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Evolution Theory is Error

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    #32
    Zombrex
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    No, you will find no such proof. But its interesting how athiests accept the false doctrine of somebody from the 1800s but deny the doctrine that exists for much longer.

    It is interesting how someone who clearly knows very little about evolutionary biology can claim to know it is wrong :rolleyes:


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    #33
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    Wicknight wrote: »
    Pretty much an 1st year chemistry student with a basic chemistry set and some chemicals can demonstrate this (again your misuse of the word "prove" strongly suggests to me you aren't a scientist as you claim). You have to do a bit more to become "famous and wealthy" in this day and age

    I think all your credibility goes out the window with that statement. We have someone here who claims to produce life in 1st year chemistry. :pac:


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    #34
    Zombrex
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Yes, but none of them prove the theory. In fact science cannot prove the thoery for if it could the doctrine would not be a theory.

    What in Gods name are you babbling about?

    Nothing in science is ever "proven" ... proof is a mathematical concept. No scientific theory has ever been proven. Such a feat is impossible.

    Please inform us how you are a scientist but you don't understand this basic point?


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    #35
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Why are government supported scientists and archeologists just "finding" them now?
    Issa conspiracy. Black helicopters, tinfoil hats and all that.


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    #36
    death1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭death1234567


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    But its interesting how athiests accept the false doctrine of somebody from the 1800s but and deny the false doctrine that exists for much longer.
    Edited for accuracy. Hey Gareth, Troll much? Or are you Jim Corr in disguise?
    I'd argue with you only I'm off to worship Xenu.


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    #37
    pH
    Registered Users Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    No, you will find no such proof. But its interesting how athiests accept the false doctrine of somebody from the 1800s but deny the doctrine that exists for much longer.

    And anyway your pope has accepted that evolution happened, who are you to disagree with him*?

    *Isn't there a trite saying that one definition of madness is repeating something again and again expecting different results? Given *that* thread, I'm abandoning any form of rational, logical or scientific arguments for this one and instead will recourse to lies, misdirection and emotional appeals.


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    #38
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,953 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Yes, but none of them prove the theory. In fact science cannot prove the thoery for if it could the doctrine would not be a theory.

    You are no scientist. Everything in science is a theory, even I know that. Gravity is a theory.


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    #39
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    robindch wrote: »
    Issa conspiracy. Black helicopters, tinfoil hats and all that.

    Its only when the theory supports the manufactured society that the media dictate the findings.

    Like I say, the world is full of scientists and people who do great things with science yet they don't have an explanation of how life was formed, instead they propose theories that cannot be proved.


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    #40
    g'em
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    So explain to me then, no other scientist can prove this but you can. Im very interested, you are to become very famous and wealthy.
    They did, and he was. Stanley Miller created the Miller's Spark Experiment. Water, methane, hydrogen and ammonia together in a sealed flask, add water and an electrical current and hey presto, you get 22 amino acids.


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    #41
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,953 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Its only when the theory supports the manufactured society that the media dictate the findings.

    Like I say, the world is full of scientists and people who do great things with science yet they don't have an explanation of how life was formed, instead they propose theories that cannot be proved.

    Ah - i'll be converted as soon as you show me PROOF of God and the Creation THEORY.


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    #42
    death1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭death1234567


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Like I say, the world is full of scientists and people who do great things with science yet they don't have an explanation of how life was formed, instead they propose theories that cannot be proved.
    Yep, there's even some crazy people who prospose a theory that a supernatural, omnipotent (SP?) super power created life in his/her/its own image. I know you don't believe me but its true. :eek:


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    #43
    keane2097
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    I'm a troll - arrrggghh!

    imo


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    #44
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    pH wrote: »
    And anyway your pope has accepted that evolution happened, who are you to disagree with him*?

    *Isn't there a trite saying that one definition of madness is repeating something again and again expecting different results? Given *that* thread, I'm abandoning any form of rational, logical or scientific arguments for this one and instead will recourse to lies, misdirection and emotional appeals.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-04-12-pope-evolution_N.htm

    Many false prophets will arise, telling you many things but beneath all these lies is greed in a manufactured man made society.

    Don't be deceived as many are deceived, the right gate is much narrower than the wrong gate.


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    #45
    TheIrishGrover
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    I don't mean this to sound like a troll or anything but I keep seeing creationists explain how evolution etc is incorrect with various claims similar to the OP. Rather than disproving evolution et al are there any creationists theories about the creation of the universe other than "God did it" What I mean to say is, are there any theories out there that try to explain HOW God did these things or is it just taken as a given? I'm not trying to knock creationists. I believe that each person should have their own beliefs and not try to FORCE them upon anyone. However I am just curious: Is there creationist research into HOW the universe/life came into being or is it jusw research how the universe/live did NOT come into being?

    For the record, I'm an athiest but I try to listen with an open mind.


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    #46
    kmick
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    Gareth us scientists use what all good Religious use to justify their arguments "Faith". We have faith in what scientists tell us because they use systems which check and double check, they have peer review, they publish their work for all to criticize. Its a wonderful thing faith as you know.

    God bless you and us all with enlightenment and faith.

    By the way you are not a social scientist are you? They dont use any of the methods above.


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    #47
    pH
    Registered Users Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Its only when the theory supports the manufactured society that the media dictate the findings.

    The theory of evolution was written down in a book called "On the origin of species" by Charles Darwin. There is plenty of evidence that Charles Darwin was real and wrote that book, I'm confused here, what else do you require?


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    #48
    robindch
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    35 minutes. 48 messages.

    Well done everybody!


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    #49
    Zulu
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Its only when the theory supports the manufactured society that the media dictate the findings.

    Like I say, the world is full of scientists and people who do great things with science yet they don't have an explanation of how life was formed, instead they propose theories that cannot be proved.
    Ah, so you don't have any proof to back up your incredible claim, only inane rhetoric.

    I see.


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    #50
    pH
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19956961/

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-04-12-pope-evolution_N.htm

    Many false prophets will arise, telling you many things but beneath all these lies is greed in a manufactured man made society.

    Don't be deceived as many are deceived, the right gate is much narrower than the wrong gate.

    That's the US media, I don't trust them, I mainly just go for their porn.
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1034.html


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    #51
    PDN
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    robindch wrote: »
    Anyhow -- yay, our very own creationism thread!!!

    Way to go! Does this mean that now I can close our one down?


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    #52
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    Dawkins who people seem to warship on here seems quite puzzled in his views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g&feature=related

    He couldn't answer a simple question on which the basis of the theory is built upon


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    #53
    kmick
    Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    I think Einstein had the right idea when he said
    "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."


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    #54
    pH
    Registered Users Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Dawkins who people seem to warship on here seems quite puzzled in his views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g&feature=related

    He couldn't answer a simple question on which the basis of the theory is built upon

    That's not real, it's some guy dressed up in a Dawkins mask that creationists filmed to make the real Dawkins look bad. Everyone knows that the real Dawkins is older, less well dressed and far more curmudgeonly than that. Bad fake imho.


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    #55
    Dades
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    robindch wrote: »
    35 minutes. 48 messages.
    Tell me about it!
    You step out for an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet and look what happens...

    Sure we'll leave this open as long as people are enjoying themselves.


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    #56
    Galvasean
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    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Dawkins who people seem to warship on here seems quite puzzled in his views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g&feature=related

    He couldn't answer a simple question on which the basis of the theory is built upon

    If you had taken the time to look at one of the several videos (in realted videos for your convenience) which shows how that video was a hoax made by Creationists. Here's one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXzF9zDy_k&feature=related
    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Ah - i'll be converted as soon as you show me PROOF of God and the Creation THEORY.

    Replace the word theory with hypothesis.


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    #57
    Galvasean
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    Dades wrote: »
    Tell me about it!
    You step out for an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet and look what happens...

    Sure we'll leave this open as long as people are enjoying themselves.

    We'll build our own Creationism thread, even bigger than the one in Christianity. That's what it's REALLY all about isn't it?


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    #58
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,953 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Dawkins who people seem to warship on here seems quite puzzled in his views:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g&feature=related

    He couldn't answer a simple question on which the basis of the theory is built upon

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_MN_O9ICzY&feature=related


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    #59
    studiorat
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    Yay! Gareth for christanity mod.!!


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    #60
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users Posts: 45,953 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Galvasean wrote: »
    We'll build our own Creationism thread, even bigger than the one in Christianity. That's what it's REALLY all about isn't it?

    can we have hookers? And blackjack?


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    #61
    Galvasean
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    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    can we have hookers? And blackjack?

    Are they mentioned in the Bible?
    There's your answer. :)


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