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Colombia wants three republicans back in jail
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Fratton Fred wrote: »Surely Ireland is expected to honour an interpol arrest warrant?
Give a reason why it should? I'm sure there's plenty of other cases not only these men.Fratton Fred wrote: »There may only be circumstantial evidence in their case, but there is a hell of a lot of it. Why were they there under false passports,
You were told already for a sex holiday they left their passports at home so their partners wouldn't find out
Fratton Fred wrote: »why did they illegally abscond from the country.
I doubt facing maybe 20 years in jail would have anything to do with it.0 -
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so we should ignore Interpol, or only use it when it suits us?Allah Hu Akbar wrote: »Give a reason why it should? I'm sure there's plenty of other cases not only these men.
which, tbh, is the most believeable reason I have heard so far:DAllah Hu Akbar wrote: »You were told already for a sex holiday they left their passports at home so their partners wouldn't find out
and Sinn Fein councillors are allowed to decide the lesser of two evils? there have been a considerable number of car bombs planted by the FARC, that too makes them terrorists in my bookFrankie Lee wrote: »I think you'll find that the main Terrorists in Columbia work for the state.Looks like some posters here, would still like to have the Birmingham 6 the Maguires and others that were jailed by dubious courts, sent back to jail just to suit there anti Republican prejudices.
that is a completely different set of circumstances, but on the subject and seeing as Sinn Fein and the IRA has an unending search for justice, maybe they could have handed over the real bombers, that would have got them out of prison a lot quicker.0 -
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From :http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/justice/arrests/extradition_to_and_from_Ireland
In general, extradition is only possible if there is an extradition agreement between the two countries in question.
This means that Ireland must have an agreement with the other country before someone can be extradited to or from Ireland.
OK, so ireland has rules over and above the general extradition agreements. its unusual because for terrorist offences there doesn't usually need to be an extradition treaty in place. Maybe that is why Ireland has got so much grief over the whole thingProbably took there cue from your fellow country men, re Mark Thatcher the son of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher in connection with a failed plot to overthrow Equatorial Guinea's president, couldn't have an important guy like him in court now could we, but those Irish boys well doesn't matter about their rights.
what has that got to do with anything
Why? I think they handled it spot on to be honest, they don't have to justify themselves to the likes of Colombia.
To be honest I feel this debate has run its course.
OK, maybe it has run its course, so let me sum up.
Three members of SF/IRA go to Columbia under false passports. They spend several weeks the drug producing capital of the world with an outlawed rebel organisation. An activity which is linked by US congress to ongoing IRA involvement with international terrorism.
They are arrested and SF wash their hands of them saying that they are no longer party members, although it turns out later that they are (Apologies, I thought one was a councillor, my bad I should have realised one was actually SF's official representative in Cuba).
Aforementioned SF/IRA members claim they were "Monitoring the Peace process" but for whom no one knows, because they don't belong to a political party
They are convicted of training rebel terrorists (using dubious evidence) and travelling under false passports. They decide to ignore the convictions and leave the country returning to Ireland where, although not members of SF, the SF leader treats them like heros.
So, we have three convicted terrorists and members of an organisation linked to organised crime and drug dealing, who travel illegally to the drug producing capital of the world, returning back to Ireland and we all wonder why it is that Ireland has such a big drugs problem and witnesses involved in gangland criminal cases are being intimidated by the use of pipe bombs. Go figure.
I'm not worried about justifying their actions to the columbian government, I am more worried about the fact that these guys are walking around like republican heros in a country where I am bringing up a family. Why is it the entire country thinks these guys are as guilty of trading bomb making expertise for drugs or money except SF supporters?
Maybe if someone knows otherwise they could shed some light on the matter, which, incidentally, has nothing to do with Guildford, Equitorial guinnea or the death of Aiden McAnespie.0 -
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Fratton Fred wrote: »OK, so ireland has rules over and above the general extradition agreements. its unusual because for terrorist offences there doesn't usually need to be an extradition treaty in place. Maybe that is why Ireland has got so much grief over the whole thing
what has that got to do with anything
OK, maybe it has run its course, so let me sum up.
Three members of SF/IRA go to Columbia under false passports. They spend several weeks the drug producing capital of the world with an outlawed rebel organisation. An activity which is linked by US congress to ongoing IRA involvement with international terrorism.
They are arrested and SF wash their hands of them saying that they are no longer party members, although it turns out later that they are (Apologies, I thought one was a councillor, my bad I should have realised one was actually SF's official representative in Cuba).
Aforementioned SF/IRA members claim they were "Monitoring the Peace process" but for whom no one knows, because they don't belong to a political party
They are convicted of training rebel terrorists (using dubious evidence) and travelling under false passports. They decide to ignore the convictions and leave the country returning to Ireland where, although not members of SF, the SF leader treats them like heros.
So, we have three convicted terrorists and members of an organisation linked to organised crime and drug dealing, who travel illegally to the drug producing capital of the world, returning back to Ireland and we all wonder why it is that Ireland has such a big drugs problem and witnesses involved in gangland criminal cases are being intimidated by the use of pipe bombs. Go figure.
I'm not worried about justifying their actions to the columbian government, I am more worried about the fact that these guys are walking around like republican heros in a country where I am bringing up a family. Why is it the entire country thinks these guys are as guilty of trading bomb making expertise for drugs or money except SF supporters?
Maybe if someone knows otherwise they could shed some light on the matter, which, incidentally, has nothing to do with Guildford, Equitorial guinnea or the death of Aiden McAnespie.
Oh so now they were paid in drugs? :rolleyes:
You really are a joke ain't ya.so we should ignore Interpol, or only use it when it suits us?
You've been asked loads of times where are you from? Because on everything you talk about it seems your either a loyalist or from England.
The men are safely at home where they belong end of story they ain't gonig back, they helped them build barrack busters, that's want you want to hear? Fine there you go now get over it.0
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