Samsung NC10 Netbook (Blue) - €319.93 ** MISPRICE** [TheHut / SendIt]

Basq

Posted this in the Samsung NC10 thread over in the Laptops forum but thought it deserved it own thread.



These are available for about €370 at both Dabs and Elara.. but exclude shipping.

You can get them from TheHut and SendIt for about €350 (make sure to pay in sterling - think both allow you to - and the TheHut charge 99p for shipping).

One of the best Netbooks currently available on the market - with an 160GB HDD and a 6 cell battery as standard.

Audio Features:
* High Definition Audio

Case Colour:
* Blue

Chipset:
* Intel 945GSE ? ICH7M

CPU Bus Speed:
* 533MHz

CPU Family:
* Intel Atom

CPU Speed:
* 1.6GHz

Depth:
* 18.55cm

Height:
* 3.03cm

In The Box:
* NC10 Netbook, Slip Case

Keyboard:
* 84 Key with Silver Nano technology (Anti-Bacterial Keyboard)

L2 Cache:
* 512KB

Memory Bus Speed:
* 667MHz

Memory Size:
* 1024MB

Memory Slot:
* 1 x SO-DIMM

Memory Type:
* DDR2

Network Card Data Link Protocol:
* Ethernet

Network Card Speeds:
* 10/100Mbps

Operating System:
* Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

Pointing Device:
* Touchpad

RJ-45 Ports:
* 1 x RJ-45

Screen Size:
* 10ins

Security:
* BIOS Boot Up Password / HDD Password

Software Included:
* Samsung Magic Doctor / Samsung Update Plus / Easy Display Manger Easy Battery Manager/ Easy Network Manager / Easy Speed Up Manager Adobe Acrobat Reader

Speakers:
* 2 x 1W Integrated Speakers

Warranty:
* 1 year international collect and return warranty

Weight:
* 1.33kg

Width:

* 26.1cm

USB Ports:
* 3 x USB 2.0

Screen Type:
* LCD

Screen Resolution:
* 1024 x 600 Pixels

Battery:
* Lithium-Ion

Secure Digital:
* Supported: Secure Digital, SDHC

Hard Disk Size:
* 160GB

Total Hard Disk Size:
* 160GB

RF Network Standard:
* IEEE 802.11

Number of Hard Disks:
* 1

Security Locking Mechanics:
* Kensington Lock

RF Standard:
* b/g

Video Card:
* Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950

MultiMedia Card:
* Supported

Microphone In Port:
* 1 x Microphone In Jack

VGA Port:
* 1 x VGA

Screen Res. Type:
* WSVGA

Processor Number:
* N270

Effective Pixel Resolution:
* 1.3Megapixels

Wireless System:
* Atheros

Webcam:
* Integrated

Hard Disk Interface:
* Serial ATA

Headphone Ports:
* 1 x Headphone Port

Bluetooth:
* Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR

Power Supply:
* 60W AC Power Adaptor

Primary Battery Cells:
* 6 Cells

Removable Flash Memory Media:
* 3-in-1 Card Reader

DC Power:
* 1 x DC in

Number of Card Slots:
* 1

Network Interface Options:

* Integrated

blobert

Thanks for that, am looking for it in black, they only seem to have blue, though I believe this is the most popular colour so would be good news for most.

Am getting this for Christmas, the only question is whether or not to wait a bit longer in the hope of Sterling falling further...

Basq

Yep.. would like it in black also.. but could live with blue.

As far as I know, they're fairly rare in black. Elara have it every so often in black and normally sell out quickly.. they got it in stock in the last hour or so on the site though: http://www.elara.ie/products/notebooks.asp?srch=nc10&anyallexact=all&available=checked&manu=&mancode=&searchBtn=Search&layershowhide=

blobert

Was going to get the black one from Dabs, they seem to have it for about €370 delivered. Is the black one worth paying an extra €20, perhaps not:)

Have had nothing but positive shopping experiences with both Sendit and Dabs so would be happy to buy from either of them.

Maybe Sendit will get the black one in.

rc28

Why does everyone forget dabs.ie, they have the black in stock for 359 excluding delivery while elara have it for 369 excluding delivery. Is elara more of an Irish owned company or something as I see no other reason to explain the loyalty.

Basq

Both TheHut and SendIt occassionally issue some discount codes too.. SendIt apparently had one earlier today but doesn't work now.

rc28 wrote:

Why does everyone forget dabs.ie, they have the black in stock for 359 excluding delivery while elara have it for 369 excluding delivery.

I didn't forget Dabs - I mentioned them in the original post!

Do-more

Currys in the North have the black one for £299.99 if you were heading up that way (won't deliver here) ring & reserve available on the website.

No sign of it on the website, but a mate was in Liverpool at the week-end and said they had the Acer One A150 in store for £219.

rc28

basquille wrote: »

I didn't forget Dabs - I mentioned them in the original post!

Apologies, I was more having a general rant because in the other thread people appear to be more inclined to pay extra to elara than to dabs. Also, in your original post you said it was available for around 370 from both elara and dabs but dabs is e10 cheaper than that...sorry, I'm being ridiculously pedantic!

Rsaeire

rc28 wrote: »

Why does everyone forget dabs.ie, they have the black in stock for 359 excluding delivery while elara have it for 369 excluding delivery. Is elara more of an Irish owned company or something as I see no other reason to explain the loyalty.

Well, I can collect it from Elara today, as opposed to waiting for delivery and possibly having to collect it from my local sorting office, so that's why I'm buying it from them.

rc28

Rsaeire wrote: »

Well, I can collect it from Elara today, as opposed to waiting for delivery and possibly having to collect it from my local sorting office, so that's why I'm buying it from them.

Ok but for people who do not live in Dublin it would make more sense to have it delivered to your door for almost the same price elara quote excluding delivery.

Rsaeire

rc28 wrote: »

Ok but for people who do not live in Dublin it would make more sense to have it delivered to your door for almost the same price elara quote excluding delivery.

Yes, on that I would agree.

carbsy

Dabs are English (dabs.ie is just an Irish frontend iirc) and Elara are Irish.Would that explain the loyalty?

Elara: Kin

Wow... that really does hurt.

carbsy

Kin Mak wrote: »

Wow... that really does hurt.

lol why?

I was explaining why people favoured Elara over Dabs!!

carbsy

btw, the black DC10 is in stock (50+) at ebuyer.com -> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150183 , works out ~ €372 inc. delivery so not great value but if you're after the black model....

Elara: Kin

carbsy wrote: »

lol why?

I was explaining why people favoured Elara over Dabs!!

Not you mate...

p.s. we have stock of the black.

http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=ELA1617255&productID=

carbsy

Kin Mak wrote: »

Not you mate...

rc28

Kin Mak wrote: »

Wow... that really does hurt.

Care to elaborate? Now that someone has explained the reason behind the loyalty I understand it but if both websites have the same source why is Elara charging more?

Elara: Kin

rc28 wrote: »

Care to elaborate? Now that someone has explained the reason behind the loyalty I understand it but if both websites have the same source why is Elara charging more?

Do you really compare the service Dabs offers their customers to what Elara does? Do you really think a company that turned over 150 million Sterling in 2006 and I expect a lot more now will buy stock at the same price that Elara does? I can absolutely guarantee you that Dabs makes more off a NC10 than we do.

There is a customer right now running late collecting his NC10, I won't be leaving until he arrives to collect it. Try get Dabs to remotely do anything like that.

Anyway there are a lot of reason to buy in different places, I am just glad we have customers who believe in us.

rc28

Kin Mak wrote: »

Do you really compare the service Dabs offers their customers to what Elara does? Do you really think a company that turned over 150 million Sterling in 2006 and I expect a lot more now will buy stock at the same price that Elara does? I can absolutely guarantee you that Dabs makes more off a NC10 than we do.

There is a customer right now running late collecting his NC10, I won't be leaving until he arrives to collect it. Try get Dabs to remotely do anything like that.

Anyway there are a lot of reason to buy in different places, I am just glad we have customers who believe in us.

That is fair enough and well done for providing good customer service. As I said, I understand the loyalty now and you obviously have many happy customers. The higher price is clearly justified. I was originally apprehensive simply because I am new to these forums(latops and bargain alerts) and I just wasn't aware of your good reputation.

Elara: Kin

rc28 wrote: »

That is fair enough and well done for providing good customer service. As I said, I understand the loyalty now and you obviously have many happy customers. The higher price is clearly justified. I was originally apprehensive simply because I am new to these forums(latops and bargain alerts) and I just wasn't aware of your good reputation.

Mate I was not really having a go... sorry if it sounded like I was.

rc28

Kin Mak wrote: »

Mate I was not really having a go... sorry if it sounded like I was.

Well neither was I but for some reason you said, whether sarcastically or not; "wow..that really does hurt" even though I really said nothing hurtful about Elara. Anyway, this is off topic and it's my fault, sorry mods.

Galego

Believe or not I am that customer who Kin refered on his previous email. Kin was my star of the day.........trust me! I got first stuck on the M50 and then lost around the Nass Road. Kin kindly waited and phoned me to give me directions. This guy finishes work at 6 and because of me he had to stay an extra half and hour. I mean what can I say?

I ordered once from laptopsdirect.ie and emailed them few times and they never bothered to answer me. Then I emailed them to cancel my order. Nothing, no answer. I phoned them and they informed me that order had been cancelled!!!! No cancelation email or anything!!

Now......which company do you think I will be buying from in the future?

Elara has got my respect and loyalty from now on, that is for sure. Trust me that I will recommend them to anyone out there who is looking for EXCELLENT value and customer service.

PS, I am writing all this on my new NC10. Thanks again Kin. You are a star man.

Basq

Yikes.. TheHut has increased the price of the NC10 to £306...!

quarryman

Another satisfied Elara customer here. Ordered at 1pm on Friday, picked up from Parkwest 2 hours later. Typing on it now.

Although they occasionally have to charge a bit more than the online sellers the convenience of collecting and peace of mind that it is easy to return if needed is worth it.

Basq

I ordered mine for £264 (or €312) off TheHut last week anyways.

IrishIrish

Hey, would this be reasonable for doing college work? Like should it run microsoft office 2007 ok or would i have to go for a more suited laptop?

Cheers.

Ricky91t

I would of went to Elara but they had no stock listed on the site so i went to Dabs,Maybe €10 in the price,but i would of rathered elara as their is a poster on here from them which helps,

Same the money was burning a hole in my pocket and i couldn't wait for more stock

Galego

IrishIrish wrote: »

Hey, would this be reasonable for doing college work? Like should it run microsoft office 2007 ok or would i have to go for a more suited laptop?

Cheers.

I run the whole Office 2007 with no problems. You should not have any problems to run any software in this little machine.

Just upgrade your ram to 2Gb for an extra 20-30 EUR. It is well worthy.

quarryman

Galego wrote: »

Just upgrade your ram to 2Gb for an extra 20-30 EUR. It is well worthy.

Where's the best place to pick up RAM at this price?

Also, anyone considered putting Vista on it. A much better OS IMO.

Burgo

quarryman wrote: »

Also, anyone considered putting Vista on it. A much better OS IMO.

aside from my,distaste for vista it really wasnt designed with netbooks in mind,i installed premium for my friend on his asus 1000, and it just ran woefully,application response time was painfully slow at times,and booting up took some time aswell,I'd say basic would be the only viable option to run currently.

Galego

quarryman wrote: »

Where's the best place to pick up RAM at this price?

Also, anyone considered putting Vista on it. A much better OS IMO.

On Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2GB-Kingston-DDR2-800-2-G-GB-PC2-6400-DDR-PC-DIMM-RAM_W0QQitemZ180306044995QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN?hash=item180306044995&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Get the kingston. It seems to work quite well in these little machine.

Not a big fan of the Vista but if you are going to go on that way you wil; need that 2 GB Ram. Vista is a lot more demaning that XP with the memory.

Basq

Wonder does upgrading the RAM void the warranty? Cos it doesn't when you do it on any of the Asus EEE-PC, but does on the Advent 4211.

EDIT: Looks like it!

Can I Upgrade The Netbook Components (RAM, HDD, And ODD)?

Upgrading any of the netbooks components (RAM, HDD, or ODD) will void its warranty. Also, Samsung authorized service centers will not upgrade the components. If a retailer upgrades the netbook for you, it will void the warranty.

Galego

Could you just not put back the original RAM if you need to send it back to Samsung?

I know that there is a way to know that the RAM has been upgraded but would Samsung really bother to check it?

Basq

Galego wrote: »

Could you just not put back the original RAM if you need to send it back to Samsung?

I know that there is a way to know that the RAM has been upgraded but would Samsung really bother to check it?

No clue...

But would there be a "Void If Removed" sticker over the opening on the NC10 that when broken (i.e opened), it voids your warranty.. (obviously! )

Galego

basquille wrote: »

No clue...

But would there be a "Void If Removed" sticker over the opening on the NC10 that when broken (i.e opened), it voids your warranty.. (obviously! )

There is no sticker or soever to open the netbook.

I got this from Laptopmag.com. It talks about the MSI but same applies to the NC10.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/msi-upgrading-wind-ram-voids-warranty

"Without a “void if removed” sticker, it’s unclear how MSI will be able to enforce its warranty policy. Users who have upgraded their RAM and later need warranty service may remove the additional DIMM before sending their systems for repair."

So I'd say go and upgrade yours. For those 20-30 EUR worths the try.

quarryman

Yeah, doesn't look there is a sticker covering it. I might give it a try.

Also they mark it clearly "Memory" and a standard philips screw....

Basq

Sound so.

Will buy some RAM for it now. Cheers Galego.

Heisenberg.

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AlmightyCushion

The Scientist wrote: »

Is it easy to upgrade RAM yourself?

Great little laptop though, i think i'll go for this.
A little saddened that there's no DVD drive though.

You can get mains powered external ones for about €40.

eVeNtInE

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Basq

The Scientist wrote: »

Is it easy to upgrade RAM yourself?

Yeah, it's pretty easy to be honest.

Nice set of instructions here (and a video) to change RAM for the NC10: http://www.laptopmag.com/advice/how-to/nc10-ram.aspx

EDIT: Beaten to it by eVeNtInE.

PS - not too bothered about a optical drive.. especially when you can do anything with an ISO and / or a USB key nowadays.

EDIT 2: Anyone have any idea on Samsung's dead pixel tolerance policy? Tried a search there but can't find anything. It's the one fear I have of buying anything LCD related online.

eVeNtInE

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Basq

Cheers for that eVeNtInE.

Probably being far too cautious considering it hasn't even shipped yet!

How times change though.. from 2005!

redfan

no optical drive?

Galego

redfan wrote: »

no optical drive?

No optical drive.

I mean it is a budget for under 400EUR which weighs 1.35 Kg and has a 10.2" screen.

I'd find quite amazing how in the earth they could fit an optical drive in ANY netbook.

If you want something with an optical drive then you will have to move to 12" laptops, anything bigger than 10.2" is NOT a netbook.

heebusjeebus

redfan wrote: »

no optical drive?

Netbooks dont do integrated optical drives. Its prob the first thing to go when cutting down the form factor.
Netbooks are seen as a second (or 3rd) computer after your home desktop or your work laptop. There are many ways to get by without the need for the dvd drive. If you cant do without one then the external drive is the way to go. If you think you will be needing the external drive more than not needing it then a netbook aint for you. Get a cheap dell laptop instead.

Basq

I can't recall the last time I used a CD / DVD to be perfectly honest (bar re-installing an OS)..

Like I said, these days everything worthwhile I have on CD is backed up as an ISO. CD's / DVD's still scratch and degrade far too easily.

Use an ISO and CD / DVD Emulation software (e.g DaemonTools / Alcohol 120) and you're set!

Amalgam

Dead pixel tolerances and you..

basquille, this post: http://forum.novatech.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=155

ISO 13406-2 - I think the above covers consumer law for the UK, would be similar here.. I see a lot of places fob customers off with a 'return to manufacturer'. I have no idea if the ISO allows for instant on the spot replacement.

Elara use the above ISO as a faulty benchmark.

http://www.elara.ie/shop/RI5.asp

quarryman

Slightly off-topic but its a while since i seen a dead pixel on a laptop. I've had them on Ipods and DSs but I bought a laptop earlier in the year that was fine. And my NC10 seems perfect too.

Basq

Cheers for the link Amalgam.

Haven't got a dead pixel in a laptop in a while either quarryman. From memory, I own a MacBook, HP Pavilion, a DS, an iPod, a Creative Zen and a full 1080P LCD TV. All clean except there's one single dead pixel on my TV near the bottom but of course I didn't notice it until a few months after I bought it.. I mean it's 1 pixel among 1920 x 1080 display.. you wouldn't notice unless you had your nose pressed up against the screen!