Kaka expresses interest in City

bigstar

this argument is pointless. in every league the biggest clubs are the clubs from big cities supported by big business. its always been there always will, now its just got to more ridiculous stage than before

keane2097

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Kaka expresses interest in City


So what's new with that?

bigstar

i think it wont happen, and that kind of money is rididculous plus i think hughes needs to stop looking for cash and start coaching the team properly

Xavi6

x in the city wrote: »

why stop at Kaka, why not sign the whole Milan team...?

makes economic sense in the current climate they could haggle a good deal on the entire Milan team.

They can being in CA for manager also.

RESULT!

Not really seeing as the majority of the Milan starting XI are in their early 30s. Hardly a good deal.

redout wrote: »

Does anyone know if its true that City and United players had the same charter back from South America during the last internationals ? I thought that I read something about that. Interesting if true.

Don't think it was United players, maybe only Anderson. Mascherano was definitely on the same plane back as Zabaleta and the Brazil boys. Maybe he's next on the list.

themont85 wrote: »

Ye but Man Utd and Liverpool earned their money by being run as succesful football clubs not by being bought up by some billionaire using it as a toy. Its their money which they earned, they can spend it on whatever they like, the same can't be said of City or Chelsea.

Remind me how much debt United are in.


Anyway, in summary -

Headshot

Xavi6 wrote: »

Remind me how much debt United are in.

yap utd are in big debt around 650 million but utd only pay back 43 million a yr
which is nothing to utd

thats what David Gill has said anyway

Utd downplay financial woes
2009-01-14 14:06
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David Gill

Macau - Manchester United chief executive David Gill on Wednesday said the club remained in a robust financial position despite worries over its huge debt and sponsorship deal with troubled insurance giant AIG.

Gill insisted the ongoing economic crisis had so far had little impact on the club's finances, and that its revenue streams remained consistent in the face of the global slowdown.

"We are not complacent and we understand the issues in the world are such that we cannot expect to be immune from them," Gill said during a trip to Macau to unveil details of this year's Asian tour.

"At the same time, we have a robust business plan," he said, adding "football is only going to get bigger."

Gill said United was paying around 43 million pounds a year to service its huge debt of 660 million pounds, which was created when US owner Malcolm Glazer moved to buy up the club in a controversial swoop in 2005.

Some analysts have worried that United could struggle to service its heavy debts as global credit markets contracted, but Gill said the annual payments were expected to remain consistent for the next few years as the financing was organised relatively recently, in 2006.

He added sales of season tickets and executive boxes had also stood up to the downturn, and that he was expecting improvements in the television income from the UEFA Champions' League which is currently being renegotiated.

Gill added there had been no moves from shirt sponsor American International Group (AIG) to pull its 56.5 million pound deal early, despite the US government having to rescue the ailing firm last year.

He conceded it was "more than likely" AIG would not renew the deal when it expires in 18 months' time, but said there were plenty of potential suitors.

"We think, given there is only one piece of real estate on the shirt, we think it is a very attractive proposition," he said.

"There are many companies around the world who would like to have that association."

Manchester United will head to Asia in July for a pre-season tour with games in China, South Korea, Malaysia and the club's first ever game in Indonesia, Gill said.

The tour, alongside a permanent Manchester United exhibition and store in the Venetian casino in Macau, showed the club's commitment to Asia, Gill said, and how important the region was for the growth of the Premier League.

Gill said there were an estimated 12 million fans in Indonesia, which had prompted the trip to Jakarta. United were last in Asia in December when they won the Club World Cup in Japan.

Gill said the thorny of issue of what happens when Alex Ferguson retires was not at the forefront of his mind, but that it was important to learn from the mistakes made by the club when legendary manager Matt Busby left.

"If you wind the clock back to when Matt retired... the team was on the wane. George (Best), Denis (Law), and Bobby (Charlton) were towards the latter part of their careers as opposed to the peak of their careers," he said, adding it was important to have young players to hand over to the next manager.

String

The best thing city are going to get from Kaka is not the way he plays imo. He is a huge role model figure. He loves football and his club and loves a project. He will stay at the club for a very long time and will get involved in the community and try to win over the fans on and off the pitch. When he does sign (he will defo be a man city player by end of summer) its going to attract so much more players. I have a feeling city have a few big names that have agreed terms but are wanting proof man city are ambitious. As soon as Kaka signs watch them all follow. Thats worth £100 million for man city tbh.

Headshot

DrMorphine wrote: »

The best thing city are going to get from Kaka is not the way he plays imo. He is a huge role model figure. He loves football and his club and loves a project. He will stay at the club for a very long time and will get involved in the community and try to win over the fans on and off the pitch. When he does sign (he will defo be a man city player by end of summer) its going to attract so much more players. I have a feeling city have a few big names that have agreed terms but are wanting proof man city are ambitious. As soon as Kaka signs watch them all follow. Thats worth £100 million tbh.

how is he a role model when he only leaves for money
(if he leaves)

String

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

how is he a role model when he only leaves for money
(if he leaves)

He isnt leaving for money. He is leaving because MILAN want the money. They will tell him that the money will help the club and he will want to move. He wouldnt leave if milan didnt want him to. He is too dedicated. He is not going to notice an extra 5million a year or whatever

mayordenis

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

how is he a role model when he only leaves for money
(if he leaves)

because he's dynamite on the pitch,
he accepted a move knowing the money was just to good for Milan,
He wants to be part of what has the potential to be a great team, with himself and Robinho laying the foundation the attraction for everyone else will be there.

themont85

Xavi6 wrote: »

Remind me how much debt United are in

Not through bad business practise but by being taken over, completely different situation. Man Utd made their money by being smart on and of the pitch, thats why a guy like Glazer bought them to milk the cow so to speak. This is the complete opposite to City or Chelsea which are toys.

Also if Ambramovich fecks of from Chelsea tomorrow, Chelsea wouldn't have a hope of servicing their debt. Man Utd can because they are a well run football club.

Xavi6

keane2097

I don't know what this nonsense about people "losing respect for Kaka" is all about.

If someone offered me a half million a week to kill babies I'd take it.

At Man City Kaka would have the chance to be part of the most exciting project probably ever to happen in world soccer, and people are saying they'd lose respect for him if he goes for it.

Absolutely foolish imo.

Iang87

i'm a liverpool fan xavi6 and i really hope thats a sneak peek to the future. is itv lookin very good ya that ye will get him

Iang87

keane2097 wrote: »

I don't know what this nonsense about people "losing respect for Kaka" is all about.

If someone offered me a half million a week to kill babies I'd take it.

At Man City Kaka would have the chance to be part of the most exciting project probably ever to happen in world soccer, and people are saying they'd lose respect for him if he goes for it.

Absolutely foolish imo.

ya man you're right i wonder if it was chelski would they still say that

keane2097

Iang87 wrote: »

ya man you're right i wonder if it was chelski would they still say that

Yeah probably not - people forget the fact that it's two UEFA Cup teams we're talking about like...

Bounty Hunter

DrMorphine wrote: »

He isnt leaving for money. He is leaving because MILAN want the money. They will tell him that the money will help the club and he will want to move. He wouldnt leave if milan didnt want him to. He is too dedicated. He is not going to notice an extra 5million a year or whatever

closer to 5m every two months but still

Iang87

keane2097 wrote: »

Yeah probably not - people forget the fact that it's two UEFA Cup teams we're talking about like...

exactly and one of them got a massive slice of luck with not gettin relegated a few years back which would have seen the end of Kaka and Milan also no Champs League title in 07

redout

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

how is he a role model when he only leaves for money
(if he leaves)

He gives 10% of his wages to his church in Brazil. Now in my opinion thats nuts but a very nice gesture all the same. He is also a UN ambassador for food for all or something like that. A very nice guy seemingly.

Tom65

I'm a big fan of Kaka, so even if it is with City, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the Premier League. I'd still be suprised to see it happen. Then again, it'll just make United beating them more satisfying :P

Warper wrote: »

Whats always funny is when you hear Man Utd fans complain of teams trying to buy the League - oh the irony.

Current team -

Rooney - 25m
Berbatov - 32m
Tevez - 25m (altough not bought yet)
Carrick - 16m
Ferdinand - 20m
Nani - 15m
Anderson - 15m
Ronaldo - 15m
Vidic - 7m
Evra - 10m
2 young Serb kids - 17m

Buy the league - Utd no way, Arsenal are the only Premiership team that won it without buying it

You didn't mention Scholes, Giggs, Fletcher, Gary Neville, Brown, and O'Shea (not to mention Beckham, Phil Neville, and Nicky Butt)? That's weird!

Melion

Will he be succesful in the premiership?

Just in from work and i see they've bid £107m, what the fúck?? That would get them Messi and Villa with change left over

carlop

Who would have predicted a year ago that Darius Vassel and Kaka would be playing fo the same team.

Next shock: Berlusconi decides to divide the 100 million between every Italian citizen as a thank you for being elected. He throws in an extra 20 million so every Italian gets 2 million. Thats how to beat a recession!

Bubs101

carlop wrote: »

Next shock: Berlusconi decides to divide the 100 million between every Italian citizen as a thank you for being elected. He throws in an extra 20 million so every Italian gets 2 million. Thats how to beat a recession!

120 million euros divided by 60 million people= 2 million

2+2= 241247934719

Xavi6

themont85

Danny Mills is still on the books with City as well iirc. Mad stuff altogether.

ShoulderChip

carlop wrote: »

Who would have predicted a year ago that Darius Vassel and Kaka would be playing fo the same team.

Next shock: Berlusconi decides to divide the 100 million between every Italian citizen as a thank you for being elected. He throws in an extra 20 million so every Italian gets 2 million. Thats how to beat a recession!

I think there are more than 60 Italians dude.

Seaneh

LEAVE RICKY THE FU*K ALONE!!!!!!!!!

keane2097

carlop wrote: »

Who would have predicted a year ago that Darius Vassel and Kaka would be playing fo the same team.

Next shock: Berlusconi decides to divide the 100 million between every Italian citizen as a thank you for being elected. He throws in an extra 20 million so every Italian gets 2 million. Thats how to beat a recession!

Epic fail imo.

Unearthly

I reckon he is off

He was interviewed there and was saying he'd only leave if Milan wanted to sell. They clearly would if the bid is 107 million

That's some crazy fantasy football sh!t right there

keane2097

Unearthly wrote: »

I reckon he is off

He was interviewed there and was saying he'd only leave if Milan wanted to sell. They clearly would if the bid is 107 million

That's some crazy fantasy football sh!t right there

Linky?

Unearthly

keane2097 wrote: »

Linky?

Sky sports news

was being interviewed when he was in his car

Pighead

I reckon this whole Kaka saga could well put an itch back in Mr Ronaldos dazzling feet.

He's at home now watching the coverage thinking "Little Brazilian cnut. The week that I am crowned the best footballer on the planet is being overshadowed by that Milanese has been. If he's worth 100 Million then I am worth 200 million. Time to give my agent a call"

Xavi6

So what you're saying is 'Ronaldo to City'?

keane2097

Pighead wrote: »

I reckon this whole Kaka saga could well put an itch back in Mr Ronaldos dazzling feet.

He's at home now watching the coverage thinking "Little Brazilian cnut. The week that I am crowned the best footballer on the planet is being overshadowed by that Milanese has been. If he's worth 100 Million then I am worth 200 million. Time to give my agent a call"

Pish-posh imo.

carlop

keane2097 wrote: »

Epic fail imo.

Dear christ I truly am retarded. And to think I got an A in Leaving Cert maths...and geography. Ah well, 2e a head it is. Someone please post an epic fail pic, its deserved.

Pighead

keane2097 wrote: »

Pish-posh imo.

Pish-posh my well toned hairy arse. Pighead speaks the truth. Do you honestly not think Ronaldo will be the slightest bit jealous about this. Course he will. And I don't blame him. Rivalry at the very top should always be fuelled with the need to be bigger better faster stronger than your opponent.

Daysha

Pighead wrote: »

Pish-posh my well toned hairy arse. Pighead speaks the truth. Do you honestly not think Ronaldo will be the slightest bit jealous about this. Course he will. And I don't blame him. Rivalry at the very top should always be fuelled with the need to be bigger better faster stronger than your opponent.

When Ronaldo picks up more winners medals in May while Kaka's warming up pitch side at Fratton Park in a relegation 6 pointer, he'll be perfectly happy with how it all turned out.

keane2097

Pighead wrote: »

Pish-posh my well toned hairy arse. Pighead speaks the truth. Do you honestly not think Ronaldo will be the slightest bit jealous about this. Course he will. And I don't blame him. Rivalry at the very top should always be fuelled with the need to be bigger better faster stronger than your opponent.

I think there's a difference between being jealous about someone else getting attention when he should be and deciding he wants to up sticks and move club.

And we should leave your arse in AH where it belongs imo.

mayordenis

deise59 wrote: »

When Ronaldo picks up more winners medals in May while Kaka's warming up pitch side at Fratton Park in a relegation 6 pointer, he'll be perfectly happy with how it all turned out.

sour grapes
Kaka can console himself by being a better footballer and a better person and being payed 5 times more.

keane2097

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead will post wherever he wants to post keane2097. Who are you to say otherwise? You've just made this poster very angry.

keane2097, you're a liar... you're a fcuking wanker. I don't rate you as a poster, I don't rate you as a thread starter, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a fcuking wanker and you can stick your soccer forum opinions up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are a member of this soccer forum! You can stick it up your bollocks.

I only made a joke about you mentioning your arse is all...

I suggest a duel to solve our differences - we stand at either end of the internet and throw our keyboards at one another and whoever cries first loses (or wins if you like).

Also, lol at the bits in bold (especially the word "dealings") :eek::pac:

EDIT: Apologies for making it seem like I didn't think you should post in soccer, and massive respect for the Roy Keane reference...

EDIT2: Is it too early to suggest a "Post of the Year"?

Iang87

hahahahahahahahaha, good old laugh at 2:15 in the mornin. absolutely brilliant

So kaka to city ya anybody any views

Xavi6

Pighead banned. keane 2097, while your post may have been intended as a joke it could easily be perceived to be inflammatory. Just be careful.

Please leave it at that. Any more OT replies will be met with infractions.

Kaka - srs biznis

Daysha

mayordenis wrote: »

sour grapes
Kaka can console himself by being a better footballer and a better person and being payed 5 times more.

How exactly is it sour grapes? Pighead said that Ronaldo would be jealous because he didn't want to be upstaged as "the worlds best footballer". I resented this. Yes I think that, like anyone else on this planet, I'd be jealous of someone getting paid in a minute what I get in a full days work, but thats just common human traits.

I think Ronaldos better than Kaka, you don't. Fair enough. But don't make it seem like sour grapes every time I try to back him up.

Iang87

deise59 wrote: »

How exactly is it sour grapes? Pighead said that Ronaldo would be jealous because he didn't want to be upstaged as "the worlds best footballer". I resented this. Yes I think that, like anyone else on this planet, I'd be jealous of someone getting paid in a minute what I get in a full days work, but thats just common human traits.

I think Ronaldos better than Kaka, you don't. Fair enough. But don't make it seem like sour grapes every time I try to back him up.

to be honest i dont agree with the ronaldo better but in saying that i dont think they can be compared, they're not alike really in my view. He's more of a gerrard or lampard style player. maybe even more of a paul scholes if he just had an extra bit of piece.

Insect Overlord

Eh, mods, I don't think Pighead was trying to be abusive there. It's a paraphrasing of the Roy Keane rant in Saipan...

Moving swiftly on, £100m is a disgusting amount of money to spend on one transfer. Kaka is good, but nobody is £100m good.

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sorry, I posted this before I read the warning

An File

An File wrote: »

Eh, mods, I don't think Pighead was trying to be abusive there. It's a paraphrasing of the Roy Keane rant in Saipan...

Moving swiftly on, £100m is a disgusting amount of money to spend on one transfer. Kaka is good, but only Phil Babb is £100m good.

edit/
sorry, I posted this before I read the warning

FYP

x in the city

kaka and dunne in the same team takes some getting used to.......

x in the city

Phil Babb lmao

Robbie Keane must have had 100million in transfers by now, would he not fit the bill....?

surplus to requirements for raffa also

redout

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead will post wherever he wants to post keane2097. Who are you to say otherwise? You've just made this poster very angry.

keane2097, you're a liar... you're a fcuking wanker. I don't rate you as a poster, I don't rate you as a thread starter, and I don't rate you as a person. You're a fcuking wanker and you can stick your soccer forum opinions up your arse. The only reason I have any dealings with you is that somehow you are a member of this soccer forum! You can stick it up your bollocks.

Remnants of Keano in Saipan anyone ?:)


Kaka against Ronaldo later this season. I cant wait.

LuckyLloyd

So, he hasn't been transferred yet then?

Bounty Hunter

its the whole you can stick that up your bollicks part that says to me its that memorable quote .

Kaka will get paid roughly £26m a year in wages after tax if this goes ahead