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Drogba 3 game ban. Should it've been longer??

  • 18-11-2008 5:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,129 ✭✭✭✭


    Didier Drogba has been handed a three-match ban by the FA for violent conduct following the coin-throwing incident against Burnley.

    Skysports

    Should it have been a longer ban considering it there was a hand gesture and he also threw the coin back into the crowd?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭oobydooby


    Seems fair enough. That's what Carragher got before. If he thinks it's unfair he might get into a strop though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    no. he admitted he was an idiot for doing it and owned up immediatly. he didnt make a fuss of it and just said he was wrong. 3 games is a long enough ban for such an incident. you can guarantee that big phil will also not be best pleased with drogba about it either and will also come down on him in a private way


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Think 3 games is fair. FA in reasonable decision shock !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    3 game ban? Cantona got much longer for drop kicking a supporter.

    Is not what Drogba/Carragher did also assault too?!

    We've seen examples of referees being cut by coins. If a supporter throws anything they get banned for life.

    If drogba took some kid's eye out with that, would 3 games be enough?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Carragher set the precedent. Drogba admitted the charge. He shouldn't be punished any more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,100 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Jazzy wrote: »
    big phil will also not be best pleased with drogba about it either and will also come down on him in a private way

    sounds erotic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Not at all, that fan will be banned for life, so should Drogba.

    Really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    In recession time Drogba should have been awarded a prize for giving back £ to the guy. And obviously, he should have been jailed for theft hadn't he done so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,129 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Carragher set the precedent. Drogba admitted the charge. He shouldn't be punished any more.
    This might prove that the punishment Carragher received wasn't long enough to act as a genuine deterrent and this was possibly an excellent opportunity to make a statement to players and fans alike that the FA does not condone such behaviour in a time when it is becoming increasingly apparent. Coming down hard in this incident might have shown some seriousness, rather than the slap on the wrist, which is basically what a three match ban is.

    IMO a 5 match ban would be more appropriate for the potential seriousness of this incident. As already stated he could've injured someone in the crowd by his actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,570 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Loco wrote: »

    If drogba took some kid's eye out with that, would 3 games be enough?!

    If Drogba took some kids eye out it would been fantastically unlucky.
    And there would have been a bigger media circus so he probably would have got longer.

    But he didn't so 3 games is perfectly reasonable

    Anyway he shouldnt get back into the team the way The Elk is playing...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,129 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Frisbee wrote: »
    If Drogba took some kids eye out it would been fantastically unlucky.
    And there would have been a bigger media circus so he probably would have got longer.

    But he didn't so 3 games is perfectly reasonable

    Anyway he shouldnt get back into the team the way The Elk is playing...
    That logic is ridiculous. Its ok that he tried but he didn't succeed so lets ignore it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    the punishment is just - but the "fan"/idiot who initiated the whole thing will not be found ,as he was hiding behind masses of other fans - thats what irked me .
    what if Drogba's eye was knocked out ? remember the ref at the Villa game , idiots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    That logic is ridiculous. Its ok that he tried but he didn't succeed so lets ignore it!

    how can you say "that logic is ridiculous" and then say he tried to take out a kids eye with the coin?

    of course he didnt, he just chucked it back into the crowd as he was angry someone threw it at him.

    silly thing of him to do, but the three games is fair. he wasn't trying to pop anyones eye out, no more than players kicking balls into crowds in anger are trying to snap someones neck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    3 games i fair enough. People are right to say that he shouldn't have snapped, but the dimwit that threw the coin deserves a home ground ban as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭SectionF


    It's got nothing to do with whoever threw the coin first. He (she?) and Drogba might as well be on different planets.
    Regulators going soft on big-money clubs/players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    SectionF wrote: »
    It's got nothing to do with whoever threw the coin first. He (she?) and Drogba might as well be on different planets.
    Regulators going soft on big-money clubs/players.

    ???
    Fact is they both could have lost an eye , regardless of how much money they make , for all we know the guy who initiated the whole thing could have been a millionaire too . Should all professional players be subject to abuse , just cause they are professionals , and well paid ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    SectionF wrote: »
    It's got nothing to do with whoever threw the coin first. He (she?) and Drogba might as well be on different planets.
    Regulators going soft on big-money clubs/players.

    I think the players are ponces as much as anybody, but I hate it when fans step outside the normal (enjoyable) abuse zone, do something OTT, and when the player reacts, go whinging to the authorities. Abuse the players by all means, but throwing stuff at them is stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    That logic is ridiculous. Its ok that he tried but he didn't succeed so lets ignore it!

    Perfect logic. I mean really, do they give the Nobel prize for attempted chemistry? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    thebaz wrote: »
    ???
    Fact is they both could have lost an eye , regardless of how much money they make , for all we know the guy who initiated the whole thing could have been a millionaire too . Should all professional players be subject to abuse , just cause they are professionals , and well paid ?

    what are you on about? your going way off point. where did wealth come into this? (no coin jokes required)

    the fact is, he threw a coin into the crowd. the chances of him hitting someone are pretty high. he surely knew this at the time. you think he just wanted to give it back or something?! he wanted to hurt someone.

    if you threw a coin at someone in the street, that would be assault no?

    i think this punishment is a travesty! i hope the police can offer something better.

    as i said before, cantona was suspended for much longer for his assault on a fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,716 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    No doubt Captain Hero Terry had a word with the FA again.
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    of course he didnt, he just chucked it back into the crowd as he was angry someone threw it at him.

    He didn't "chuck" it back in, he maliciously fired it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    I think he should have gotten more simply because it's a worse offense than just being sent off.
    If a player gets two yellow cards in a game they get a game ban. If they get a straight red they get a game ban with the possibility of a second game ban depending on the offense.
    I think gesturing to the crowd and throwing a missile is quite a bit worse than, for example, a clumsy challenge and celebrating a goal too enthusiastically which could get you sent off in a game and a one match ban. Is there really only the difference of a two match ban in these two behaviours?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Jazzy wrote: »
    big phil will also not be best pleased with drogba about it either and will also come down on him in a private way

    Oooh missus! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Should it have been a longer ban considering it there was a hand gesture and he also threw the coin back into the crowd?

    The correct punishment has been applied.

    You cannot compare it with the cantona incident where a fan was singled out and assaulted, as some have.
    Nobody was targetted, and the footballer was actually attacked in this instance. It's not always about the players club colours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,716 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Nobody was targetted,

    Yeah twas discriminate which IMO is worse.
    nipplenuts wrote: »
    and the footballer was actually attacked in this instance.

    So was Cantona allbeit verbally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    The correct punishment has been applied.

    Nobody was targetted, and the footballer was actually attacked in this instance. It's not always about the players club colours.

    No, it hasn't.

    Nobody was targetted? He fired a coin into a crowd of people...

    So your logic dictates that if Cantona closed his eyes and just randomly jumped into the crowd and drop kicked them, he should have received a lesser punishment?

    Also, do you not realise the damage a coin can do to someone? Gianluca Paparesta was hit on the side of his face and suffered a cut. I remember seeing this on tv and blood was pouring down his face. Fair enough, its not life threatening or equivalent to a drop kick, but it's still assault..

    He violently gestured with his fingers before throwing the coin too. What sort of behaviour is that?

    The footballer being hit in the first instance is a seperate issue, and is up to the police/stadium officials to catch this person, so stop going on about it. We are talking about Drogba's actions against innocent fans...

    Also, who said anything about the player's club colours. If Gerrard, Ronaldo or Fabregas did this, we would be arguing the exact same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Loco wrote: »


    Also, who said anything about the player's club colours. If Gerrard, Ronaldo or Fabregas did this, we would be arguing the exact same.


    Boggles did.
    Boggles wrote: »
    No doubt Captain Hero Terry had a word with the FA again.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    Random is better than nothing….even if you hit a person who didn’t throw you the coin, he/she would have probably thrown you a coin with the intention to hurt you anyway had they been less greedy and sooner or later in their life with do something bad, so they deserve to get some punishment in advance anyway :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yeah twas discriminate which IMO is worse.



    So was Cantona allbeit verbally.

    I presume you mean indiscriminate, but I am not making a case for Drogba. What he did was wrong. It's just that it's not right to compare his punishment with what cantona got.

    The best you can say about drogba is it was like for like. Can't say that about cantona.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    The best you can say about drogba is it was like for like. Can't say that about cantona.

    Both were assault.

    And how is this like for like?!

    Stop bringing the fan into this. Drogba maliciously fired a coin into a crowd of people. Are you failing to see what damage this could have caused? I'm suprised they didn't rush the pitch after his actions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Loco wrote: »
    Both were assault.

    And how is this like for like?!

    Stop bringing the fan into this. Drogba maliciously fired a coin into a crowd of people. Are you failing to see what damage this could have caused? I'm suprised they didn't rush the pitch after his actions.

    Man Utd fan much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Man Utd fan much?

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭podge018


    sad to see people clambering to punish somebody further for their actions when it's already been given out. Bet you sat at the top of the class ratting on your class-mates aswell. Get on with your lives, don't let it bother you, seriously, Drogba doesn't care what you think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    podge018 wrote: »
    Drogba doesn't care what you think.

    That hurts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Loco


    podge018 wrote: »
    sad to see people clambering to punish somebody further for their actions when it's already been given out. Bet you sat at the top of the class ratting on your class-mates aswell. Get on with your lives, don't let it bother you, seriously, Drogba doesn't care what you think.

    Educated post there. Maybe you should have considered sitting at the top of the class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,570 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Lads he's got a 3 match ban.
    Same as Carragher did, less even, considering Carra's was for the red. So stop complaining.
    3 matches will annoy him enough considering how long he's been out for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭podge018


    Loco wrote: »
    Educated post there. Maybe you should have considered sitting at the top of the class.

    You were obviously being sarcastic, so may I ask what is uneducated about it?


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