The Manchester Derby - City vs United Match Thread

LuckyLloyd

ntlbell wrote: »

no one's attacking him for the yellow on ronaldo for the handball

the first one was never a yellow

rafael's was never a yellow

it's his over all performance has been terrible

IN YOUR OPINION.

I think he's been fine. And, crucially, I imagine this performance will be adjudged as standard by his refereeing review committee.

ntlbell

D.S. wrote: »

F88k it, he's gone. Intentionally handballed it. No matter what he heard, whether he deserved the first one or not. He deserved the card for being a git.

Meanwhile, worried that United are getting pushed off the ball right now.

Plus giggs is coming on. Not happy - why not anderson??

because fletcher and carrick are playing well?

Spud83

D.S. wrote: »

Plus giggs is coming on. Not happy - why not anderson??

ON the off chance Giggs shows some of his experience and calms things down when we have the ball.

ntlbell

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

IN YOUR OPINION.

I think he's been fine. And, crucially, I imagine this performance will be adjudged as standard by his refereeing review committee.

obviously it's my opinion,

it's an internet soccer forum thats what we give

do you want to play more ray houghton and point anything else blindlingly obvious

just for good measure

D.S.

ntlbell wrote: »

because fletcher and carrick are playing well?

Absolutely. But if Berba needs to come off. Why not leave Rooney up top and put some more lungs in midfield where we are getting hurt..

Raskolnikov

Carrick booked, United could yet lose another player.

ROCKMAN

RasTa wrote: »

How's it looking anyway? City all over us, who have we brought on to replace?

Better than you think , Alot of ball been lost in their half to be expected, not great pressure and Utd look a bit dangerous on the break just a lack of bodies in these breaks.Pressure will build imo 5 MINS COME ON

PHB

Can anybody tell me what the assistant ref gave a foul for there? What the ****?

D.S.

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

ON the off chance Giggs shows some of his experience and calms things down when we have the ball.

Giggs has been off form so far this season.

ziggy

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LuckyLloyd

ntlbell wrote: »

one week and not the next more news at 4

Yes, but this is what it should be every week though.

ntlbell

D.S. wrote: »

Absolutely. But if Berba needs to come off. Why not leave Rooney up top and put some more lungs in midfield where we are getting hurt..

because giggs will bulk up the defending on the wing and offer a good outball

carrick fletch and anderson would leave rooney with little or no support

Trizo

wtf did anyone else see that free against rafael ?? thats bizarre ....

PHB

Giggs is playing up front, as to be expected. We're playing 4-5-0

ntlbell

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yes, but this is what it should be every week though.

yep i want to see young kids getting carded for nothing every week and then not carding someone for doing exactly the same thing 5 mins later

shows them who's boss early on :rolleyes:

Raskolnikov

Michael Carrick is the player that Elano so desperately wants to be. Dominated central midfield today. My man of the match.

Chong

Tbh I think strangely Linesman was right, rafa had all of robinhos jersey.

Spud83

D.S. wrote: »

Giggs has been off form so far this season.

Yes but what we need is cool heads now. And just some concentration for the last few minutes. Anderson would not bring that, he would come on all action and prob cause problems.

titan18

ziggy wrote: »

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what i mean is that even though it was an intentional handball, he wasnt trying to get an advantage with it, its clear that he heard something and stopped playing, why else would he do it?As stupid as he is, he aint thst stupid.

Chong

Cacking myself here.

ntlbell

giggs should of sat on his arse for a few mins there

Spud83

titan18 wrote: »

what i mean is that even though it was an intentional handball, he wasnt trying to get an advantage with it, its clear that he heard something and stopped playing, why else would he do it?As stupid as he is, he aint thst stupid.

a lot refs don't care about the "why" the only care about the act.

ntlbell

keeper up lolz

Frisbee

titan18 wrote: »

what i mean is that even though it was an intentional handball, he wasnt trying to get an advantage with it, its clear that he heard something and stopped playing, why else would he do it?As stupid as he is, he aint thst stupid.

He did hear something.
He went into the press booth after to watch the replay.
He insisted he heard a 'beep'

And to be honest I gotta believe him, there's no other reason he'd do what he did.

Beau x1

Haha that was entertaining.

ntlbell

looolz


what a save

Raskolnikov

Close from City.

Frisbee

Great work Joe Hart!

Spud83

Jesus Giggs should have given it to him earlier to hit that.

Dave!

rofl danger

RasTa

FFS just blow up, this is worse then watching.

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well City, time to see what you are all about now.

Not a whole lot then.

Cool. No shape or purpose in the last twenty minutes. If Hamman had been on it would have been a huge help I think. Elano was pretty awful.

United had far too easy a time of it when they went down to 10 men.

ghouldaddy07

brilliant wish he had gotten that.

Chong

COME ON UNITED

FUPPING DELIGHTED, Harsh XAVI, BUT PAYBACK IS SOOOOOOO Sweet.

Dave!

excellent!

f*cking relief

ntlbell

wayne rooney wayne rooney wayne rooney

would of like to see stephen ireland in the side today

was he injured lol

wayne rooney, wayne rooney..

PHB

Fantastic performance from United today, fantastic. Utterly dominated the game beyond belief, even when we went down to 10 men. Pressure on Chelsea and Liverpool now.

Spud83

3 points decent performance both in the first half and when we had to battle in the second.

Carrick MOTM for me.

I will now run away and let this thread descend into the Ronaldo is an idiot v The ref is an idiot debate.

RasTa

Now back to work, C'mon West Ham and Arsenal.

A Dub in Glasgo

PHB wrote: »

No idea what the hell Ronaldo was doing there. But there's no way anyone could construe that as Ronaldo trying to manipulate the ball into the goal. It wasn't subtle in the slightest. No idea what he was doing. Absurd and it could cost us.

BBC wrote:

1459: SENDING OFF (Cristiano Ronaldo, Manchester United)
Had to go, silly, silly boy. Wayne Rooney sends over a corner from the right and Cristiano Ronaldo leaps, mis-times his jump, and pats the ball out of play with his hands. He's very, very upset, but deliberate handball, he had to go. A strange moment.

Sounds like Ronaldo was in total control of that 2nd yellow and knew he would be off.

ghouldaddy07

Get in there.

Red card aside delighted we got the result not just for the points but after they beat us on the munich anniversery I really wanted a result against them.

eZe^

I guess I was expecting too much when I thought this would be a good spectacle between two evenly enough matched sides. Meh, Utd were by far the better team.

PHB

Jeff summed it up. You get booked if you were seeking to gain an advantage. Ronaldo was clearly not seeking to gain an advantage. That's that.

LuckyLloyd

Frisbee wrote: »

He did hear something.
He went into the press booth after to watch the replay.
He insisted he heard a 'beep'

And to be honest I gotta believe him, there's no other reason he'd do what he did.

They just showed a replay again there. The whistle comes about a second or so after he handles it.

ziggy

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PHB

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Sounds like Ronaldo was in total control of that 2nd yellow and knew he would be off.

I'm sorry, were you watching it? Or are you dismissing it based on what BBC text says?

Raskolnikov

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Carrick MOTM for me.

Yep. No razz-ma-tazz or theatrics. Retained possession brilliantly. Passing and crossing was second to none.

Like I said, he's everything that donkey Elano wants to be.

Frisbee

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

They just showed a replay again there. The whistle comes about a second or so after he handles it.

There's a really loud foghorn that goes off just before and during.
That's all I can think of it being...

Chong

I dont care about Ronaldo .

I care about beating City after last seasons results. I care about the excellent performances by Roon, Park, Evra, Rafa, Rio , Vida, & for me MOTM Michael Carrick.

PHB

Ruud is quite the debator