The RTE Panel Discussion Thread 2008/2009

Mr Alan

They are a flaming disgrace.

Rafa is not a good manager, he got lucky winning the CL in 2005?no mention of his outstanding record at Valencia winning La Liga & Uefa Cup.

They are making up transfer figures, before saying that Rafa fluked a Champions League and should have built on that by winning it again the year after, and that he hasnt come near winning it since-em, he got to a final & semi-final since?!

Seriously, sometimes it actually annoys me that my TV liscence fee pays these clowns wages.

redout

Dunphy is worth every penny. A true legend, he could have them rolling in the aisle's.

spockety

In fairness they didn't say he wasn't a good manager, they said he wasn't "sophisticated"

Mr Alan

i'd have him rolling in the aisles after i set him on fire.

invincibleirish

The panel are useful as to serve as entertainment on the duller nights.

Worth every Euro!

Mr Alan

anyone else find it humiliating the way they never know ANYTHING about the opposition players, even though they are sometimes some of the biggest teams in Europe. They have no shame in saying "well, we dont know anything about this defence, so they must be brutal"

they also refered to Maxi Rodriguez as an ordinary journey man player the other week when we were playing Athletico.

Pure Cork

Thankfully we have Con Murphy, Rico, and on occasion Eoin Hand.

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They know how to annoy fans of both Liverpool and Manchester United. End of.

The fact that Mr Alan started this thread is proof of that.

Frankly, I love seeing my mates getting so annoyed watching them.

I also love seeing posters on here getting annoyed by them.

Great fun, worth every penny of the licence fee my landlord pays.

OPENROAD

The thing with rte coverage is that people praise it big time, saying how much better it is then sky etc... but as soon as they slag off your club they are crap.

LuckyLloyd

I like that it is the same thing over and over and over again. They are gambling on Liverpool ultimately failing in the league and CL. If and when we are mathematically out of contention in both they will be vindicated and able to host a big "WE TOLD YOU SO PARTY".

LuckyLloyd

OPENROAD wrote: »

The thing with rte coverage is that people praise it big time, saying how much better it is then sky etc... but as soon as they slag off your club they are crap.

Also, this is probably quite close to the truth of the matter.

opr

Crosspost this gem tonight from the other thread.

Giles "when a team wins the european cup Peter your looking for them to build on it and win more european cups or at least get close to winning it again liverpool since they won it have never been close or even look like being close"

Peter "emmm well they did get to a another final"

Giles "ahhhhh yeah huh i mean premierships and ehhh stuffff!"

Edit - Is Peter a Liverpool fan ?

Opr

Tusky

I dont watch them anymore as they frustrate me so much. Its not just Liverpool, its there complete lack of knowledge about foreign teams and players. How do they get paid to spout their 'expert' opinions is beyond me. What I wouldnt give to have someone withn the knowledge of James Richardson or Sid Lowe on the show.

Chong

Tusky wrote: »

I dont watch them anymore as they frustrate me so much. Its not just Liverpool, its there complete lack of knowledge about foreign teams and players. How do they get paid to spout their 'expert' opinions is beyond me. What I wouldnt give to have someone withn the knowledge of James Richardson or Sid Lowe on the show.

+ 1 , just switch off Al , they suck at coverage.

mike65

Don't watch the cretins, its not like you are being surprised at thier blatent trolling. Oh sorry its on d'telly.

Mike

redout

Tusky wrote: »

I dont watch them anymore as they frustrate me so much. Its not just Liverpool, its there complete lack of knowledge about foreign teams and players. How do they get paid to spout their 'expert' opinions is beyond me. What I wouldnt give to have someone withn the knowledge of James Richardson or Sid Lowe on the show.

In fairness Dunphy seems to know a bit about the Spanish sides and claims to watch La liga every week. Giles I dont think has a clue about anyone outside the premiership.

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What I do hate though, is the whole of RTE's ineptness in the names department.

Marciano, who the fúck is he?

Mr Alan

OPENROAD wrote: »

The thing with rte coverage is that people praise it big time, saying how much better it is then sky etc... but as soon as they slag off your club they are crap.

i never deny that, i laugh my arse off when they are calling Ronaldo ****e etc etc, all the time i know they are wrong obviously, but i still find it funny-because they really think they are right.

but when they start being so brazenly ridiculous about the likes of Rafa, i do get seriously pissed off.

they are just really bad at their jobs

they are not shock jockies, their job is NOT to annoy people.

if they are not intentionally trying to annoy people, well then they should be sacked for not being sufficently qualified to be a pundit for any match not involving any of the top 4 in England......they dont know players,managers, formations anything.....for lads picking up a few hundred grand a year, its shocking.

DSB

I don't think anyone has ever tuned into RTE coverage expecting expert analysis though. People watch it because these people are ill informed and controversial. I'm sure this thread wouldn't be too far off the desired effect the RTE went for when booking these people.

mike65

Plays for QPR, no?

Mike

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Mr Alan wrote: »

i never deny that, i laugh my arse off when they are calling Ronaldo ****e etc etc, all the time i know they are wrong obviously, but i still find it funny-because they really think they are right.

but when they start being so brazenly ridiculous about the likes of Rafa, i do get seriously pissed off.

double standards much?

Mr Alan wrote: »

their job is NOT to annoy people.

are you the rte head of sport?

of course it is their job to piss people off. that is why they are still on tv.
Dunphy's been doing it since the seventies on football coverage for rte ffs.

Chong

You know who I admire most on RTE coverage is Souness, he is the only one of them thats knows anything, I really do appreciate his knowledge and views on the game.

Hated him as a player and manager but I like him a person.

Mr Alan

redout wrote: »

In fairness Dunphy seems to know a bit about the Spanish sides and claims to watch La liga every week

Dunphy likes to claim that, but he is lying.

He had no idea about anyone playing for Athletico, including their top players, the likes of Aguerro, Rodriguez.

Ironically enough, because of some of the hype surrounding them in preseason he tipped them as dark horses for the CL, obviously he had never seen them cause a few short weeks later he wrote them off as an awful team when they played Liverpool.

he changes his opinions all the time ridiculously without mention.

for example, in 2006/2007 he thought Gerrard was average, tonight he thought he was world class, when did that happen?

Warper

Funny the way Giles cannot pronounce half of the players names - Marciano (mascherano) or when hes totally lost on a player he justs calls him the "lad"

or you cannot afford to that against the top teams or
Ronaldo makes baby Jesus cry

LuckyLloyd

Mr Alan wrote: »

i never deny that, i laugh my arse off when they are calling Ronaldo ****e etc etc, all the time i know they are wrong obviously, but i still find it funny-because they really think they are right.

but when they start being so brazenly ridiculous about the likes of Rafa, i do get seriously pissed off.

they are just really bad at their jobs

they are not shock jockies, their job is NOT to annoy people.

if they are not intentionally trying to annoy people, well then they should be sacked for not being sufficently qualified to be a pundit for any match not involving any of the top 4 in England......they dont know players,managers, formations anything.....for lads picking up a few hundred grand a year, its shocking.

Wrong. The fact that you are whining about it here and giving them free publicity makes them excellent at their jobs. And contributes to CL coverage being a profitable endeavor for RTE.

Im_No_Superman

Des wrote: »

They know how to annoy fans of both Liverpool and Manchester United. End of.

The fact that Mr Alan started this thread is proof of that.

Frankly, I love seeing my mates getting so annoyed watching them.

I also love seeing posters on here getting annoyed by them.

Great fun, worth every penny of the licence fee my landlord pays.

Thats it in a nutshell imo.

Id love to meet Dunphys son because anytime he is called up on anything about Liverpool he says he knows what the real Liverpool fans are thinking sure his son is a real Liverpool fan! :rolleyes:

Everyweek its the same, when Man Utd are on its slam Ronaldo for 30/40 minutes. When Liverpool play its Benitiz is a poor manager, workman like players (Kuyt etc).

Very little (if any) analysis of the game is ever done.

oobydooby

The analysis is often better entertainment than the match. Even today.

Chong

Lads at the end of the day we dont need pundits, analysts, or commentators for what we can see ourselves FACT

None of us need to be told what goes on , we can chat about it with our mates and debate it here.

Those clowns on Sky , RTE and ITV mean sod all to me, ps BBC too.

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it's better with Bill though.

That cheese-meister Collins is cringeworthy. I wish he'd fúck off back to the formula one.

His damn voice

redout

Mr Alan wrote: »

Dunphy likes to claim that, but he is lying.

He had no idea about anyone playing for Athletico, including their top players, the likes of Aguerro, Rodriguez.

Again in fairness to Dunphy that is probably because Sky Sports usually only tend to show Barcelona and Real Madrid games the majority of the time. Every week at least one or usually both of their games is shown. Probably got to do with ratings.

Mr Alan

Des wrote: »

double standards much?

I admitted its a double standard. anyone who doesnt have double standards is a liar.

I'd imagine if Dunphy went on a massive rant about how **** irish league football was, how clueless its fans were etc etc, you wouldnt find it as "humerous" as when he riles up the barstoolers

Des wrote: »

are you the rte head of sport?

Pundit-"an expert or opinion-leader who analyzes events in an area of expertise in the popular media"

doesnt sound like any of the boys in the studio tonight tbh.

not aware of managerial achievments, not aware of transfer values, not aware of the opposition teams existance. i could go on.

Mr Alan

redout wrote: »

Again in fairness to Dunphy that is probably because Sky Sports usually only tend to show Barcelona and Real Madrid games the majority of the time. Every week at least one or usually both of their games is shown. Probably got to do with ratings.

i'd imagine a man in Eammons field has access to channels showing sporting events from all over the world.

if not, its his job, he should be watching tapes etc

Bet u enjoy when they rip into United Al!! They're wind up merchants, and good ones at that, I just tune out when they get ridiculous!

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but you still watch it every week.

and on the LoI thing.

meh, dunphy and giles have commented on it before, in fact, I read a book where they spoke in depth about it.

giles used to manage Rovers. Most of what they have to say about the Loi and the FAI I agree with.

mike65

Des wrote: »

That cheese-meister Collins is cringeworthy. I wish he'd fúck off back to the formula one.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! (RTE don't have F1 anymore)

Mike

Mr Alan

Des wrote: »

but you still watch it every week.

I'm a glutton for punishment

Mr Alan

Mr Alan wrote: »

They are a flaming disgrace.

tbh

Chong

Deleted User wrote: »

tbh

Legendary Neil!

MisterAnarchy

They are like Groundhog day.

If United are playing its
a)Ronaldo is a bad player,a pup.
b)Rooney is a great player ,great work rate and attitude. Scholes is another of their favourites.
Last night they were trying to blame Rooneys poor form on Ronaldo.Ridiculous.
They love Rooney despite the fact most people are realising now he is a grossly overrated player.

If Liverpool are playing they say
a)Liverpool cant maintain possession and keep giving the ball away
b)They are a lucky team
c)Benitez is a bad manager.
To be fair I think they have a point with Liverpool.
They are an awful team to watch and I'm sure most neutrals dont like watching them.

RTE's coverage is too focused on the English teams .
Tonight they are showing extended highlights of Bordeaux-Chelsea instead of showing equal highlights of all the other 7 matches .
Bill is always stirring it up too,he knows what he is doing letting Dunphy rant about Ronaldo and his Johnny Murtagh,Ruby Walsh ,****e analogy.

Vince135792003

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

RTE's coverage is too focused on the English teams .
.

RTE want to draw the biggest tv audience they can each week (resulting in greater ad revenue) and they do that by focusing on the British teams (typically Man United and Liverpool).

As for the RTE panel, the fact that threads like this one pop up every second week to me means they're actually doing their job.

OPENROAD

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RTE's coverage is too focused on the English teams .
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Of course it is, why would it not be

Funkyzeit

Well Dunphy reckons Drogba won't go to Inter as "Ivanisevic" is playing for them...quality...

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Funkyzeit wrote: »

Well Dunphy reckons Drogba won't go to Inter as "Ivanisevic" is playing for them...quality...

See...the names.

Always the names.

George Hamilton is another one.

MisterAnarchy

OPENROAD wrote: »

Of course it is, why would it not be

Because its a European competition supposedly showing the best teams in Europe.
We get to see the English teams every week of the season .

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MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Because its a European competition supposedly showing the best teams in Europe.
We get to see the English teams every week of the season .

Ratings, tbh.

OPENROAD

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Because its a European competition supposedly showing the best teams in Europe.
We get to see the English teams every week of the season .

They only have a certain amount of time to cover highlights, vast majority of Irish viewers are primarily interested in English teams therefore ratings.

One Cold Hand

Funkyzeit wrote: »

Well Dunphy reckons Drogba won't go to Inter as "Ivanisevic" is playing for them...quality...

Inter bought a washed up tennis star? Economic crisis must have hit Italy...

Boggles

I think the most shocking thing about tonight is how did this fella worm his way back in??? :eek:

Xavi6

Absolute legends. The lot of them. Only thing missing is Chippy.

May they live forever.

eirebhoy

Ronnie Whelan seems to have taken the place of Brady, for Ireland matches anyway. He's just a yes man for the other 2. Kevin Moran's a much better pundit imo.

Boggles

eirebhoy wrote: »

Ronnie Whelan seems to have taken the place of Brady, for Ireland matches anyway. He's just a yes man for the other 2. Kevin Moran's a much better pundit imo.

Whelan will find his own yet I think, the 2 boys were doing their Usual "Ronaldo is the cause of homelessness routine" the last time they were on, you could tell Whelan was getting sick of it.

Hopefully he explodes live some boring Tuesday night soon.