The Apprentice (IRL) 24/11/08

Our man in Havana

I don't see what they could have done if Shane said to Bill "I quit, goodbye!" got up and walked out and got the taxi home.

Cork Exile

Bond-007 wrote: »

I don't see what they could have done if Shane said to Bill "I quit, goodbye!" got up and walked out and got the taxi home.

Not much probably but putting a contractual obligation there would deter you from doing that!!! Plus if he did it that way imagine the rumours. He went the right way about leaving in theory, he f#@ked up trying to explain his reasons in the boardroom though.

Cringer

Here's what I'd love to do:

1. Get Bill to organise another Garmin type task.
2. Get a couple of ok sales people in for two days to help out with sales.
3. Give the two sales people a couple of ear pieces
4. Park Bill, a TV crew and a microphone nearby and let Bill instruct them on how to sell this stuff
4. Do it on a weekend - in mid january.


now let's see how fukcing well he does.

Our man in Havana

Not much probably but putting a contractual obligation there would deter you from doing that!!! Plus if he did it that way imagine the rumours. He went the right way about leaving in theory, he f#@ked up trying to explain his reasons in the boardroom though.

Maybe that was a re-edit at the behest of the production crew.

Personally contractual obligations in that particular situation wouldn't worry me tbh, it is not like they are being paid at any point.

Sizzler

faceman wrote: »

Whats the story with the interview episode? Whats the purpose of it?

Unfortunately for us this part of the series has come 10 weeks too late, would have been better for the viewing public if they did at the start of the series because the reality is we are left with only 1 person with an ounce of cop on (Brenda), a bird who isnt really that good at anything (Orla) a tanning salon specialist (Nikki) who would struggle to write her own CV and Stuart (bless him), probably at the right level by selling cars.

Mr E wrote: »

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He will then ignore their recommendations and pick the other 2

LOL. How true ! The irony is I bet the interviewers will make Cullen look like the apprentice

Bond-007 wrote: »

Shane should have simply stood up and walked out. They couldn't have edited that.

If only eh? Maybe he did and they begged him to go back and reshoot the piece, hence the farcical nature of his exit, laughing at Bill etc.

Cork Exile wrote: »

Good premise last night. The ideas weren't as bad as I was expecting. I liked the Christmas star gift but it wasn't original and a competitor had something similar. The photo album could work but it would need something more to accompany it.

Again, another example of Cullen getting it all wrong, I mean how the hell could you reasonably expect Orla and Shane to possibly know that a competitor of Applebys did a similar campaign? If they had that level of knowledge they wouldnt be on that side of the table ffs.

Cork Exile wrote: »

Bit of a shocker from Shane and to be honest I don't think he did himself any favors. Totally incoherent in trying to explain his reasons for leaving and it looks like there was something else going on. Together with his court case, it does not bode well for the lad.

He's working for Jacobs now !

Bond-007 wrote: »

I don't see what they could have done if Shane said to Bill "I quit, goodbye!" got up and walked out and got the taxi home.

If only he did eh? No balls. No use coming out and mouthing in the papers over the wkend and saying why he left. The fact he stayed in for so long says it all. Horse / stable door...bolted springs to mind.

Eoin

Bond-007 wrote: »

Maybe that was a re-edit at the behest of the production crew.

Personally contractual obligations in that particular situation wouldn't worry me tbh, it is not like they are being paid at any point.

Given that TV3 can pretty much edit it anyway they want if someone were to walk out, it could potentially paint them in a very bad light.

STUBBORNGIRL

I read on Sunday that Shane was the one fired - totally ruined watching the show knowing the result - Does that mean i could find out who actually won - if i read on the News of the world this sunday who is let go i will go mental! what is the point! Surely they should have a contract that prohibits them from speaking about it until it is aired!!

I think that Bill had his winner picked from Day one anyway - Stuart is definitely his favourite! he has more in common with him - Cant see him letting a woman win to be honest!

I would not work for that man - and the show is so not true to reality! All he seems to do in the boardroom is put people down - say they are not good enough - basically that their idea's are stupid - when in fact it is the tasks that are stupid!! how could anyone sell Garmin products at the weekend esp a sunday!! And Bill also ate the team that didnt go near croke park saying how stupid they were that they didnt knwo that one of the biggest sporting events was on !!! if you are going to a match then you are hardly going to have 300euro in your pocket to buy a GPS system - Totally targetting the wrong market! And thats where i totally realised that Bill hasnt a clue!! not a clue! I think the person that has won probably isnt working with him now!! no way possible to last under his power! Ignorant P!G!!

Tigger

pwd wrote: »

he had been evaluating things and had decided if he lost the task he wouldn't win the show, and leaving like that was a way of avoiding losing (sort of). imo

i prefer the bill is an idiot so i'm off home beforev the interviews next week where they ask all sorts of crappy questions

the christmas decoration was cool

the others didn't even do a gift they gave a book about a shop

if someone sent me a silver star on a red ribbon i'd wear it like a russian medal if they sent me a book about "the appeklby experiance " id have burned irt

Dr. Dodger

I think both gifts were kinda rubbish really but at least the decoration was useful, throw it on your Christmas tree or whatever. The Album was such a load of sh*t. Who wants an album full of pictures of strangers!! If I saw that on someones coffee table i'd be thinking this loser has no f*ckin friends! It's like buying a photoframe and putting it up with the sample picture left in it! Amateur mistake too not checking the colour of the Appleby's bags. Not something I would've left to memory.

Seriously, I don't think there is 1 person who deserves the job. Surely these can't represent the standard in Ireland today!

coconut5

Cork Exile wrote: »

Bit of a shocker from Shane and to be honest I don't think he did himself any favors. Totally incoherent in trying to explain his reasons for leaving and it looks like there was something else going on. Together with his court case, it does not bode well for the lad. He would have been better off seeing the show through to the final and be a gracious loser if he didn't win.

What court case?

hot fuss

STUBBORNGIRL wrote: »

I read on Sunday that Shane was the one fired - totally ruined watching the show knowing the result - Does that mean i could find out who actually won - if i read on the News of the world this sunday who is let go i will go mental! what is the point! Surely they should have a contract that prohibits them from speaking about it until it is aired!!

I'm worried about the same thing.. I just glanced at the front of the NOTW and last night's episode was absolutely ruined for me. I think it's the PR for the show leaking it though.. without a doubt. They did the same when Joanna got fired and that was ruined for me too..

Wouldn't be surprised if they do leak the winner before it finishes so I'll be avoiding even glancing at a red top between now and then if at all possible!

On the Green

coconut5 wrote: »

What court case?

I was just going to ask the same thing? What court case?

Shane was on the Ray Foley Show there at lunchtime, he came across like a sound chap. Said he had to get back to his job, knew he wouldn't win it so what's the point. Said that whoever is still there either thinks they have a chance of winning it or just likes the exposure on national tv. I know he can't say who's going to win but if you were to read between the lines you'd have to say that Brenda is going to win it. Never been up for firing, always has the best ideas. Though in saying that Stuart could do it to. Don't know what Niki and Orla are still there for; sorry girls, just not good enough.

Our man in Havana

Remember a few weeks back Shane had to take a personal day. He was in court over an alleged assault.

Eoin

Bond-007 wrote: »

Remember a few weeks back Shane had to take a personal day. He was in court over an alleged assault.

Here's the article from here

APPRENTICE star Shane Davey had a black eye when he gave a statement to gardai regarding an assault four days earlier, the Herald can reveal.

The 29-year-old went to Blackrock Garda Station to give gardai a statement about the incident when it was noted by officers that he had a bruise under his eye.

The Herald yesterday exclusively revealed how Shane Davey appeared before Dun Laoghaire District Court and faces action for the alleged assault against a man outside a South Dublin restaurant.

News of the black eye comes as TV bosses vowed to stand by Davey, who is being tipped as one of the favourites to win the TV3 programme.

Upfront

He has the full backing of the show's producers after the Herald revealed the alleged assault.

A spokesperson for producers Showtime Shinawil said that the Leopardstown man had been upfront about the charge against him, and had kept them informed of all proceedings since the alleged incident last last February.

"Shane made us aware from the word go that there was a case pending against him in the courts," a spokesperson said last night.

"But having looked at his CV and examined his credentials, he was just too strong a candidate to simply leave out.

"He has not been found guilty of anything and it would therefore have been wrong to exclude him," he added.

The 29-year-old was one of 14 contestants introduced to viewers in the first installment of the TV3 show on Monday night.

Despite being part of the male team that lost the challenge set by boss Bill Cullen, Davey's performance saw him quickly installed as a favourite to win the 12-week show.

Davey appeared before Drogheda District Court on September 3 -- just as filming for the 12 episodes of The Apprentice was being wound down.

It was alleged in court that he injured David Ryan just above his right eye in an incident outside Baan Thai Restaurant in Leopardstown on February 2 last.

Mr Davey, of Glencairn Lawn, The Gallops, Leopardstown, told Dun Laoghaire District Court that he told Ryan to calm down at least "seven or eight times".

But the alleged injured party was said to have called him a "fat b*****d" and swung punches at him. Davey then told Ryan to "go back in and bleach your hair".

Self-defence

He admitted he hit Ryan but said it was in self-defence.

Ryan said he was out for a meal with friends in Baan Thai when he looked out of the window and allegedly saw a man urinating on his father's jeep.

His father had died three weeks before the incident and the jeep had just been valeted, Ryan said. He told the court he had a "heated exchange of views" with the man who urinated on the jeep.

Ryan said he was then surrounded by two other men, one of whom was Davey, and there was another "exchange of views".

At this stage, Mrs Ryan came out of the restaurant.

Ryan said he turned around for some reason and when he turned back his wife was on the ground. He claimed he was then hit and he fell to the ground "shocked".

The court heard the three men then left the scene.

Garda Ronan Smith said both Davey and Ryan had drink taken but that neither of them were drunk.

He said Davey was "very co-operative" and told gardai he wanted to "help them get to the bottom of this".

The case was adjourned to hear further evidence from Mrs Ryan and from the defence.

kmick

Once Shane had made his decision to leave he should have got up, shook Orlas hand, said thanks and left the building. Instead he lets Bill barrack him about nothing and fire him when he had already quit. In fairness though Bills idea about a zirconium ring sent out with a real one in the shop was good. Apart from that though imagine if he was your boss. He might be worth 120m but he would never let you forget it.

Cringer

kmick wrote: »

Once Shane had made his decision to leave he should have got up, shook Orlas hand, said thanks and left the building. Instead he lets Bill barrack him about nothing and fire him when he had already quit. In fairness though Bills idea about a zirconium ring sent out with a real one in the shop was good. Apart from that though imagine if he was your boss. He might be worth 120m but he would never let you forget it.

Yeah, but I'd go to my nearest jewellers first to see if it was a real one, and what it's worth before I'd head on in to Appleby's!

Cringer

Cringer wrote: »

Yeah, but I'd go to my nearest jewellers first to see if it was a real one, and what it's worth before I'd head on in to Appleby's!

Also, I bet Bill thought he was deadly wit that suggestion. Penny Apples.

My name is Mud

kmick wrote: »

In fairness though Bills idea about a zirconium ring sent out with a real one in the shop was good.

Was his idea sending out a shitload of zirconiums, with one being a real diamond? You could only find out if it was real by actually going into Appleby's?

If so, bollox idea.

He must not think that there are literally thousands of jewellers who can certify diamonds in Ireland. Idiot Cullen.

Warrrrrriords

Baybay

Sizzler wrote: »

how the hell could you reasonably expect Orla and Shane to possibly know that a competitor of Applebys did a similar campaign?

Imo, that's exactly the sort of thing I'd expect from them. It's like getting the colour of the Appleby packaging wrong or not Googling the name of the retail outlet the week of the airport task - sloppy.

It shouldn't really matter how bad the tasks themselves are. If the contestants are truly interested in the position they should do their best, a bad workman blames his tools etc.

Whether or not Bill would be a good boss is irrelevant as they are the ones who have applied to work for him and, another cliche, when you enlist, you must soldier.

Cringer

"Originally Posted by kmick View Post
In fairness though Bills idea about a zirconium ring sent out with a real one in the shop was good."

And if they did do some research, just how much would they need to do in order to satisfy the needs of Appleby's?

I wonder, were they allowed to speak with Appleby's and ask them what their compeitors are doing/have done for Christmas? That way Appleby's wouldn't have that as an excuse.

I mean they could literally go from one end of the country to the other in order to seek out each jeweller to see if they'll tell them what they gave as a crimbo pressie. Pointless. And Bill adding his zirconia to it - sure its still a star, Bill. Their competitors sent out stars, Bill. Plank. Bill.

pwd

Tigger wrote: »

i prefer the bill is an idiot so i'm off home beforev the interviews next week where they ask all sorts of crappy questions

the christmas decoration was cool

the others didn't even do a gift they gave a book about a shop

if someone sent me a silver star on a red ribbon i'd wear it like a russian medal if they sent me a book about "the appeklby experiance " id have burned irt

probably a bit of both.

http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/shane-i-saved-orla-from-being-fired-1552108.html

Remember a few weeks back Shane had to take a personal day. He was in court over an alleged assault

you think that's bad? when he was 11 he used to run through girl's changing rooms

paulieeye

Cant wait for the Celebrity Apprentice for people in need starring Dunphy, Bardy and Gilsie

Brady: "Nooooooooo Bill..you couldn't sell the garimns either biiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllll"

Sizzler

Baybay wrote: »

Imo, that's exactly the sort of thing I'd expect from them. It's like getting the colour of the Appleby packaging wrong or not Googling the name of the retail outlet the week of the airport task - sloppy.

I agree on the DAA naming issue and the colour scheme but dont agree that they could have possibly have known that a competitor embarked on a similar campaign, I mean its not the sort of thing you can google ! When did they do it? Last month, last Xmas? Was the competitor even in Dublin? Was it successful etc? They may have done it and it might have been the best thing they ever did ffs.

Red Sleeping Beauty

Bond-007 wrote: »

Shane should have simply stood up and walked out. They couldn't have edited that.

Yeah exactly, he gave them the footage needed to make the ratings. Without him and his little confrontation to Bill there'd be no advert "ooh, they're turnign the tables on Bill"

Perhaps he told the producers before hand and they paid him to take the bollocking off of Bill?

tallaghtoutlaws

Sizzler wrote: »

I agree on the DAA naming issue and the colour scheme but dont agree that they could have possibly have known that a competitor embarked on a similar campaign, I mean its not the sort of thing you can google ! When did they do it? Last month, last Xmas? Was the competitor even in Dublin? Was it successful etc? They may have done it and it might have been the best thing they ever did ffs.

Google Buy and Fly and look at the website that pops up. What do you mean its something you just can't google? :rolleyes:

Granted on the show they went with BuyNFly but if you are smart you google all versions to make sure no one uses anything close to it because if someone does in this case www.buyandfly.ie does have a similar type of business. And this would cause a legal battle due to conflict of interests on the name alone.

Oh and they are based in Dublin

Red Sleeping Beauty

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Google Buy and Fly and look at the website that pops up. What do you mean its something you just can't google? :rolleyes:

Granted on the show they went with BuyNFly but if you are smart you google all versions to make sure no one uses anything close to it because if someone does in this case www.buyandfly.ie does have a similar type of business. And this would cause a legal battle due to conflict of interests on the name alone.

Oh and they are based in Dublin

They had a few differnt names and different ways of spelling it :

• buy 'nd fly
• buy an' fly
• buy n fly
• buy 'n fly
• buy 'n' fly
• buy + fly
• buy & fly

and then change them round 'fly & buy' etcetera

tallaghtoutlaws

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

They had a few differnt names and different ways of spelling it :

• buy 'nd fly
• buy an' fly
• buy n fly
• buy 'n fly
• buy 'n' fly
• buy + fly
• buy & fly

and then change them round 'fly & buy' etcetera

In fairness common sense should have provailed in this matter. They clearly didnt research good enough and creating a business with a similar name to another one is walking on thin ice. Especially in a related industry.

faceman

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Google Buy and Fly and look at the website that pops up. What do you mean its something you just can't google? :rolleyes:

Granted on the show they went with BuyNFly but if you are smart you google all versions to make sure no one uses anything close to it because if someone does in this case www.buyandfly.ie does have a similar type of business. And this would cause a legal battle due to conflict of interests on the name alone.

Oh and they are based in Dublin

Sizzler was referring to the Christmas gift.

Cringer

In fairness common sense should have provailed in this matter. They clearly didnt research good enough and creating a business with a similar name to another one is walking on thin ice. Especially in a related industry.

You'd think they would check the names, wouldn't you. After all, the cream always rises to the top. (ref: remaining candidates).

So does stink.

tallaghtoutlaws

faceman wrote: »

Sizzler was referring to the Christmas gift.

My apologies Sizzler I saw DAA and put 2 and 2 together. Too much caffiene for me today I seeing things.