Do you like funky house?

copeyhagen

haha your probably right, i am lucky enough to have my portable hard drive in work with couple of hundred live sets on it.

currently listening to James_Holden___4_Years_of_Full_Spectrum_19-9-08_pt_2.mp3

yes, his mixing may be a little dodgy sometimes but the tracks he plays must be near impossible to mix.

sorry getting off topic, go back to posting funky darylea hehe

seannash

im gonna stop now,ive embarrased myself enough

Executive Steve

i can't decide whether i hate the genre more than the name or vice versa tbh...

criminally unambitious lowest common denominator music, that sounds non threatening blasting out of the speakers at toni and guy on a sturday afternoon and doesnt' demand too much attention to be danced to later that evening in the club

Scubadevils

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

i can't decide whether i hate the genre more than the name or vice versa tbh...

criminally unambitious lowest common denominator music, that sounds non threatening blasting out of the speakers at toni and guy on a sturday afternoon and doesnt' demand too much attention to be danced to later that evening in the club

The onslaught just gets better!

So is this what Hed Kandi is all about then? - The covers alone made my stomach churn when I've seen them about.

seannash

copeyhagen wrote: »

haha your probably right, i am lucky enough to have my portable hard drive in work with couple of hundred live sets on it.

currently listening to James_Holden___4_Years_of_Full_Spectrum_19-9-08_pt_2.mp3

yes, his mixing may be a little dodgy sometimes but the tracks he plays must be near impossible to mix.

sorry getting off topic, go back to posting funky darylea hehe

i know its off topic but the only james holden track i own is a vinyl copy of one for you but i can remeber the mix of it i like.it wasnt the original or the remix on youtube,it was immense though.ill have to dig it out i think

copeyhagen

aw i love his sound and the border community sound. think theyre at the forefront of dance music for the last 3 or 4 years, playing a fairly unique brand of music.

anyways to get back on topic, isnt hed kandi just a brand name now, that any old gob****es can have a hed kandi night as long as they pay for the name, as in anybody can dj under the hed kandi guise.

seannash

never mind it was the oliver klein mix,savage remix.
carry on now
(hopefully i redeemed myself with the name drop ha ha)

BaZmO*

Helix wrote: »

i still deny that funky house is a genre

its house, because house is funky as a rule, the offshoots of house tend to lose the funk alrite, but funky house is like saying electronic techno imo

I'd tend to agree with that.

I'd be a big fan of house music that has a funky sound to it, always have, but not what would be considered Funky House nowadays.

I think nowadays Funky House is just a label to describe the cheesier end of the dance market. Just look at any "Funky House" chart and it just tends full of more Stilton than you find in an English food market. And I also think that people that don't like dance music with vocals would tend to call it Funky House which is generally wrong imo.

Entec

jtsuited wrote: »

I absolutely hate it.

Brash, commercial, unsophisticated, cheesy, lowest common denominator music designed for plastic nightclubs and the great unwashed.

Lacking depth, intellectually devoid, and aestethically repulsive.Musically infantile, sonically cliched, and disgustingly superficial.

Well you asked for opinions!

thats the best discription of minimal i have heard.

BaZmO*

Entec wrote: »

thats the best discription of minimal i have heard.

Haha. Touché

ntlbell

This whole thread is starting to remind me of listening to my mother complaining about that "bang bang bang stuff you call music"

copeyhagen

"will ya lower that pots and pans ****e down"

Fintomiginto

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'd tend to agree with that.

I'd be a big fan of house music that has a funky sound to it, always have, but not what would be considered Funky House nowadays.

I think nowadays Funky House is just a label to describe the cheesier end of the dance market. Just look at any "Funky House" chart and it just tends full of more Stilton than you find in an English food market. And I also think that people that don't like dance music with vocals would tend to call it Funky House which is generally wrong imo.

Agree with all of the above, I hate the term "funky house", it must be the gayest description of a musical genre that was ever coined. I love house music, in its purest form. Im not into minimal at all but would be partial to a bit of tech house or some progressive. I know this is gona sound a bit cliched but I think house music should make you want to dance and put a smile on your face whereas the likes of minimal does the total opposite to me.

jonny68

ntlbell wrote: »

This whole thread is starting to remind me of listening to my mother complaining about that "bang bang bang stuff you call music"

yeah me and all that's why i said enough is enough unreal:D

jonny68

Entec wrote: »

thats the best discription of minimal i have heard.

:D:D

Entec

jonny68 wrote: »

:D:D

jonny68

:D

francois

jonny68 wrote: »

:D

feckin thievein horsy bastids
I wanna hear some funky dubdeathhousetechnodrmandbasstriptranceminimaldetroitunceunceuncethumpthumpmymahtesthisitallsoundslikeelectronicmusictomecore

Executive Steve

having said that i always get really suspicious when people slate something for being "intellectually devoid" as if their chosen drug sountrack is somehow superior because it's "clever"

i don't distrust "funky house" because it's not "clever" i distrust it because you hear it in shops where girls buy clothes.

BaZmO*

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

i don't distrust "funky house" because it's not "clever" i distrust it because you hear it in shops where girls buy clothes.

Jaysis that's a crap reason to "distrust it" I've heard plenty of DnB in clothes shops. And some of them even had women in them. :eek:

jtsuited

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

having said that i always get really suspicious when people slate something for being "intellectually devoid" as if their chosen drug sountrack is somehow superior because it's "clever"

i don't distrust "funky house" because it's not "clever" i distrust it because you hear it in shops where girls buy clothes.

well i distrust it because it's not clever!

so there:D

and in comparison to a lot of electronic music it is intellectually devoid.

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

and in comparison to a lot of electronic music it is intellectually devoid.

That comment is as bad as Jonny's "connoisseur" comment. For shame

Scubadevils

BaZmO* wrote: »

I'd tend to agree with that.

I'd be a big fan of house music that has a funky sound to it, always have, but not what would be considered Funky House nowadays.

I think nowadays Funky House is just a label to describe the cheesier end of the dance market. Just look at any "Funky House" chart and it just tends full of more Stilton than you find in an English food market. And I also think that people that don't like dance music with vocals would tend to call it Funky House which is generally wrong imo.

Yeah I actually like house with vocals and assumed 'funky house' was another thing altogether - hence my reference to Hed Kandi etc.

Can anyone please post some good examples of 'funky house'? Even if it is from the Hed Kandi era! Basically, what is funky house and when did it start?!

Scubadevils

jtsuited wrote: »

well i distrust it because it's not clever!

so there:D

and in comparison to a lot of electronic music it is intellectually devoid.

Define 'intellectual' music so... kinda reminds me of an old 'IDM' debate :pac: (which is a tag I don't actually like, but do love the music it can be tagged to).

RaverRo808

I do and I dont,some of it can be very irritating and annoying,and scene that goes with it I abhor,but some tunes I have give credit,there worth a spin

Executive Steve

BaZmO* wrote: »

Jaysis that's a crap reason to "distrust it" I've heard plenty of DnB in clothes shops. And some of them even had women in them. :eek:

On further reflection you're pretty much right, my objection still stands though...

Fintomiginto

Heres a couple of good "funky house" tunes imo. I ****in hate that term.

Funky Green Dogs " Reach for me"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY9KbaKuito

Liberty City "If you really love someone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X219MCmm2S0&feature=related

IMO the murk label is the best label for releasing the funky side of house music.

Agent Sumo "24 Hours"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqfDUzFWriI

Who Da funk? "Sting me Red"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1KKPQNQhG4

The Lisa Marie Experience "Do that to me"(part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6zaJ1_fWY

jtsuited

Felixdhc wrote: »

Define 'intellectual' music so... kinda reminds me of an old 'IDM' debate :pac: (which is a tag I don't actually like, but do love the music it can be tagged to).

argh here we go again. ok to clarify, and to wind up a few people too, imo it is intellectually devoid. As in it does not appeal to the intellect whatsoever. And in fact I find it insulting to my intellect as an an artform.

Yeah it's an intellectually snobby view to have, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't an intellectual snob.

At least I'm being honest about it though.

oh and what i'm saying is pretty much like saying it's hairdresser music. just i'm using more concrete terms.

Helix

jtsuited wrote: »

imo it is intellectually devoid.

so is the vast majority of dance music

ntlbell

jtsuited wrote: »

And in fact I find it insulting to my intellect as an an artform.

Yeah it's an intellectually snobby view to have, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't an intellectual snob.
.

I'm finding it hard to reply to this without getting banned.

brianc27

i think i detest funky house so much these days (bar the fact that its ****) is because of the dregs of society it attracts, if anyone was ever unfortunate enough to stumble into the upstairs of traffic (when it was still around) on a friday or saturday you'd know what i was talking about, dity filty knackers, horrible gays and fat hairdressers, same with the white horse.

i find the type of music reflects on the people that listen to it, sh*t music is listened to by sh*t people (generally speaking of course)

pansoul

Jtsuited, you really think funky house fans would be wound-up if you told them it wasn't intellectual? Let me guess - as well as being a self-professed intellectual snob you have a predilection for building straw-men?

Besmirching funky house with "it's not intellectual enough" is like saying a football match was sh1t because no tries were scored -- it's so naturally true, obvious and expected that it's meaningless, and more appropriately refuted with a sarcastic loud guffaw and slap across the head than a reasoned argument.


For the record, I don't really like funky houses, simple old cottage does me fine. I'd love a nice chateau though all the same.

ntlbell

brianc27 wrote: »

i think i detest funky house so much these days (bar the fact that its ****) is because of the dregs of society it attracts, if anyone was ever unfortunate enough to stumble into the upstairs of traffic (when it was still around) on a friday or saturday you'd know what i was talking about, dity filty knackers, horrible gays and fat hairdressers, same with the white horse.

i find the type of music reflects on the people that listen to it, sh*t music is listened to by sh*t people (generally speaking of course)

Disliking or liking any music based on the type of people who listen to it is ridiculous.

You don't "choose" what music you like it "chooses" you. you can't adjust your ears to dislike something, your ears don't know some scumbag in ballymun just bought the record.

you either like a tune or you don't brushing off a whole "genre" even tho it's not really a genre in itself based on who buys the record is what 13yr old kids do wearing nirvana t-shirts at the central bank.

If anyone else is going to post in this thread before you type.

think. Am i going to say something so ****ing stupid i'll look like a complete moron. if the answer is yes, refrain from hitting "submit reply" do us all a favour.

brianc27

ntlbell wrote: »

You don't "choose" what music you like it "chooses" you. you can't adjust your ears to dislike something, your ears don't know some scumbag in ballymun just bought the record.

music doesnt choose you for gods sake, someone with a good ear for music chooses to listen to good music.

seannash

brianc27 wrote: »

music doesnt choose you for gods sake, someone with a good ear for music chooses to listen to good music.

yep agree,its only in the past 2 years that ive developed a liking for minimal.when it first came out i wasnt a real fan of it.i didnt get it but i decided to give it a chance and looked about for some good tracks and grew to really like it.

ntlbell

brianc27 wrote: »

music doesnt choose you for gods sake, someone with a good ear for music chooses to listen to good music.

It doesn't?

so you control what music you like?

How does that work? do you stare at the cd cover and go "i will like you" and you like it?

what if it's technically sound but it doesn't move you? who decides if you have a good ear for music or not?

if there's bands someone who apparently has a very good ear for music likes and i don't like them do i have a bad ear for music?

What if Brian Eno listened to westlife would he have a bad ear for music?

you don't make a technical decision to like something? you have no control over what moves you or doesn't

so not liking something because of others who listen to it is probably one of the most retarded statements ever.

"i'm not going to like this song"

"why"

"i seen some chav listening to it"

Right.

Can we hear more from you please.

seannash

ntlbell wrote: »

It doesn't?

so you control what music you like?

How does that work? do you stare at the cd cover and go "i will like you" and you like it?

what if it's technically sound but it doesn't move you? who decides if you have a good ear for music or not?

if there's bands someone who apparently has a very good ear for music likes and i don't like them do i have a bad ear for music?

What if Brian Eno listened to westlife would he have a bad ear for music?

you don't make a technical decision to like something? you have no control over what moves you or doesn't

so not liking something because of others who listen to it is probably one of the most retarded statements ever.

"i'm not going to like this song"

"why"

"i seen some chav listening to it"

Right.

Can we hear more from you please.

thought you werent gonna post in this thread again

he never said anything about not listening because other people listened to it.
im positive that most people on here have had the experience of hearing a song on the radio and not being"moved":rolleyes:
the after hearing it for a few more times get into it.
this is partly due to hearing it so often but you also develope a taste for the track.you dont like it in the begining but then you grow to think its alright.
same way you can sometimes not like a track but then if you hear it out in a club you can appreciate the impact it has and it puts the track in a whole new light

ntlbell

seannash wrote: »

thought you werent gonna post in this thread again

he never said anything about not listening because other people listened to it.
im positive that most people on here have had the experience of hearing a song on the radio and not being"moved":rolleyes:
the after hearing it for a few more times get into it.
this is partly due to hearing it so often but you also develope a taste for the track.you dont like it in the begining but then you grow to think its alright.
same way you can sometimes not like a track but then if you hear it out in a club you can appreciate the impact it has and it puts the track in a whole new light

oh no?

"i think i detest funky house so much these days (bar the fact that its ****) is because of the dregs of society it attracts"

if a song is some what "challenging" and you have to listen to it a few times t you still aren't making a decision, the only decision you make is to listen you don't go "I'm going to like it" or "i won't like it"

if it does grow on you, you don't actively decide and make that decision you'll either like it or not you can't control if you do or not

i can't see why this concept is so confusing...

Irlbo

One word ''Popcorn'',if you've been there,you know what Im talking about

seannash

its not a concept its your point of view.and other people dont agree with you.
if it works for you cool but it obviously isnt as black and white for other people.
i never said my examples were about challenging songs.there have been songs ive heard that i didnt like in the begining but ive either heard it out or have herd it a few times and ive liked them after a while.
your saying people cant change there opinions about music.
im sure weve all bought tracks thinking that yeah thats a good one then get it home(vinyl im talking about now)only to discover its not as good as you had thought in the shop.

BaZmO*

seannash wrote: »

your saying people cant change there opinions about music.

I don't think he's saying that at all. He's just saying that you can't make yourself like or dislike something. Although, you can grow to like or dislike something.

For example, I don't particularly like Country Music but every now and then I might hear a Country song that I like (doesn't happen very often mind!) but the fact is I can't control whether I like it not.

ntlbell

seannash wrote: »

its not a concept its your point of view.and other people dont agree with you.
if it works for you cool but it obviously isnt as black and white for other people.
i never said my examples were about challenging songs.there have been songs ive heard that i didnt like in the begining but ive either heard it out or have herd it a few times and ive liked them after a while.
your saying people cant change there opinions about music.
im sure weve all bought tracks thinking that yeah thats a good one then get it home(vinyl im talking about now)only to discover its not as good as you had thought in the shop.

Who? you that can't grasp any part of the conversation?

or the guy who basis his musical taste on the other people who listen to it?

I'm really up against it.

seannash

ntlbell wrote: »

Who? you that can't grasp any part of the conversation?

or the guy who basis his musical taste on the other people who listen to it?

I'm really up against it.

read the post i replied to,you were making a different point.in that post you were talking about chalenging songs,about growing to like something.
i responded to that particular part of your comment.
so am i following the conversation or not?
i think ill take your advice about not posting in this thread:rolleyes:

Zascar

Wow! I really ever expected all this from my post, but what the hey....

I think the whole genre debate can confuse things here, what i may call "Funky House" - others may just call it "House". I'm guessing there aren't too many people who have bad things to say about "House" - it is more or less the foundation of many of the genre's we know and love today.

Like one of the first posts says, house is supposed to be funky - it does originate from Disco after all.

Off the top of my head, here is a tune I've always loved:


Soul Central - Strings Of Life (Danny Krivit Re-Edit)

I'm certainly no expert when it comes to production etc, but i think this is a beautifully put together track. It just really uplifting and out of the many times I have heard this played out in bars & clubs, its always gets a fantastic reaction from the crowd and gets the place bouncing. That is the aim at the end of the day, isn't it?

I love tech house, minimal and techno, but there are times when i just want some easy going music, lounge music, stuff like hed kandi etc. Natural sounds and instruments, vocals and percussions. The genre has been around for a long time and no its not re writing the history books with its formula in that that, but its nice easy going likeable music. If I'm going out into town for a few drinks with a couple of chicks, its a good soundtrack to the night.

ntlbell

seannash wrote: »

read the post i replied to,you were making a different point.in that post you were talking about chalenging songs,about growing to like something.
i responded to that particular part of your comment.
so am i following the conversation or not?
i think ill take your advice about not posting in this thread:rolleyes:

The point still stands, the fact a song is challenging or not is irrelvant.

you brought up the point you didn't like something on first hearing and later you might like it. the fact you like something off the bat or not or if it's a challenging song that requires a bit of "effort" all of it is irrelevant.

At the end of the day you never choose to like or dislike, you only choose to listen or not.

I can't make it any easier for you to understand.

with the main point being you can't not like a genre because of the type of people who listen to it so let me throw in a few of my own

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

ntlbell

Zascar wrote: »

Off the top of my head, here is a tune I've always loved:


Soul Central - Strings Of Life (Danny Krivit Re-Edit)

I'll drop my scissors clippers and dance around my handbag to that no bother.

Great little track

Zascar

I think hairdressers get a bad rep! lol

ntlbell

Derrick may talking about the track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt3QvoF8eK4

seannash

ntlbell wrote: »

The point still stands, the fact a song is challenging or not is irrelvant.

you brought up the point you didn't like something on first hearing and later you might like it. the fact you like something off the bat or not or if it's a challenging song that requires a bit of "effort" all of it is irrelevant.

At the end of the day you never choose to like or dislike, you only choose to listen or not.

I can't make it any easier for you to understand.

with the main point being you can't not like a genre because of the type of people who listen to it so let me throw in a few of my own

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

now not to nit pick but i never said anything about the type of person who listens basing whether you like a genre or not.i agree with your views on that.
i made the mistake of quoting someone (i missed the post where he said about the types of people who listened to it)and i think you presumed i shared there view on basing a genre on the type of people that listen to it.
i was talking about liking music not being so black and white.i see your point
but i know for a fact i have made a concious effort to try and like certain types of music before,sometimes my opinion of it changes sometimes it doesnt but before i listened to it again i had made up my mind on it.i didnt like it.
arctic monkeys second album for example.i had listened to it and didnt really like it,one or two songs.got tickets to there gig so i went back to familiarise myself with the songs off the album that i didnt like before,just so id know what was going on at the gig.
heard those songs live and it changed my mind about them(plus the subsequent listens)
again when i was younger my brother used to play elton johns best of cd and also some disco tracks.id heard them all before and never liked them.id made my decision.but now that im older i like them,i appreciate them much more.
so i didnt like them before(even after hearing elton john for a million times)but now im older i like them,i appreciate them

seannash

ntlbell wrote: »

I'll drop my scissors clippers and dance around my handbag to that no bother.

Great little track

doesnt do it for me im afraid but its definitely one that everyone else seems to like.
ive seen it wreck floors though,people go mad for it when its dropped:D