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Mercedes CL or S class
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04-12-2008 11:32pm#1
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Hi Tom and welcome to boards
€20k is a lot of money for a 7 or 8 year old S-class but a much better deal for a CL
I can't tell you specifically about those MB models, but I have been at the game of buying that kinda age high end V8 petrol BMWs cheaply for many years and I haven't had any serious problems. You're going to get a superb car for the money, but you are taking chances. Most people in this country spend at least as much money on their car but they own a 3 year old sh1tbox
As yourself, I do a low mileage. I'm the first to concede that when you're doing 40k per year, this is not the type of car you should consider0 -
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I understand that if something goes wrong it will cost but if its forseeable like a timing belt
You'll have to check with the experts, but I thought MB don't do cheapo timing belts (but use timing chains instead). BMWs use chains too, so that never was a worry for me and it shouldn't be for youI want somebody to tell me I am not going to regret it
You can't have your cake and eat it
99% of the people never ever even drive as superior a car as a CL. Never mind own one. You buy an old one and you will be one of the lucky few, but there are risks...0 -
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Well, I've spent 4k on my 968 so far, this year. But it has done 145k miles, in fairness, in 15 years. So, 4k is good for another 145k miles on those parts, and another 15 years.
Yes the bills are big, and they occur at a certain age/mileage, but amortise that over a period, and it's still fractional cost motoring. That's why you can pay the tax and still........smile
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Most heavy cars in this country need some serious suspension work sometime after 100k miles. Many roads here aren't good. Cars suffer and need work. I spent about a grand on a major supension overhaul at 135k miles on my BMW 7-series (would have cost at least twice that at a main dealer)
But calling a car a money pit over that issue alone seems a bit over the top tbh
Have you ever seen these suspension kits Unkel?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E38-740-750-740i-740iL-i-iL-Control-Arms-Kit-20PC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ33583QQihZ015QQitemZ250267884739QQrdZ1
They're supposed to be decent quality with some genuine Meyle parts, you could rebuild the entire front and rear suspension for about €700 and you'd be set for another 100,000km. I might look into them when my time comes.
My advice to the OP is to factor in the running/repair cost of an S-class when buying it, so if you get one for say €18,000, stick an extra €2000 aside for the first year or two. You'll more than likely not have to touch it, but like in the 7 series, you can start running into problem with components that are made from plastic, like impellers in the water pump, radiator connectors, window regulators etc. Mechanically these beasts are fine, but anything and everything can go wrong everywhere else.
Best of luck, and don't let the negative talk put you off, I didn't and it's the best choice i ever made. Think of all the C and E classes you can sail past. 0 -
purely on aesthetics and comfort,i'd take the s' class
the cl for me is too much of a ladies car.
This,
is a ladies car!?!!, methinks you are mixing it up. @ OP go for the CL and get the 500, its a superb car, just make sure you buy one thats had a few quid spent before you get it, and try for a good private than a s/h car dealer that will give you a useless 6mth engine and gearbox warranty :rolleyes:0 -
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Voodoomelon wrote: »Have you ever seen these suspension kits Unkel?
I've always let my independent source any parts needed directly from BMW. Mind the only serious parts over 5 years were the mentioned suspension parts plus one window regulator mechanism (cable had snapped)I don't think there is a huge market for a 9 year old car which costs 1600 a year to tax
This is it. When people ask you how big the size of your engine is and you tell them, you can see it in their eyes that they think you are crazy
Anyway, don't just buy. Spend a few days researching the car in detail online. Visit enthusiast forums. Ideally have an indy MB specialist who knows the model inspect the car before you buy
Good luck and let us know how you're getting on!0 -
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If you look closely at the windscreen you'll find you'd be liable for 36% OMSP before putting that on the road.This,
is a ladies car!?!!, methinks you are mixing it up. @ OP go for the CL and get the 500, its a superb car, just make sure you buy one thats had a few quid spent before you get it, and try for a good private than a s/h car dealer that will give you a useless 6mth engine and gearbox warranty :rolleyes:
For the budget plus bangernomics money, the OP would be looking at one of THESE as opposed to ^^^^, unless another cheap one comes along.
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Off topic but I can't for the life of me figure out how THIS GUY -> http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/CL-Class/420/200848190996289/advert is still in business. I called in to test drive a 01 Vectra this time last year and he asked me would I be able to get insured on it and could I come back another time. It too was overpriced, but not as much as the CL.0 -
If you look closely at the windscreen you'll find you'd be liable for 36% OMSP before putting that on the road.
For the budget plus bangernomics money, the OP would be looking at one of THESE as opposed to ^^^^, unless another cheap one comes along.
i was only using the pic as an example of the fact that it isnt a womans car 0 -
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