Late Night Live on Newstalk is Kaput.

mike65

Just saw on another forum that its gone. It was rubbish IMO, a poorly presented panel discussion show which went out between 10 and midnight with a selection of guests that didnt encourage the casual listener.

Of course its demise also indicates a reigning in of more expensive formats, so whats next I wonder? I guess the sunday morning slot is safe as listenership would be quite healthy for that "Sunday paper reading" slot.

I can see stuff like Talking History and Culture Shock going though.

Mike

humberklog

I'd reckoned that Tom Dunne would've been better suited to a show at that time. Fully agree with Op that the show didn't exactly shine. No sad demise but what've they planned for that slot now? I'm usually over at the beeb by then but would welcome some Irish competition.

Badabing

There back to the 'best of Newstalk' at 10 i think, how did they get a national licence and not have a live show after 10'0 clock. They've gone downhill fast lately.

humberklog

I've been very impressed with NPR when Newstalk switched over live during the US elections. I listen to the radio through the ol' wireless so don't have digital option. I'd welcome it if newstalk switched over from 10 til...eh...Off the Ball came on!
Would it be expensive to do that though. NPR from 10 til 6a.m ish.?

rferguson

humberklog wrote: »

I'd reckoned that Tom Dunne would've been better suited to a show at that time. Fully agree with Op that the show didn't exactly shine. No sad demise but what've they planned for that slot now? I'm usually over at the beeb by then but would welcome some Irish competition.

I agree. I think the morning slot 9 -12 is the weakest of the day. Tom would be better at the 10pm slot. he annoys me first thing in the morning:mad:

Big Tone

Not surprising, maybe the JNLR figures reflected that.

One wonders how long more can credit-crunch-hit Denis O' Brien continue to fund what is essentially a monetary black hole and especially now that he is running two national stations.

BTW in 2009 there could be some station closures/mergers as the advertising revenue continues to decrease. RTE have already cut their rates by 25%...but that's another thread.

robo

As annoying as Orla and Declan could sometimes be, they had good shows and good topical guests. They dealt with current affairs reasonably well - with people on the show who had topics to deal with and an audience willing to listen.
But when you have it on at 10pm with Declan, well what politician, business person etc would want to be out at that hour. Yes it may be in their interets, but during the morning is the best time.

If they had Tom on in the evening, after Off The Ball, to discuss everything and anything - then that would be better. quirky guests and issues that are interesting rather than pressing would be good.

I see from the Newstalk website that Declan Carty is no longer a presenter.

I just think that they got this one all wrong and need to move Tom from the morning.

FlutterinBantam

Must admit I like Newstalk early on Sunday morning.

Whatever you say about Brendan O'Brien at least you have some live news as opposed to the rather dreary output from RTE up to 1100.

There is definitely a market for a discussion show around 2200 weekdays.

Vincent Browne proved that when he was on radio.

Badabing

Yep Tom Dunne is on again at 10 pm.

robo

Badabing wrote: »

Yep Tom Dunne is on again at 10 pm.

Yeh a repeat of the morning show :rolleyes:

Badabing

robo wrote: »

Yeh a repeat of the morning show :rolleyes:

Oh is he not on again at 10pm my bad;) Im afraid even with heavy editing you cant improve his bland show.

nhughes100

Good riddence, Newstalk has gone seriously downhill, the right hook is barely listenable at the moment, even the wide angle which used to be very good has started to beat the "blame the public sector" drum a bit too much.

Please let Claire Byrne be next.

Dob74

Shame, they most be in trouble. Moncief, Hook and off the ball a pretty good. I have to admit I love talking history. It would be a shame if they cancel it. But Dinny O'Brien most be feeling the pain of the slow down. His shares in independant media and aer lingus are in the toilet.

GSF

Sounds like there will be quite a few more redundancies to come in radio over the next few months. The weak stations that have just been hanging on will be the first to come under pressure.

CrowdedHouse

robo wrote: »

Yeh a repeat of the morning show :rolleyes:

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo !

I was a fairly regular listener to Late Night Live,granted it didn't set the world on fire but was better than nothing or John Creedon ..

Back to Radio 5 I suppose

Sad Professor

I'm kinda sad to hear this. It wasn't a great show but it was better than nothing. I used love Vincent Browne on Radio 1 and Late Night Live filled that gap somewhat.

Irish talk radio is so f**king brutal. Matt Cooper is the only show I can sit through anymore without cringing. I've no problem with quirky, funny stuff but christ, Newstalk needs to find a balance. 5live does a really good job of this especially Simon Mayo. Hell, even Richard Bacon can handle some heavy stuff.

Badabing

They've had trouble with 10-12 slot going back to when they were a local dublin station i remember they had a show with Breffni Clack that lasted only a few months.

robo

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo !

I was a fairly regular listener to Late Night Live,granted it didn't set the world on fire but was better than nothing or John Creedon ..

Back to Radio 5 I suppose

That is what Irish radio does to us - sends us to other stations for variety, like the government send us up the north to save our cash :rolleyes:

bbability

It lasted longer than expected. Adrian Kennedy might not be a bad option. Something tabliodish. I remember Capital in London used to do a show called Late night Confessions with Jeremy Kyle. Maybe they could do something similar?

mike65

:eek:

Mike

Aidric

Declan Carthy was the equivalent of a bad dose of Bovril.

FlutterinBantam

Badabing wrote: »

They've had trouble with 10-12 slot going back to when they were a local dublin station i remember they had a show with Breffni Clack that lasted only a few months.

Please tell me no one by the name of Breffni Clack ever presented a radio show any any station anywhere in this Universe!!


Breffni Clack:eek::eek:

Firetrap

She used to present a show on Today FM as well. Think it was called Late Night Love or something.

Back on topic - it's not looking good if Newstalk's axing shows like Late Night Live and Splanc (the Irish thing that I'd imagine nobody ever listened to). I wonder how much did they cost to produce? Repeats should only be allowed in the small hours of the morning, not at 10:00 at night ffs.

It's the thin edge of the wedge - I can see them going for Talking History next :mad:

connundrum

I wouldn't go down the route of an Adrian Kennedy type show tbh, and I detest the way in which Newstalk find it acceptable to play repeats for nearly as long as the station is live on air.

What about sticking in documentaries? I remember RTE used to have weeks were they'd play a selection of half hour documentaries which were fairly decent.

Media students would throw something together for a recession busting price if worst came to worst

Bum Boy

Where is Breffni these days?

It's a disgrace that they can get away with automation at 10pm weeknights. Weekend morning are pretty late to go live also. It's a shame.

humberklog

bbability wrote: »

Late night Confessions with Jeremy Kyle. Maybe they could do something similar?

I'm weak...my legs have given way.
I'm dizzy...is that blood from my eyes or nose?
I'm falling, gasping against the railings like Rashers Tierney.

Jeremy kyle is the modern protestant version of Fr Michael Cleary.

stepinnman

Firetrap wrote: »

Back on topic - it's not looking good if Newstalk's axing shows like Late Night Live and Splanc (the Irish thing that I'd imagine nobody ever listened to).

I think I may have been one of the few people that did listen to it! Not religiously in fairness but if I was in the car and it was on I'd leave it. My Irish isn't great but the banter was usually fairly liberally sprinkled with a few words of Bearla, especially during the chats with the guests. If nothing else the show seemed to be a pretty genuine attempt to fulfill the Irish language remit on a national station.

GSF

humberklog wrote: »

Jeremy kyle is the modern protestant version of Fr Michael Cleary.

More like the Spanish inquisition actually.;)

Dave!

Cut their national license, make them a Cork regional station or somethin.

Dub13

What kind of numbers was Late night Live pulling in...?surly there is a market for a national night time talk based program..?

Dave!

I would have thought so. Surely intelligent people, which Adrian Kennedy doesn't cater for, listen to the radio at night time too?

Dub13

Dave! wrote: »

I would have thought so. Surely intelligent people, which Adrian Kennedy doesn't cater for, listen to the radio at night time too?

I listened to Late night Live a lot and it was ok nothing special but with no direct competition I would have taught it was a dead cert to succeed.

GhostInTheRuins

It's a pity, I used to listen to both late night live and splanc from time to time. It's a bit of a disgrace that a national radio station has nothing but repeats from 10pm to 7am.

Firetrap

I wonder does Newstalk have a quota for the amount of original programming it has to broadcast? It has to be skating around the margins of it now if it's effectively reaching "Closedown" at 10:00 at night and not broadcasting anything original til the gruesome twosome on the Breakfast Show. At this rate, they'll have run out of source material for The Best of Newstalk by Christmas :rolleyes:

GhostInTheRuins

Firetrap wrote: »

The Best of Newstalk

Why do they even call it the best of newstalk? It's just the entire days schedule again except without ads or news.

rferguson

Have you noticed aswell that George Hook cant present a show by himself anymore. He has guests from all over the place. that get involved in stuff they have absolutley no idea about

spadder

I drive a lot at night, I find talk shows keep you more alert when driving. I enjoyed the show, it’s better than listening to DJ’s talking sh1te and playing self indulgent music.

I think Newstalk should give Fionn Davenport a crack at the night time slot. There is a need for an intelligent talk show, peppered with a bit of live music, like Vincent Brown used to do. I think they might underestimate the night time listenership.

LordSutch

humberklog wrote: »

I'd reckoned that Tom Dunne would've been better suited to a show at that time. Fully agree with Op that the show didn't exactly shine. No sad demise but what've they planned for that slot now? I'm usually over at the beeb by then but would welcome some Irish competition.

Yes indeed humberklog, Dunne is woeful in the morning slot & he really is just a 'Music DJ', with an annoying way of speaking & an annoying habit of laughing every second sentence, so maybe he should be moved from early am to late pm - I am also tuned to the Beeb by then . . .

Since Newstalk went off DAB (& off my presets) I dont listen to them anymore.

landmonster

rferguson wrote: »

Have you noticed aswell that George Hook cant present a show by himself anymore. He has guests from all over the place. that get involved in stuff they have absolutley no idea about

Aye. George and Pals©. I suppose it saves him from having to ever offer an opinion on anything any more.

Newstalk really has gone right down the ****ter.

spiderdan

totally agree that George Hook has gone to total ****e, not that he was ever that good! he's turned into a joke of a presenter- all these love ins he has with his guests makes a mockery of the show, time for a change IMO- Matt Cooper is sooooooooo much better, a great balanced no nonsense presenter.

Late Night was ok, had its moments. Overall Newstalk has some very good shows and presenters- Off the Ball, Talking History, Culture Shock, Eamon Keane- but has some very ****ty one's too- Hook= Joke, Moncrief=Not funny, pointless show, those Muppet women they get on to gossip!!! WTF!! Tom Dunne= Is so inoffensive and clean cut it makes me sick, they're really struggling to find topics to talk about of late!!

If O'Brien brought the two together and kept the good stuff it'd be great.

Stylo

Yes indeed humberklog, Dunne is woeful in the morning slot & he really is just a 'Music DJ', with an annoying way of speaking & an annoying habit of laughing every second sentence, so maybe he should be moved from early am to late pm - I am also tuned to the Beeb by then . . .

Since Newstalk went off DAB (& off my presets) I dont listen to them anymore.

To both Camelot and Humberklog - you're havin a giraffe .....

TD wouldn't have the pedigree to take on that late a slot - not a chance ! But whether you love or hate DC, if I were working in NT, I'd start looking elsewhere for a new job, cos it seems the station as a whole are walking the plank - NT is Donald Ducked - and for those of us wanting a new alternative to Montrose, that is NOT good news

S

Slaygal

I listened to Late Night Live most nights it was better than RTE. But I'm really not enjoying the repeat of Tom Dunne's show, I find it very dull. Fionn Davenport would be an excellent choice.

brettmirl

The Irish-language show, Splanc, on Friday night has also been dropped.

Slaygal

I emailed Newstalk yesterday and got a response from them saying that due to a the current economic downturn and a downturn in Advertising sales Newstalk has to make both operational and workforce economies. Also they were reducing the freelance budget. Due to the above issues that's why Late Night Live and Splanc were cancelled.
I got a very prompt response from the station and at the end of the email if I wanted to provide him with my phone number he would discuss the matter with me further by phon.

nhughes100

Downturn in advertising? That's great news, maybe that means there'll be less breaks. Between the news and breaks I'd guess that Newstalk get about 35 mins max per hour of actual talk. They should really drop the news on the half hour, if anything serious happens they can just interrupt normal programming.

Take Michael Graham on the right hook this evening - 5.30 till 6. if he actually talks for 12 minutes that would be it. News, sport & traffic get up to about 5.35, go for a break, George and Mick go at it for 10 minutes and shortly after 5.50 he's winding up for the next slot of news and ads. Drop the news and just keep us up to date with the traffic.

spiderdan

Stylo wrote: »

Yes indeed humberklog, Dunne is woeful in the morning slot & he really is just a 'Music DJ', with an annoying way of speaking & an annoying habit of laughing every second sentence, so maybe he should be moved from early am to late pm S

Yeah WTF is that all about, maybe he hits up a few fat spliffs before he goes on air, shut the **** up laughing at everything, its not funny its annoying!! He really made a bad choice moving over! as did Newstalk. I agree with others Fionn Davenport should defo get a promotion onto something a little more substantial

spadder

nhughes100 wrote: »

Downturn in advertising? That's great news, maybe that means there'll be less breaks. Between the news and breaks I'd guess that Newstalk get about 35 mins max per hour of actual talk. They should really drop the news on the half hour, if anything serious happens they can just interrupt normal programming.

Take Michael Graham on the right hook this evening - 5.30 till 6. if he actually talks for 12 minutes that would be it. News, sport & traffic get up to about 5.35, go for a break, George and Mick go at it for 10 minutes and shortly after 5.50 he's winding up for the next slot of news and ads. Drop the news and just keep us up to date with the traffic.

I don't mind the ads considering that they are a commercial enterprise trying to compete with the blood sucking leeches in RTE. I never listen to RTE2, rarely watch Rte TV, but yet I have to fork €160 a year to fund the lavish lifestyles of G.Ryan and the like.

Cork

spadder wrote: »

I don't mind the ads considering that they are a commercial enterprise trying to compete with the blood sucking leeches in RTE. I never listen to RTE2, rarely watch Rte TV, but yet I have to fork €160 a year to fund the lavish lifestyles of G.Ryan and the like.

I was very disapointed with Splanc going. This was a quality show.

RTE radio don't seem to do Irish Language radio despite getting €160 in licence money.

Splanc should return.

If taxpayers money is needed - this show should return.

Firetrap

Just thinking....Today FM don't do any Irish language shows, do they? Might not be in their remit.

djsupreme

Firetrap wrote: »

Just thinking....Today FM don't do any Irish language shows, do they? Might not be in their remit.

All independent stations are expected to make some kind of gesture towards the Irish language - whether it's through a specialist programme, or through some kind of infomercials. It's not something that is policed too heavily by the BCI though. Irish music and current affairs content is a bigger priority.

mike65

Could be wrong but I think Today FM used to have an Irish news 2 mins at 5 pm or rather 4.58pm