublin, one in swords fire station on the balheary rd and another in the hse base off the dual carriageway at lissenhall, just north of evostick there.

    Beaumont a&e is hit and miss, ive walked right by the door every day for the last two weeks, sometimes 4-5 emergency ambulances tied up, sometimes none, it all depends. As for response times same goes, it all depends how busy they are. If both ambulances from swords are tied up the closest is one becoming available in beaumont or should that not be the case, its finglas, then kilbarrack, then north strand and so on.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    All dublin fire brigade full time firefighters are also paramedics, they rotate shifts from the fire appliance to the ambualnce. In balbriggan and skerries the retained guys are normally emergency first responders.

    No ambulance in cloghran as far as im aware, there is two for north county dublin, one in swords fire station on the balheary rd and another in the hse base off the dual carriageway at lissenhall.
    The retained fire brigade are just subperb. They provive a service second to none.
    That one off the dual carrageway was the one i was talking about (blush) thought that was called the cloghran base.
    Always thought the fire brigade one came form further afeaild, thanks for the info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    No probs. Yea the retained lads do a super job and to hold down another job too and drop everything when the pager goes off, takes some commitment. Atleast the fulltimers have set shifts.

    There has only been an ambualnce in swords fire station for a year and a half, since the station became full time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Nice thread, some great info from you guys , +1


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