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Ronaldo "I am the 1st, 2nd, 3rd best in world
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Deleted User wrote: »It wasn't "backed up" by the English press, it was reported after they read the same article. I'm no great fan of Ronaldo's personality or attitude but get a little perspective.
Try this.....stop arguing with everyone and insisting on getting the last word and then watch the thread fade and die without having to be locked.
Look I can link you half a dozen British media organisations who ran the story. Your point about backing it up is fruitless, everyday practically all papers run the same stories, do they back them up or are they covering what has been reported elsewhere by others and passing it on ? The comments were made in jest. If you look at the first post of this thread you will see that, that was wrote.
If members of the media share my view and write about it why can I not come on here and comment on it ? What difference is it to you coming on and disputing it ? We live in a democracy and this forum is all about sharing one's view and opinions, you want me to remaind silent because you do not agree with mine. What chilidish behaviour. Are you the Gestapo in hiding ? If you dont like my view then their is this button called ignore, try hitting it and end of.
This article from yesterdays Independent somes up exactly what I and millions of others think is wrong with Ronaldo.
James Lawton: Messi's maturity the true measure against which Ronaldo falls short
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So all glory, then, to Cristiano Ronaldo, widely expected to be crowned Europe's best player and assigned by his manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, to the company of Pele and Johan Cruyff? Sorry, no can do in this quarter. The task is made impossible for two reasons.
One is that Ronaldo is displaying the gravitas and self-awareness not of great men like Pele and Cruyff, who once beat England at Wembley while hardly crossing the halfway line, but a drastically undertrained pup. The other is that, alongside Ronaldo's too often grisly parody of real star quality, another kind of show is going on, one that reminds you that football when enhanced by individual brilliance at its best leaves every other team game for dead.
Lionel Messi is the centrepiece of this show. At the weekend he lit up the sky over Seville where the home team boast one of the most obdurate defences in Europe. Not only did he score two goals in a 3-0 win, he brought enchantment with almost every touch of the ball.
He pretty much did that at Old Trafford last season when he delivered a masterclass on possession of the ball, one that with some passable support from his Barcelona team-mates might well have shattered United's march to their second Champions League title. No doubt the overall weight of Ronaldo's contribution to United's massive success last season made this week's award something of a formality, but the point is that right now football has a supreme and beautiful exponent, and it is not the superstar who, whatever you think of his eventual dismissal last Sunday, behaved in a way that made a travesty of Ferguson's ultimate praise.
After his brutal tackle on Shaun Wright-Phillips Ronaldo displayed contempt for referee Howard Webb that came out of the top drawer of petulance. He announced that, as far as he was concerned, he could make his own rules and give himself the benefit of the most outrageous levels of doubt.
Distaste for Ronaldo's style and conduct can only be deepened by his manager's insistence that he is some kind of football martyr, a victim of forces combining disrespect and envy. The real martyr at the Eastlands stadium was not the superb physical specimen Ronaldo but someone who might double up as a charm on a bracelet, the diminutive Wright-Phillips. If a United player had been so relentlessly targeted Ferguson might well have called for intervention by the United Nations.
Messi is small too – and inevitably the object of the most ruthless attention. Remember when he was sickeningly levelled at Stamford Bridge a few seasons ago and Jose Mourinho alleged that he took a dive? Messi didn't dive, he prosecuted his game with courage and wonderful flair.
Now, in the explosion of Pep Guardiola's Barça team, who are rivalling Arsenal as football's most idealistic proponents of a beautiful game, Messi moves from one exquisite performance to another. Yes, it is right that Messi has to nail down real achievement – Barcelona have to be involved in the Champions League's shake-up and under the new regime of Diego Maradona he has to shine for Argentina now that he has the chance that was so shockingly denied him by the nation's head coach Jose Pekerman in the World Cup two years ago.
The instinct here, though, is that if Messi does get the kind of stage provided for Ronaldo by United and Portugal he will both conquer it and display a hugely superior reaction to his triumphs.
This, admittedly, is only a guess. The confirmation of ambitions and yearnings doesn't always have a hugely warming effect on the personalities of those who make them come good.
At the moment, Ronaldo is arguably the most wretched example of this process. His body language remains, mostly, sour. Only this season has he got round to celebrating any success achieved by his team-mates. He is happy to dish out punishment but writhes and moans when he is on the receiving end.
In the wake of his magnificent goal – and penalty miss – in the Champions League final in Moscow in the spring, he put on a post-game performance of stunning surliness. No, he couldn't promise to fulfil his contract to United, no more than he was ready to discuss his emotions when he missed the spot-kick that might have denied United the prize that he and his team-mates had pursued with such ferocious effort. "I don't make promises," he said, "not even to my mum."
Earlier, when he received the Footballer of the Year award he managed not to make a single mention of his team-mates, his manager, or his club.
He is, all in all, a magnificently equipped footballer starved at times of even a modicum of grace.
That he is grouped with such as Pele and Cruyff by a man of Ferguson's weight and achievement says much, not least the force of the manager's belief that he has the power to remake football history. In many ways he has, but on the matter of Ronaldo he still has a huge burden in making his case. Meantime, some of us will be content with the prospect of a player of breathtaking talent, and the kind of agreeable nature of all those great performers who have learnt to live comfortably and gracefully with their success. In this respect, Lionel Messi is the man.0 - [URL="javascript:launchPopup('http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-messis-maturity-the-true-measure-against-which-ronaldo-falls-short-1044189.html?action=Popup&gallery=no','', 520, 513, true, true, true, false);"]
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Looks like he spat at his feet and not actually on the player, no reaction from the player either!0 -
Nope, I guess they're one and the same
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Different opinions so! Maybe they should show it from different angles, like they would a goal opportunity, I'd need to see a different angle to be certain, but I think it hits the ground at his feet...to be honest I don't really care either way though! As for the player turning away, he would have seen Messi getting ready to spit before he turned his head!
Anyway, I don't really care and I don't think you an say for sure one way or the other!
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Looks like he spat at his feet and not actually on the player, no reaction from the player either!
I've heard it all now. Anti-Ronaldo posters defending footballers spitting at the opposition.
I lost a ton of respect for Messi when I first saw that, just like I'd do the same for Ronaldo if he did the same.
Of course, if Ronaldo did do such a thing, there'd be a full scale witchhunt across Britain.
But no, the great and wonderful Lionel Andrés Messi is so undeniably gifted he can get away with spitting at a player without a word of it mentioned in the press, and without the anti-Ronaldo/pro-Messi camp acknowledging the fact that he was in the wrong.0 -
I've heard it all now. Anti-Ronaldo posters defending footballers spitting at the opposition.
I lost a ton of respect for Messi when I first saw that, just like I'd do the same for Ronaldo if he did the same.
Of course, if Ronaldo did do such a thing, there'd be a full scale witchhunt across Britain.
But no, the great and wonderful Lionel Andrés Messi is so undeniably gifted he can get away with spitting at a player without a word of it mentioned in the press, and without the anti-Ronaldo/pro-Messi camp acknowledging the fact that he was in the wrong.
As I've said since, I don't care either way what actually transpired! I'm not anti-Ronaldo in the sense I'll admit when he's good, but I do hate the ***t!0 -
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mayordenis wrote: »The same way if my brother spat on someone and if someone I hated spat on someone,
I would find a way to exonerate my brother and have the guy I hated hung.
You must really love your brother. If I found out my brother spat on someone I'd ****ing smack him 0 -
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mayordenis wrote: »So i'd give him the benefit of the doubt.
And believe he was just aiming for the other guys feet? 0 -
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