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Valid tactics?

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  • 02-12-2008 12:46am
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    Wolves
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    Hypothetical situation :-

    7 players left in a MTT. We are on the bubble. You are big chip leader holding 50% of the chips.

    You are on the BB and the shortest stack raises all in for slightly more than the BB. Everyone else passes.

    You decide to fold to prolong the bubble period as you have been accumulating plenty of chips off other average stacks who don't want to go out on the bubble.

    Is this ethical? Is this a valid tactic or is this soft playing/chip dumping?

    What about if the short stack was a friend of yours but your reasoning was the same and you wanted to do this to benefit yourself not him?

    (Wasn't sure whether this should go in the rules section or not).


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    ArmaniJeanss
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    Its perfectly valid and ethical so long as you aren't softplaying a friend.

    It may not be mathematically sound though as there are 2.5 BBs in the pot
    now and you only have to call a tiny % of a BB to potentially win that pot.

    You are bossing the table as you said but how likely are you to get another chance to get those 2.5 BBs back that you are passing up? With you having 50% of the chips in play the others will be getting desperate and you are SB next hand, then button etc, so there is a good chance one or more of them will wake up with a hand before its to you again.


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    Grafter
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    OK in theory, but only worthwhile (if at all) online.

    Live, somebody's gonna give you a kickin.


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    dannydiamond
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    Grafter wrote: »

    Live, somebody's gonna give you a kickin.

    Grafter sums it up to perfection.


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    Grafter
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    http://www.thehendonmob.com/tournament_director3/soft_play_or_must_call


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    DEEP THROAT
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    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Its perfectly valid and ethical so long as you aren't softplaying a friend.
    Grafter wrote: »
    OK in theory, but only worthwhile (if at all) online.

    Live, somebody's gonna give you a kickin.

    But if you do it online you may have a problem convincing the security department when you're asking them to unfreeze your account that you weren't softplaying a friend


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    doke
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    Grafter wrote: »
    OK in theory, but only worthwhile (if at all) online.

    Live, somebody's gonna give you a kickin.

    Yup.

    It's a standard (advanced) tactic in STTs generally known as "keeping the small stack alive" and would be equally valid in an MTT, but try explaining that to the bodybuilder with tattoos sitting to your left with the second smallest stack.


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    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,303 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Standard really


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