Whats with this constant Ryanair bashing ?

doonothing

I've gone on 9 holidays this year thanks to ryanair. €20, 0.02, 0.02, €12, €23, €12, €40, €12, €12. I've never had a complaint or a disheartening experience! I'm happy to fly at less ideal times and days for prices like that, never effected my holiday and was well worth the extra spending money!

humbert

Flying with Ryanair is an unpleasant experience. The tacky decor, cringe worthy advertising on board and often worst of all, your fellow passangers and their inability to behave like self-respecting human beings.

However I am very glad to have the option of flying all over Europe for next to nothing, especially when I was a student. So, while I will often complain about the experience I am glad to have service.

I prefer flying with Aerlingus but I've suffered more with delays and their unions complaining really pisses me off.

villager

have to say fly ryanair all the time. i know what i am going to get for the cheap prices. if you dont like the service dont buy it.

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Tar.Aldarion

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Ryanair are great, I can go to britain cheaper than getting a train to another part of my own country. Ryanair ftw.

Random

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

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Ryanair are great, I can go to britain cheaper than getting a train to another part of my own country. Ryanair ftw.

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ven0m

OPENROAD wrote: »

If you fly to London often, why do you go with Aer Lingus?? Why not go with bmi British Midland, same fares,better service and free food and drink when you reach blue plus.

Cos BM have been investigated from complaints by me on the two occasions I've used them where flights were delayed & I was told my rights as a passenger I could more or less go swing, & they didn't care about them. They cared when I made complaints to aviation authorities ;-)

ven0m

P.C. wrote: »

Yes, but if you had invested it wisely, you might have had five times the original amout, or even more. So, you could have had €650 or more now.

Its called economics.

130 quid in a wallet IS still 130 quid in a wallet .... which part of that is unclear?

Jesus, this reminds me of that scene at the start of lock stock with Nick the Greek arguing over the price of the bloody stereo .......

zuroph

yes, but no1 keeps 130 quid in a wallet for ten years.

130 quid was worth a lot more back then. its basic inflation. ur down money by keeping it in that wallet. the number might be the same, but its worth less to you, and to anyone u try pass it on to.

remember when ud get a can of coke for 40p. or a mars bar for 28. or when taytos went to 12p and there was uproar?!

ven0m

zuroph wrote: »

yes, but no1 keeps 130 quid in a wallet for ten years.

130 quid was worth a lot more back then. its basic inflation. ur down money by keeping it in that wallet. the number might be the same, but its worth less to you, and to anyone u try pass it on to.

remember when ud get a can of coke for 40p. or a mars bar for 28. or when taytos went to 12p and there was uproar?!

It would seem people in this thread have a very VERY short memory, & seem to forget there is little change since the introduction of the Euro, especially when retailers went profiteering on the back of the changeover. Little has changed in terms of value for your euro since we first got it.

Anyways, this whole things is off point - RyanAir are an airline you travel with when you are fully aware that your only expectation is you get on a plane, & arrive at your destination, & any mention of any kind of physical comfort or other comforts are off the cards, & that you can expect poor service from very low paid staff, so when it happens don't be suprised.

They'd charge you for toilet paper in the plane if they thought they could. I mean, I'm waiting for them to install pay-toilets in planes next.

Ponster

ven0m wrote: »

It would seem people in this thread have a very VERY short memory, & seem to forget there is little change since the introduction of the Euro, especially when retailers went profiteering on the back of the changeover. Little has changed in terms of value for your euro since we first got it.

Actually a lot has changed. The €100 in your pocket that you left in your wallet 10 years ago would today only be worth about €75 in today's money based on Ireland's annual inflation rate. This is the point that some people feel you that you aren't understanding.

senordingdong

I just don't understand how Aer Lingus still get business.

Everytime I've inspected their site, their flights average €250 one way.
To somewhere that Ryanair will take me for €20.

But lets nip some things in the butt right here....
Ryanairs planes are alot newer than everyone elses, therefor in better shape and they are certainly cleaner.
Assuming the BA or AL are cleaner just because their tickets cost more is ludacris.

Ryanair offer short hop flights. If I'm only going to be on the plane for three hours, why the hell would I need food?

Also, it's a plane, which is technically just a bus with wings. Why are so many people automatically associating air travel with some luxurious five star treatment?

As for the scrum to get seats....I just stay in my seat at the terminal.
Some spanner will stand up half an hour early and start queing, then someone else sees him and gets up behind him, then another folows, and another...
All the while, I stay in my seat and when they are all onboard, I will get up and walk at my own pace to my seat.
What's the rush?
'OMFG! I haz to get teh bezt seat loike!' They're all the ****ing same!

Fratton Fred

rossie1977 wrote: »

on a recent flight to tenerife with ryanair i was on, a woman fell ill and the staff looked after her better than nurses in a hospital, they came around with oxygen, pillows, blankets, water. so much for poor customer service :rolleyes:

err yeah, dead passengers have an adverse affect on turn around times

humbert wrote: »

Flying with Ryanair is an unpleasant experience. The tacky decor, cringe worthy advertising on board and often worst of all, your fellow passangers and their inability to behave like self-respecting human beings.

However I am very glad to have the option of flying all over Europe for next to nothing, especially when I was a student. So, while I will often complain about the experience I am glad to have service. .

Which is why I try and avoid them. its not so much the airline itself, its the people that fly with them.

ven0m wrote: »

Cos BM have been investigated from complaints by me on the two occasions I've used them where flights were delayed & I was told my rights as a passenger I could more or less go swing, & they didn't care about them. They cared when I made complaints to aviation authorities ;-)

That surprises me, I fly with them regularly and I find them great. Their "Offshore" call centre is a bit naff and their flights often get delayed for the same reason Aer Lingus' do, because flying into Heathrow is a nightmare, especially for a short flight, but generally they are great. One complaint though, their breakfast pannini is not a patch on the Aer Lingus full breakfast, but i suppose when its free you can't complain too much:D

ven0m

Ponster wrote: »

Actually a lot has changed. The €100 in your pocket that you left in your wallet 10 years ago would today only be worth about €75 in today's money based on Ireland's annual inflation rate. This is the point that some people feel you that you aren't understanding.

So two crisp 50 euro notes are not two crisp 50 euro notes ..... interesting ..... Please contact Mister Stephen Hawkings, who would love your take on such a change in the laws of physics.

asdasd

So two crisp 50 euro notes are not two crisp 50 euro notes ..... interesting ..... Please contact Mister Stephen Hawkings, who would love your take on such a change in the laws of physics.

Oh I suspect that Stephen Hawkings understands the very very simple concept of inflation. give him a call.

ven0m

asdasd wrote: »

Oh I suspect that Stephen Hawkings understands the very very simple concept of inflation. give him a call.

I would, but I'm getting engaged tones cos he must be online form his wheelchair.

Ponster

ven0m if you don't understand what inflation is then that's fine. I didn't really understand either until I was well into my 20's. I'm sure my little brother doesn't know it even exists.

Basically if you have €100 today you can buy x amount of goods with it. But we have something called inflation with is like a tax on your money. Every year your €100 buys you less and less x due to prices going up.

Inflation is the rising costs of what you have to pay for goods.

If wages can't keep pace with inflation and people stop and or cut back severely at buying these goods then inflation increases. The 'tax' gets higher and your money becomes less valuable. This is why a cabbage in Zimbabwe today will set you back about $1,000,000 where as a few years back you could have got one for a couple of cents. So over a period of time 2 €50 notes are not actually worth the same thing.

asdasd

I didn't really understand either until I was well into my 20's

See, I dont get that. It was clear to me that stuff was increasing in price as a kid and I needed more pocket money every year to stay even. How is this not obvious?

robinph

ven0m wrote: »

So two crisp 50 euro notes are not two crisp 50 euro notes ..... interesting ..... Please contact Mister Stephen Hawkings, who would love your take on such a change in the laws of physics.

You are quite right that €50 is still €50 however many number of years later. What is not the same though is how much time you have to spend in work in order to earn that €50, or how many pints you can now buy with that €50, or how many pints of milk you can buy with that €50 etc....

The only thing that has stayed the same whilst that €50 has been sat in your pocket is the number that is written on it, it's value of what it can be used for has changed.

Sean9015

dionsiseire wrote: »

No other company in any other type of business would get away with it, just aviation

Really? Or do they just call it something different (eg booking fees for concert tickets).

ScumLord

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

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Ryanair are great, I can go to britain cheaper than getting a train to another part of my own country. Ryanair ftw.

That's the truth, trains are stupid expensive here. I've been on trains all over Europe and nearly hit the bitch in Dublin that wanted to charge me €40 to get a one way train to Galway.

MOH

dionsiseire wrote: »

I also dispise their 10 euro to book by credit card, with no alternative, im sorry but if dunness stores or superquinn started charging you 10 euro to use a credit card you'd whip out the cash fairly handy for your 5 euro worth of purchases.

Ryanair charge you to pay, and nobody seems to bat an eyelid, how can they get away with not offering a free method of paying for a flight with them. its a disgrace

dionsiseire wrote: »

Dont forget they could easily avoid the stupid of a charge to pay by just putting into their charges and nobody would know the difference

its just because its so blatant that it gets under the skin, they have a whole page dedicated to showing you that by paying them for their services which they have priced according to their business model they will take 10 euro from you.

No other company in any other type of business would get away with it, just aviation

They offer a free method of paying. It's called a Visa Electron. If you don't have one, tough luck.
I do, and I don't particularly feel like having the 10 euro included in the base fare just to suit people like you two. I booked my last 4 flights for a total of 4 cents. Aer Lingus would have cost me about 160 euro for the same flights.

The other thing I can never understand is why everyone whinges about Ryanair's credit card charges, and their administration fee for returning taxes.

Aer Lingus charge exactly the same handling fee, but before you get near the payment stage - so you really do have no way of avoiding it. All airlines have a similar charge. Cyprus Airways charge 12 euro on a 1-way flight. Lufthansa charge 14 euro. It's not just airlines - I bought a laptop online the other day, credit cards had a .95% processing charge.


And as for getting your taxes refunded, you have exactly the same problem with Aer Lingus, etc. What I never understand is why everyone focuses on the airlines. Instead of each airline having to have their own separate system for refunding charges for flights no taken, why don't the Revenue have a simple centralised system for doing it? Why do people not complain to the Revenue that they['ve been over charged for this tax? Should cost a lot less in administration if it's being done once, and would easily highlight if the airlines aren't actually passing the money on, allowing the Revenue to go after them for it.


But don't let reality get in the way.

boopolo

I never seem to to see this great service on Aer Lingus flights in the last few years. On some occasions the senior hostess'es seem to have fake smiles and look like they cannot wait to get home. I still get charged booking fee. I paid a CC booking fee of about €13 for two tickets to PussyCat dolls for my wife and daughter.

Past six months flying included been to SE Asia twice with KLM (4 Aer Lingus connections to Amsterdam) 4 PAL and Cebu Pacific internal. To Australia return QUANTAS from Manila to Sydney + 1 internal flight. To Malaga return with Ryanair.

I was treated fine on all these flights. All planes were clean. For 13 hour KLM flight food and drink is free of course. Shorthaul fights; nothing is free. Some people dont like the colour scheme inside the Ryanair planes. FFS yee are on the plane for an hour or two. It is plastic and clean. Could be cloth and the last person on the plane could have spitted and sneezed at the seatback.

I lived in London in the early 80's. If I wanted to come home to Ireland I could book an Apex or Super-Apex flight with Aer lingus if I booked weeks in advance. It cost around £100. :eek:

Bottom line. Ryanair is the best thing that ever was invented for the Irish people. It makes me laugh when I hear some of the whidgers here. Ryanair has a fabolous safety record. Ryanair flights are just as punctiual as any other airline. They also have the newest planes. O Leary is a pain in the arse, and seems so unprofessional. But his business model has made one of the most successful Irish companies.

Next time you read a report 'there was no oxygen coming out of my mask' when a plane depressurises, do some homework on the ammount of oxygen that comes out and what is needed. (its not air its oxygen 21% of air is oxygen). If the persons who made this claim had in fact no oxygen they would be probably dead from hyposia. At 30,000 feet you go unconsious in 30secs without oxygen. If you get too much oxygen you will hyperventilate.

Sorry for the above ranting. Am just trying to show, dont always beleive what you hear or read. Witness accounts are often proven to be unreliable and/or exagerated at a later stage.



Boo

Dob74

boopolo wrote: »

I never seem to to see this great service on Aer Lingus flights in the last few years. On some occasions the senior hostess'es seem to have fake smiles and look like they cannot wait to get home. I still get charged booking fee. I paid a CC booking fee of about €13 for two tickets to PussyCat dolls for my wife and daughter.

Past six months flying included been to SE Asia twice with KLM (4 Aer Lingus connections to Amsterdam) 4 PAL and Cebu Pacific internal. To Australia return QUANTAS from Manila to Sydney + 1 internal flight. To Malaga return with Ryanair.

I was treated fine on all these flights. All planes were clean. For 13 hour KLM flight food and drink is free of course. Shorthaul fights; nothing is free. Some people dont like the colour scheme inside the Ryanair planes. FFS yee are on the plane for an hour or two. It is plastic and clean. Could be cloth and the last person on the plane could have spitted and sneezed at the seatback.

I lived in London in the early 80's. If I wanted to come home to Ireland I could book an Apex or Super-Apex flight with Aer lingus if I booked weeks in advance. It cost around £100. :eek:

Bottom line. Ryanair is the best thing that ever was invented for the Irish people. It makes me laugh when I hear some of the whidgers here. Ryanair has a fabolous safety record. Ryanair flights are just as punctiual as any other airline. They also have the newest planes. O Leary is a pain in the arse, and seems so unprofessional. But his business model has made one of the most successful Irish companies.

Next time you read a report 'there was no oxygen coming out of my mask' when a plane depressurises, do some homework on the ammount of oxygen that comes out and what is needed. (its not air its oxygen 21% of air is oxygen). If the persons who made this claim had in fact no oxygen they would be probably dead from hyposia. At 30,000 feet you go unconsious in 30secs without oxygen. If you get too much oxygen you will hyperventilate.

Sorry for the above ranting. Am just trying to show, dont always beleive what you hear or read. Witness accounts are often proven to be unreliable and/or exagerated at a later stage.



Boo

I have no problem with Ryanair but I dont want them to own Aer Lingus. We still need competition between them to fares down.
AL service has become very poor. The last few times I have flown with them the staff weren't very friendly.
At least with Ryanair you dont expect to treated well. But the staff are ok and just get on with it.
AL the staff still have notions. They need a reality check. You serve food on a bus in the sky.

Quickfire

Never had a problem with them either.

Quickfire

Is that any way to talk to the people who are paying your pension and your bus and train travel?

opa01_2000

I realise everybody has their opinion but I cannot understand the posts here about FR’s punctuality and prices. I need to be in England weekly for work and used FR for nearly 6 months last year from Derry to Stansted Monday morning and Friday evening. In this time I had one flight on a Friday evening which arrived on time and we were greeted with a fanfare on this occasion. All other occasions we were not greeted at all. The worst delay I had was six hours at Stansted when the lady at the gate (a Ryanair employee) said “don’t ask for vouchers – they won’t give you any” when she announced the six-hour delay. For the accountant, a couple of weeks ago I looked up the flights I had to England last year and found the average price for FR was £125 per week.I also had one cancellation, without any explanation, at Derry one Monday morning and although I was promised the fee would be paid back onto my credit card within days it took me three months and a written complaint before they repaid it.

Since February I’ve been using the Aer Lingus Belfast to Heathrow route. I’ve had 2 delays both down to air traffic control at Heathrow – the longest was 1.5 hours. The average price is £90 per week.

Also on the myth that FR is cheaper I need to be in London on 30th December, single flight, no bags so I had a look at all options available – not on expenses so I don’t want to pay too much. Don't really want to go to Stansted as it's too far from where I need to be but I've included it as I don't want to dismiss any alternatives.

I looked up all the alternatives two weeks ago and this is what I found:
From To With? Time Cost
Derry Stansted FR 8.50 - 10.10 £69.33
Derry Luton FR 15.30 - 16.50 £149.33
Belfast City Stansted FR 6.30 - 7.45 £64.55
Belfast City Stansted FR 15.10 - 16.25 £78.55
Knock Stansted FR No flight avail
Knock Luton FR 11.30 - 12.50 € 85.17
Belfast City Heathrow BMI 11.10 - 12.35 £108
Dublin Heathrow BMI 11.10 - 12.35 € 265
Belfast Intl Heathrow EI 12.50 - 2.15 £74.98
Dublin Heathrow EI Lots of choice € 78.98

I was also booking 4 return flights to London recently for January, leaving Monday morning and returning Friday evening, and I checked the prices for FR from Derry to Stansted against EI from Belfast to Heathrow. The total costs for FR was £342.49 including one bag and from EI £374.88 again including 1 bag. So a difference of £32.39 for 8 flights and in my opinion, in terms of service, a difference of day and night.

In all my flights to the UK (and believe me I've done most routes) I would rank the service in the following order:
(1) BMI
(2) Aer Lingus
(3) Easyjet
(4) BMIbaby
(5) Ryanair

Don't get me wrong - I will still use FR when it suits me but I do think they are more expensive than people realise and the service is awfully poor.

OPENROAD

opa01_2000 wrote: »

Don't get me wrong - I will still use FR when it suits me but I do think they are more expensive than people realise and the service is awfully poor.

Very true, my route is Dub-LHR, most people seem to think that Ryanair are the cheapest into London however when you add in the extras I have found this not to be the case, in fact bmi who have the best servie have worked out cheaper for me.

banshee_bones

kudos to OP!

its Ryanair. .You get what you pay for.

If you go with no expectations you wont be let down.

I think M.O Leary is a legend and i would shake his hand if i met him and i think he said once..

"For years flying has been the preserve of rich ****ers. Now everyone can afford to fly."

so there you have it. Dont use it if you dont want to! Go somewhere else!

boopolo

opa01_2000 wrote: »

I realise everybody has their opinion but I cannot understand the posts here about FR’s punctuality and prices. I need to be in England weekly for work and used FR for nearly 6 months last year from Derry to Stansted Monday morning and Friday evening. In this time I had one flight on a Friday evening which arrived on time and we were greeted with a fanfare on this occasion. All other occasions we were not greeted at all. The worst delay I had was six hours at Stansted when the lady at the gate (a Ryanair employee) said “don’t ask for vouchers – they won’t give you any” when she announced the six-hour delay. For the accountant, a couple of weeks ago I looked up the flights I had to England last year and found the average price for FR was £125 per week.I also had one cancellation, without any explanation, at Derry one Monday morning and although I was promised the fee would be paid back onto my credit card within days it took me three months and a written complaint before they repaid it.

Since February I’ve been using the Aer Lingus Belfast to Heathrow route. I’ve had 2 delays both down to air traffic control at Heathrow – the longest was 1.5 hours. The average price is £90 per week.

Also on the myth that FR is cheaper I need to be in London on 30th December, single flight, no bags so I had a look at all options available – not on expenses so I don’t want to pay too much. Don't really want to go to Stansted as it's too far from where I need to be but I've included it as I don't want to dismiss any alternatives.

I looked up all the alternatives two weeks ago and this is what I found:
From To With? Time Cost
Derry Stansted FR 8.50 - 10.10 £69.33
Derry Luton FR 15.30 - 16.50 £149.33
Belfast City Stansted FR 6.30 - 7.45 £64.55
Belfast City Stansted FR 15.10 - 16.25 £78.55
Knock Stansted FR No flight avail
Knock Luton FR 11.30 - 12.50 € 85.17
Belfast City Heathrow BMI 11.10 - 12.35 £108
Dublin Heathrow BMI 11.10 - 12.35 € 265
Belfast Intl Heathrow EI 12.50 - 2.15 £74.98
Dublin Heathrow EI Lots of choice € 78.98

I was also booking 4 return flights to London recently for January, leaving Monday morning and returning Friday evening, and I checked the prices for FR from Derry to Stansted against EI from Belfast to Heathrow. The total costs for FR was £342.49 including one bag and from EI £374.88 again including 1 bag. So a difference of £32.39 for 8 flights and in my opinion, in terms of service, a difference of day and night.

In all my flights to the UK (and believe me I've done most routes) I would rank the service in the following order:
(1) BMI
(2) Aer Lingus
(3) Easyjet
(4) BMIbaby
(5) Ryanair

Don't get me wrong - I will still use FR when it suits me but I do think they are more expensive than people realise and the service is awfully poor.

Amazing figures.

So I decided to check for myself

Did a few trial runs from Derry to Stanstead/Luton on Mondays morning and returning friday evening.

Each flight was either £10 with no tax, or £0 with £10 tax. That is £20 return inc tax.

Thinking this was only for January, I tried February ... It's same £20 return ... March is the same.

I understand that you would not get this offer if you were booking a few days in advance: its £58 for next monday morning for instance and pennies for the afternoon one way.
But seeing as you were using this route every week for 6 months you could book your flights well in advance (cheaper than the train to Birmingham).

Steyr

Michael O' Leary is a GENIUS, I salute you Sir.

holyshow

I dislike Ryanair.
On a recent (delayed) flight from Spain my hand luggage was slightly overweight which meant I had to pay an extra 10 euro ( if i remember correctly). While at the desk I removed 3 cans which would have brought me within the limit but was told it was too late... this confused the living fup out of me.

Also the fact that they are absolutely terrified of the idea of Unions is a pretty good indicator of a dodgy operation.

dfx-

dfx- wrote: »

If you got €30 of petrol, would you like a charge of €10 just to pay it by laser card at the counter?

And you would keep going to that petrol station?

Charging you for paying is ridiculous. It's better than amp's stupidity filter.

So if your tank of petrol came to 100euro but you found out that a petrol station down the road charges only 20euro for the exact same amount, which would you want to use?

Fulton Crown

holyshow wrote: »

I dislike Ryanair.
On a recent (delayed) flight from Spain my hand luggage was slightly overweight which meant I had to pay an extra 10 euro ( if i remember correctly). While at the desk I removed 3 cans which would have brought me within the limit but was told it was too late... this confused the living fup out of me.

Also the fact that they are absolutely terrified of the idea of Unions is a pretty good indicator of a dodgy operation.

Travelling with Ryanair...you MUST know the rules....remember what I said in previous post.....they will screw you in every they can......so ..not knowing weight......baaaaad...."please take money from me Ryan air for I am too lazy to check luggage weight properly."

You dislike Ryanair ? They love you....honest! - your a license to print money.

OPENROAD

boopolo wrote: »

Amazing figures.

So I decided to check for myself

Did a few trial runs from Derry to Stanstead/Luton on Mondays morning and returning friday evening.

Each flight was either £10 with no tax, or £0 with £10 tax. That is £20 return inc tax.

Thinking this was only for January, I tried February ... It's same £20 return ... March is the same.

I understand that you would not get this offer if you were booking a few days in advance: its £58 for next monday morning for instance and pennies for the afternoon one way.
But seeing as you were using this route every week for 6 months you could book your flights well in advance (cheaper than the train to Birmingham).

It really does depend when you are going to travel though,so the above figures would not be relevant for the other poster, although I am brand loyal to bmi British Midland, I always do a comparison with Aer Lingus and Ryanair. For the next two months for the times I want to travel bmi works out nearly 50 Euro cheaper than Ryanair and Aer Lingus
and the service is way better. Think people should not always assume Ryanair will be the cheapest when you take into account that you have to pay to check in luggage etc.. always worth checking out all your options.

opa01_2000

boopolo wrote: »

Amazing figures.

So I decided to check for myself

Did a few trial runs from Derry to Stanstead/Luton on Mondays morning and returning friday evening.

Each flight was either £10 with no tax, or £0 with £10 tax. That is £20 return inc tax.

Thinking this was only for January, I tried February ... It's same £20 return ... March is the same.

I understand that you would not get this offer if you were booking a few days in advance: its £58 for next monday morning for instance and pennies for the afternoon one way.
But seeing as you were using this route every week for 6 months you could book your flights well in advance (cheaper than the train to Birmingham).

I always book 6 weeks in advance (as I tend to have a month's notice on the contracts I'm working on) and £125 per week last year was the average fare - the Derry - Stansted route was much more popular then. There was 2 flights a day from Derry to Stansted then.

For January I have again (prompted by your post) checked the prices - Derry to Stansted. You are correct in the second and following weeks of January. However, you didn't add in the 1 bag (£15 each way), visa charges (£5 each way) and priority boarding (to match EI's guaranteed seat £4 each way) which takes it up to £68 per week. Also, the price for the 5th - 9th January is now £159 (including 1 bag, priority boarding and CC charges). Total for 4 weeks in January £363.

I haven't rechecked the EI prices but I'm sure they will have risen as it tends to be pretty full while FR's service from Derry is, recently, less than half full.

Derry - Luton doesn't appear to run on mondays or fridays so is no use to me.

I'm not saying EI are perfect but I believe it is worth checking the prices and comparing like with like. Some people hate FR's hidden charges but as long as you make yourself aware of these and compare the total ticket prices you are making an informed decision.

jetsonx

senordingdong wrote: »

As for the scrum to get seats....I just stay in my seat at the terminal.
Some spanner will stand up half an hour early and start queing, then someone else sees him and gets up behind him, then another folows, and another...
All the while, I stay in my seat and when they are all onboard, I will get up and walk at my own pace to my seat.
What's the rush?
'OMFG! I haz to get teh bezt seat loike!' They're all the ****ing same!

Very true and very well said. There is always one spanner who get up and start the Q early.

OPENROAD

jetsonx wrote: »

Very true and very well said. There is always one spanner who get up and start the Q early.

always one it is normally half the people waiting to board who get up and early and Q it seems to be a very Irish thing, even with bmi where people have their seats pre-assigned you will get everyone in the q early

Húrin

I don't like Ryanair because I don't like its CEO. O'Leary seems to think that greed is morally good.

Biggins

(Rather than start yet another Ryan Air thread after others have done so, I'm sticking the following in here)

I accept the following new charges due to what the company is - a cheap flight company.
What alarms me is the part at the bottom of the article in bold.
How can they get away with this?

RYANAIR is now going to charge you for doing all the work of checking in yourself.

The airline is abolishing airport check-in from October -- but will shortly introduce a new €5 per person web check-in fee for the privilege of checking in online and printing your own boarding card.
The new charge will add €50 to the cost of a family holiday for five people, on the basis of €5 per person for each flight there and back for all new bookings made from May 1 onwards.
It will even apply to babies under two who travel on their parents' laps and are usually exempt from extra charges imposed by airlines.
And there is no legal barrier to it, as long as Ryanair makes its costs transparent and upfront, the Department of Transport said.
Consumer bodies described the new impositions as "the straw that could break the camel's back" in terms of driving customers away from Ryanair.

Difficulties

They also pointed out it could cause severe difficulties for elderly passengers, people trying to check in while abroad, and anyone whose printer malfunctioned.
The only way to avoid the charge is by availing of one of Ryanair's special offer promotional flight prices advertised at the front of their website.
Ryanair said that around 100 jobs would be cut at Irish airports as a result of doing away with airport check-in, and they will end their contracts with check-in service agents in European airports, saving themselves millions in the process.
Spokesman Stephen McNamara defended the decision to charge customers who are now forced to check in at home and print their own boarding cards.
"We are providing them with the facility to check in online. Websites don't build themselves you know," he said.
The Consumers Association of Ireland slated the move, which chief executive Dermott Jewell said was just outrageous and possibly even worse than their suggested toilet charge.
"This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back, it will drive a lot of people away and it is fraught with problems," he said.

The Commission for Aviation Regulation also felt it might be the final straw for consumers but said they did not have a role in adjudicating on the legality of such charges.
There could be chaos as there was a certain demographic who would find it very difficult to check in online, and all kinds of disputes could arise where boarding cards had not printed out and people were denied the right to board, a spokesman for the commission said.
Ryanair's Stephen McNamara said that where customers had made a genuine attempt to check in online but were unable to print their boarding card properly they could go to a Ryanair desk and staff would trace their details in the computer.
The 100 check-in staff who will lose their jobs at Dublin Airport will be able to reapply for other jobs with the airline, but they will not get an automatic right to transfer or any redundancy payment, Mr McNamara said.
The move comes less than a fortnight after the airline announced it was considering introducing a charge for using the toilets on its planes.
The National Consumer Agency said that, while there was no legal barrier, "the move is not in the best interests of consumers".

Source: http://www.independent.ie/travel/travel-advice/new-83645-ryanair-charge-as-checkin-desks-scrapped-1668305.html

I genuinely would have thought that workers that are with a company and are laid off are entitled to at least something?
I'm surprised at this!

zuroph

I think ryanair has a fairly high staff turnover, dont u have to be with a company for at least 2 years to get redundancy?

banshee_bones

Biggins wrote: »

I'm surprised at this!

Are ya? Really? Comon... its Ryanair...nowt they do now could surprise any of us! :rolleyes:

Biggins

zuroph wrote: »

I think ryanair has a fairly high staff turnover, dont u have to be with a company for at least 2 years to get redundancy?

Myself, I'm not sure. You prob right.
I'd have thought that some of them would have been there with the company for at least that period of time - and if thats the case, I was just wondering how come they get no redundancy.

Someone much more knowledgeable hopefully will educate me once more.
(I actually am as dumb as I look but don't tell the wife!)

big b

I think the full text of the statement is that there will be no enhanced redundancy packages.
They're legally bound to pay the minimum redundancy, but won't pay a penny more. That's what I remember from the RTE news report the other day anyway.

thebman

They can write some of it off against tax can't they or the government pays some of it somehow so I imagine the staff will get something even if it ends up being the government that pays it.